Sunderland v Arsenal - FA Cup 5th round

Feb 18, 2012 -- 8:14AM, tobermory wrote:

Arsenal a good bet @2.6They were 2.15 for the same match last week, which was a decent price itself.The difference is that this a Cup Tie? Well it's nonsense that they should be a much bigger price for that reason.Finishing 4th without any sort of cup run would be Wenger's worst season since 1996/97 . Worse than all the recent seasons he has been damned as a failure for.I'll be amazed if the team selected is not as strong as it can be.

It's clearly 2.6 as the market expects a weakened team, or RVP to be dropped. Both very possibly scenarios. If you're certain that you'll field your strongest team then you'd smash the current price as it will undoubtedly go in.

Remember the embarrassment of the United kids doing Arsenals full strength over last year, will Wenger risk that again?

i'm interested in trading sunderland's price in this one. if i can lay them at anything around 2.9-3 i am convinced i will get 3.35 at least in running remember sunderland are not AC Milan and lost this fixture 2-1 last week so i reckon this will be relatively straightforward.

you can't really bet this until you see the Arsenal team.  I doubt Gibbs can do two games in a few days after so long off, and with Koscielny injured too that means Vermaelen-Djourou in the centre, possibly Miquel left back, Sagna right.  I suppose the contingency is Song to go centre-back if any one of those four gets injured (with Djourou rb or Vermaelen lb as needs be), because there aren't any other options.

Ramsey looked out of his depth tactically and technically against Milan and didn't start the league game vs Sunderland, so possibly Arteta, Song and Rosicky across the middle, assuming they are fit.  Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin and Oxlade in the wide attacking roles with van Persie in the middle.   its a poor squad even when everyone is fit

howard webb would be a major worry for sunderland

he's got some of the players on last chance tackles already

a straight red today and they miss their cup final

Feb 18, 2012 -- 8:14AM, tobermory wrote:

Arsenal a good bet @2.6They were 2.15 for the same match last week, which was a decent price itself.The difference is that this a Cup Tie? Well it's nonsense that they should be a much bigger price for that reason.Finishing 4th without any sort of cup run would be Wenger's worst season since 1996/97 . Worse than all the recent seasons he has been damned as a failure for.I'll be amazed if the team selected is not as strong as it can be.

Arsenal will not win this game.    I'm 99% sure of that.

Last week sunderland came off a gruelling 120 minute mid week game,whereas Arenal were fresh.This week Arsenal come off a tough demoralising euro defeat and Sunderland are fresh and rested.Added to that a bad pitch.Advantage Sunderland.
A draw would be a great result for Arsenal imo.

Shrewsbury won :D

Sagna show card
Baardsley shown card
Sessegnon 2 or more
Mclean 2 or more
OX 1-2 scorecast

EASYYY

Look at all the empty seats.  Such a shame.

If Sunderland score first they'll win this.

Arsenal playing the same kind of football they played in Milan, moving the ball slowly, no one making any runs, no urgency to push forward.

What an awful game of football so far, it's a shame IT'S ON terrestrial because this is why people say it's boring.

you are hardly going to play it fast with 4 touch arteta in there

Seen em given

Game needs a goal to get it going

arsensl and wenger get all the stick,but oneil gets away with 10 behind the ball at home against a team walloped on wedensday night whose confidence is shot

Sunderland look happy to keep this 0-0

1-0

gtfi

GET IN

game over.

1-0 against the play, hope Sunderland don't sit back to keep this 1-0 now

Same Old story ....C'MON ARSENAL FFS !!!

Deflection of Squillaci-useless ****

him and Djourou should be shot

Sure that was going wide from Richardson and deflected back towards goal
We'll see at HT

Arsenal flinging themselves to the ground for free kicks will only increase

Feb 18, 2012 -- 5:59PM, Poppydog. wrote:

Sure that was going wide from Richardson and deflected back towards goalWe'll see at HTArsenal flinging themselves to the ground for free kicks will only increase

Richardson awarded the goal so it must've been on target before the defrection.

Walcott not starting, looks like he's fallen out with Wenger after a pitiful season.

def

deflection*

no chance  of an Arsenal victory here.

Looked to me like it was going for a goal kick/throw in. Always curling away.

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:02PM, Chunkers wrote:

no chance

Gotta be Arshavin time soon

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:02PM, Chunkers wrote:

no chance

I agree. Sunderland will win 2-0.

Arsenal were NEVER clear favourites for this. Sunderland are the form team out of all the Prem teams (yes this is FA Cup but league form can't be discounted) and Arsenal are pretty much completely piss poor. Djourou is the worst defender i've ever seen. Well done everyone who at least predicted Sunderland to go in front first.

go on Roy

Arsenal are a good bet at 6.6

Sunderland will sit back and give Arsenal chances and as bad as this Arsenal team is, you can't give RvP chances.  He will probably equalise within first 10 mins of 2nd half and then you can trade out.


Bad news for Arsenal fans is I do not think there is a chance in hell of Djourou lasting the 90, an absolute clown who will deffo give the ref a couple chances to send him off

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:11PM, MillionaireMaker wrote:

Arsenal are a good bet at 6.6 Sunderland will sit back and give Arsenal chances and as bad as this Arsenal team is, you can't give RvP chances.  He will probably equalise within first 10 mins of 2nd half and then you can trade out. Bad news for Arsenal fans is I do not think there is a chance in hell of Djourou lasting the 90, an absolute clown who will deffo give the ref a couple chances to send him off

don't throw your money away please.   They will not win.

why is everyone saying Arsenal can't win. It's not AC Milan they are playing ffs.

Why bet on Arsenal if you're going to green after a goal? You'd get better and safer money by betting "Arsenal to score next". Instant settlement and no chance of redding/greening out.

Ok go ahead and back them but you can't say that you weren't warned.

Arsenal wont win this match. as long as djourou stay on the pitch, sunderland will win.

arsenal bringing on the big guns

Here comes Rosicky

sicknote off sicknote on

Big risk using up all the subs in 52nd min with their powderpuff injuries

4-2-4

Djourou. Why o why? Heard they gave him a new contract recently.

kompany got sent off for less

arsenal are shocking, can't even string 2 passes together

Another Sunderland goal imminent.

Arsenal r poor..

Fa cup is any1s this year

RVP, ox, and wilshere the only good players in arsenals team. ramsey is ok .

Song is ok.

Rest r pooooor

Arsenal really do look clueless - too many players in their team who are not goal scorers

Song looks half the player he was 3 months ago

Is Szczesny playing today? Hows he doin?

A lot of blue shirts standing around waiting for someone else to do something....it's not happening

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:46PM, avi315 wrote:

Is Szczesny playing today? Hows he doin?

Flapihandski is in goal.

RVP is the only one trying in the arsenal team

theo gone awol

hehehe :)
Flapihandski - I love this. Almost forgot.

Oh dear

LOL.....poor Arsenal

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:36PM, sofaking wrote:

Another Sunderland goal imminent.

2-0

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! bye bye arse!

what a funny goal

LOL @ you mugs.

I'm Arsenal fan but I'm not watching this one as I've got enough of Wenger. I think he is the problem. Great person, but not during actual game.

oh welll thats that ffs

brilliant from Sessegnong

Brilliant stuff yet again from Sess.
Sensational over past 2 months

you said it sofaking and i listened! i was on sunderland next goal 3.20

Where was the defence? Was a forward trying to least off the line!

Squillachi or djorou would have been branded clowns for that.  Tyldesley gives the Ox credit for tracking back!

sik ,i keep asking people on here but get no sensible replys,besides bumph from so called experts,southampton hiking the price up,wenger seeing all his geese as swans,what actual evidence on the football piotch is there that oxo is even an average premier lg player never mind a good or great one,its unbelievable that a few nicely placed words by mainly clueless moronic pundits can set you as a legend when acyualy you,ve done absolutly nothing,he,s even miles behind walcott at this stage

Oxlade is massively overrated, but wenger couldnt risk playing arseshaving mainly because of their fickle fans.

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:53PM, berto77 wrote:

Squillachi or djorou would have been branded clowns for that.  Tyldesley gives the Ox credit for tracking back!

well the lads only learning the game

tbf he did track back well

yeah things really picked up since Arshavin been left out 

Not blaming The Ox, looks a great player, just amusing commentary.

Feb 18, 2012 -- 6:06PM, sofaking wrote:

I agree. Sunderland will win 2-0.

sofaking • February 18, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
Feb 18, 2012 -- 8:14AM


Arsenal will not win this game.    I'm 99% sure of that.

sofaking • February 18, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
I agree. Sunderland will win 2-0.

sofaking • February 18, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
If Sunderland score first they'll win this.

I gave so many warnings to Arsenal backers here but unfortunately nobody listens to me.(except meadway)

I gave so many warnings to Arsenal backers here but unfortunately nobody listens to me.(except meadway)