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Alan Curbishley favourite across the board.
Interesting others:
- Steve Bruce best priced 8/1 with William Hill
- Rafa Benitez at 14/1 with Victor but only 7/1 with William Hill?
- Alan Shearer at 14/1?
Manager markets can be fascinating when they change a lot!
Interesting others:
- Steve Bruce best priced 8/1 with William Hill
- Rafa Benitez at 14/1 with Victor but only 7/1 with William Hill?
- Alan Shearer at 14/1?
Manager markets can be fascinating when they change a lot!
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That isn't what I have said, obviously the club sounded out the options.
I also accept most of the names thronw about had some sort of contact about the job.
That is a long way from being offered it.
The club want to appoint someone with a long term plan, and no one wanted to take the job until the end of the season without wanting big money.
That has left us with no other choice.
TC knows the system and players , that leaves him as the best option available at the moment.
I also accept most of the names thronw about had some sort of contact about the job.
That is a long way from being offered it.
The club want to appoint someone with a long term plan, and no one wanted to take the job until the end of the season without wanting big money.
That has left us with no other choice.
TC knows the system and players , that leaves him as the best option available at the moment.
Sacking Mick was probably inevitable, sadly. 3 wins in 23 games says it all. Whilst he's had some success in the transfer market he's also made quite a few duff buys.
The players haven't been doing it for quite some time and the performance against WBA smacked of a team who weren't playing for the manager. 5 years ago we lost 6-0 at home to Southampton, yet that team didn't stop pushing and trying, that showed a lot of fans what a "Mick side" would be like. Against WBA there was nothing of the sort.
The main mistake was doing it without having any idea of what Plan B (or C) would be, let alone reaching plan Z!
Moxey and Morgan have been made to look pretty damn inept over this. Making offers to seemingly Bruce, Warnock, Curbishley and Smith, whilst sounding out goodness knows how manyothers, yet ending up with the previous Number 2. As said above, they have conducted this like a business interview.
I wish TC all the best, he'll need it!
The players haven't been doing it for quite some time and the performance against WBA smacked of a team who weren't playing for the manager. 5 years ago we lost 6-0 at home to Southampton, yet that team didn't stop pushing and trying, that showed a lot of fans what a "Mick side" would be like. Against WBA there was nothing of the sort.
The main mistake was doing it without having any idea of what Plan B (or C) would be, let alone reaching plan Z!
Moxey and Morgan have been made to look pretty damn inept over this. Making offers to seemingly Bruce, Warnock, Curbishley and Smith, whilst sounding out goodness knows how manyothers, yet ending up with the previous Number 2. As said above, they have conducted this like a business interview.
I wish TC all the best, he'll need it!
BruceWillis
The rules are extremely clear.
By your logic, if Connor had taken over this weekend and then been replaced, they should payout on Connor?
The rules are extremely clear.
By your logic, if Connor had taken over this weekend and then been replaced, they should payout on Connor?
Feb 24, 2012 -- 10:56AM, jason-dodd wrote:
I tend to agree, though would be interesting to see what happens if they get smashed twice and then beat at home to Blackburn!
I agree. Les Reed managed 7 games at Charlton, Sammy Lee not many more at Bolton. Not a given he will last 10.
brngtwt
No - the point is that Wolves have been around the houses trying to find a Manager and spoken/approached (whatever) the world and his wife, clearly with no intention of offering it to Connor.
Now, they have given it to him.
Quite blatently, that is because they can't find anyone else. Want evidence? Try the quote at the start of the process, saying 'this job is not for a novice'.
No - the point is that Wolves have been around the houses trying to find a Manager and spoken/approached (whatever) the world and his wife, clearly with no intention of offering it to Connor.
Now, they have given it to him.
Quite blatently, that is because they can't find anyone else. Want evidence? Try the quote at the start of the process, saying 'this job is not for a novice'.
I'm half expecting Steve Bruce to be odds on by midnight
Jason I think we have our wires crossed a bit here.
I agree TC was not considered at the outset.
What puzzles me is why the board were so insistent on only giving the job until the end of the season, no worthwhile manager is going to risk that unless they are paid a lump.
I agree TC was not considered at the outset.
What puzzles me is why the board were so insistent on only giving the job until the end of the season, no worthwhile manager is going to risk that unless they are paid a lump.
this is all about results,if he keeps wolves in touching distance of safety he will make the end of the season,if not wolves may want to try to get another manager in before the pre season merry go round of managers
brngtwt
Apologies if that's the case... I wasn't sure what you were disagreeing with me about earlier?
Apologies if that's the case... I wasn't sure what you were disagreeing with me about earlier?
This all reminds me of when Paul Jewell left Bradford and Chris Hutchings was promoted to manager on the basis of him being an excellent assistant and coach. We then got resoundingly dícked on for the remainder of the season and plummetted through the divisions.
At least Wolves seem financially secure and so won't go into administration. Twice.
Some amusing quotes from Morgan.
Having spoken to a number of people we have drawn that process to a close and myself and the board are unanimous that Terry is the right man to lead the club for the remainder of the season.
Does this mean that the intention was always to appoint someone until the end of the season? In which case it's not hard to see why so many turned their nose up at it. Or is it a case of trying to save face and make out that this was the plan all along?
At least Wolves seem financially secure and so won't go into administration. Twice.
Some amusing quotes from Morgan.
Having spoken to a number of people we have drawn that process to a close and myself and the board are unanimous that Terry is the right man to lead the club for the remainder of the season.
Does this mean that the intention was always to appoint someone until the end of the season? In which case it's not hard to see why so many turned their nose up at it. Or is it a case of trying to save face and make out that this was the plan all along?
They can't get anyone to take over now,if they lose the next 3 games who the **** gonna take it then.I think Conner will be kept till end of the season come what may.
Agreed Luckyman..............the only scenario in which Connor would go is if the results are dreadful. But if the results are dreadful and relegation looks ever more certain, there is not a snowball in hell's chance of them hiring anyone even vaguely sensible. This is a done deal.
I am staggered its come to this. The two muppets kept McCarthy on too long, should have gone before the transfer wiondow, so that the new guy has a chance to amend the squad, but that would have cost money. Now they get rid and dont have any kind of coherent plan to replace him.
They run the club as a business, and what happens on the field is secondary to that. I believe Moxey had a huge bonus last time we got relegated, as the club had done ok financially. This tells you all you need to know about their motivation. McCarthy had to go not because we lost to WBA, but because the early bird season ticket sales had opened, and they thought with him in, sales would be low.
I am going to get behind Connor, because apparently he`s a decent guy, and I suspect he has been coerced into this. Wolves are my team and that will never change, lets hope he can get the players to respond, because they havent exactly covered themselves in glory either.
They run the club as a business, and what happens on the field is secondary to that. I believe Moxey had a huge bonus last time we got relegated, as the club had done ok financially. This tells you all you need to know about their motivation. McCarthy had to go not because we lost to WBA, but because the early bird season ticket sales had opened, and they thought with him in, sales would be low.
I am going to get behind Connor, because apparently he`s a decent guy, and I suspect he has been coerced into this. Wolves are my team and that will never change, lets hope he can get the players to respond, because they havent exactly covered themselves in glory either.
Agree luckyman, if noone will take it now who is going to take it with a worse league position and less games to change it?
Unless a manager who has not been considered already becomes available it is TC until the end of the season.
Unless a manager who has not been considered already becomes available it is TC until the end of the season.
if wolves are pretty much down there would be less pressure on a new manager he would effectively be planning for the championship and managers at other clubs will start looking at their futures with relegation and promotion looking sorted
That was unbelievable 1.5, was obvious he would trade lower again.I thought 1.37 was good!
people greening out,dont want their money tied up for a few months
I reckon there's only a 1 in 10 chance of him not doing the 10 games for the reasons others have suggested above. Will be interesting to see what happens to the price after Wolves next couple of games.
Although I think McCarthy should be added to the market just in case!!!
Although I think McCarthy should be added to the market just in case!!!
the whole thing has been abit of a shambles really, at best they are a yoyo club, they should have just kept mcarthy and realised that is as good as they are and that he has done them a decent job
TC been at the club 12 years right?someone said
Surely they won't sack him for 10 games as manager even if he does lose every game, no manager is going to come in for 3-5 games at the end of the season if he gets the boot before we get paid after 10 games, with that said...everyone should be piling in to Connor at these prices
Surely they won't sack him for 10 games as manager even if he does lose every game, no manager is going to come in for 3-5 games at the end of the season if he gets the boot before we get paid after 10 games, with that said...everyone should be piling in to Connor at these prices
Other mangers have been sacked mid season after only a few games in charge,when there is time to make a difference.But have any been sacked when appointed with just 13 games to go!
he's managed to last longer than leroy rosenior did at torquay already
Its not over yet. Could walk out ?? Could be approached by someone else ?? Market clearly doesn't know...drifting all the time. And before anyone thinks no other person would want the job...plenty of money in it and doubtless plenty of apps dropped through the letter box. We've seen all sorts over the last few years
I think this market and thread deserves another incident - would be truly hilarious if it all started up again.
WHAT A JOKE WWFC ARE...
NO ONE WANTED THE JOB.....
SO THEY GAVE IT TO THE COACH WHO HAS COACHED THEM IN TO THE MESS THEY ARE IN!
IS MR MORGAN GOING TO NIP IN TO THE CHANGING ROOM TO GIVE THE TEAM TALK.....
BETTER STILL...IS VICE PRESIDENT ROBERT PLANT going to blast them with the WWFC theme tune...
DAZED AND CONFUSED!
UTTER COMPLETE JOKE....
PS...the reason they cant commit beyond the end of the season will be PRETTY OBVIOUS when Chairman Morgan reveals HUGE LOSSES for his Building Companies!
NO ONE WANTED THE JOB.....
SO THEY GAVE IT TO THE COACH WHO HAS COACHED THEM IN TO THE MESS THEY ARE IN!
IS MR MORGAN GOING TO NIP IN TO THE CHANGING ROOM TO GIVE THE TEAM TALK.....
BETTER STILL...IS VICE PRESIDENT ROBERT PLANT going to blast them with the WWFC theme tune...
DAZED AND CONFUSED!
UTTER COMPLETE JOKE....
PS...the reason they cant commit beyond the end of the season will be PRETTY OBVIOUS when Chairman Morgan reveals HUGE LOSSES for his Building Companies!
I tend to agree Bruce. Wolves won't sack TC. At worst they'll be continuing the hunt for an experienced manager to take the reins for sub 13 games just in case. Although given the experiences of the last 2 weeks I doubt they are!!!
Pounf - the last big Moxey bonus was after he sold Camara for a mass profit and the big bucks he got for his loan move to Celtic rather than for relegation. Though it was the relegation that saw the rat move on I suppose!!
Pounf - the last big Moxey bonus was after he sold Camara for a mass profit and the big bucks he got for his loan move to Celtic rather than for relegation. Though it was the relegation that saw the rat move on I suppose!!
hope he drops roger johnson first game in charge
send a message through the team performances so far not good enough
send a message through the team performances so far not good enough
they'd be a complete laughing stock, the board would all be gone before they got anyone in the seat
worcesterwilly you must of heard the same rumours as me about the building business?
morgan cant produce any cash for wolves because its all tied propping that business up
morgan cant produce any cash for wolves because its all tied propping that business up
A lot depends on fan reaction
If results don't improve and they turn on the board then anything could happen
If results don't improve and they turn on the board then anything could happen
Worcesterwilly:
BETTER STILL...IS VICE PRESIDENT ROBERT PLANT going to blast them with the WWFC theme tune...
DAZED AND CONFUSED!
That's very funny, especially for a blue nose
As for the comments about these huge losses his businesses are about to announce, that's not the case:
Redrow welcomed back Steve Morgan, its founder, in 2009 to restore the housebuilder’s focus on high-margin family homes. Mr Morgan has delivered an 80 per cent surge in pre-tax profits, led by strong sales of higher priced two-to-four bedroom homes that lifted operating margins by 190 basis points to 7.5 per cent.
Profits of £15mil are not to be sniffed at, especially in these tough times for the building industry.
What I would say is that I think Morgan is focussed on THAT business rather than the football club. The stopping of Phase 2 of the ground redevelopment was to put money into the Academy redevelopment. A part of that £50mil scheme (only £6mil or so from Wolves) is the development of 55 executive homes by... Redrow Homes!
BETTER STILL...IS VICE PRESIDENT ROBERT PLANT going to blast them with the WWFC theme tune...
DAZED AND CONFUSED!
That's very funny, especially for a blue nose
As for the comments about these huge losses his businesses are about to announce, that's not the case:
Redrow welcomed back Steve Morgan, its founder, in 2009 to restore the housebuilder’s focus on high-margin family homes. Mr Morgan has delivered an 80 per cent surge in pre-tax profits, led by strong sales of higher priced two-to-four bedroom homes that lifted operating margins by 190 basis points to 7.5 per cent.
Profits of £15mil are not to be sniffed at, especially in these tough times for the building industry.
What I would say is that I think Morgan is focussed on THAT business rather than the football club. The stopping of Phase 2 of the ground redevelopment was to put money into the Academy redevelopment. A part of that £50mil scheme (only £6mil or so from Wolves) is the development of 55 executive homes by... Redrow Homes!
I just ordered 30,000 clipboards from China for the fans to wave when Terry keeps us up 
Ye of little faith.(Terry can buy them with his payoff).
Let's all laugh at Wolves. They sack their best manager for the last 30 years and replace him with his assistant. Relegation inevitable.
Because he has to be in charge for 10 games. Also this market wont get settled till end of April now if he wins so as said early likely that some people have layed him off to ditch red
What a ride. Whole thing starts with this isn't a job for a novice and this is how it ends. Definitely thinking twice before I involve myself in one of these manager markets again.
Congrats to those who got on Connor.
Congrats to those who got on Connor.
This is a decisive step which creates certainty. The players are fully behind it," Wolves owner Steve Morgan said.
"Since we made the difficult decision to part company with Mick, we have been through a diligent process of assessing potential candidates.
"Having spoken to a number of people we have drawn that process to a close and myself and the board are unanimous that Terry is the right man to lead the club for the remainder of the season.
..decisive...
..diligent...you can say that again...bordering on the obsessive compulsive...
super nuts.
"Since we made the difficult decision to part company with Mick, we have been through a diligent process of assessing potential candidates.
"Having spoken to a number of people we have drawn that process to a close and myself and the board are unanimous that Terry is the right man to lead the club for the remainder of the season.
..decisive...
..diligent...you can say that again...bordering on the obsessive compulsive...
super nuts.
More surprising than the odds that Connor remains at, is surely the fact that Bruce is still being backed at around 15s?
Odds saying its roughly a 80% change he lasts 10 games, pretty fair. As mentioned earlier sure people greening out as well. If Wolves look totally lost in the next 2-3 matches I'm sure they'll be an upheaval to react.
..i think thats that...whatever happens.
they are gonna look even more ridiculous if they get rid of him before the end of the season in light of their statement...
they are gonna look even more ridiculous if they get rid of him before the end of the season in light of their statement...
If I was greening out, I'd want better value than that!
Even if he fails - is Bruce really the most likely to step in, given all that has happened?
Even if he fails - is Bruce really the most likely to step in, given all that has happened?
Absolutely no way on earth they could appoint Bruce having overlooked him. The board would make themselves look foolish.
The only circumstances in which a Connor back could lose is if all three of things happen:
a) the results are really bad.
b) they still had a chance of staying up (whether there are 10 or 4 games left).
c) someone becomes available who could step in (possibly someone they've approached but it wasn't right for them).
It is very unlikely but not impossible for an 'experienced' man to come in alongside Connor if it looks like he need help as perhaps a Venables type figure as a 'football management consultant'. It would then depend on the job description ie who is picking the team as to whether the market was settled.
All unlikely but not unthinkable.
The only circumstances in which a Connor back could lose is if all three of things happen:
a) the results are really bad.
b) they still had a chance of staying up (whether there are 10 or 4 games left).
c) someone becomes available who could step in (possibly someone they've approached but it wasn't right for them).
It is very unlikely but not impossible for an 'experienced' man to come in alongside Connor if it looks like he need help as perhaps a Venables type figure as a 'football management consultant'. It would then depend on the job description ie who is picking the team as to whether the market was settled.
All unlikely but not unthinkable.
tragic ending to this sorry affair
what a mug club we are
anyway gl clipboard, maybe he will turn out to be great
what a mug club we are
anyway gl clipboard, maybe he will turn out to be great
What an awful decision. They would have been better off with McCarthy. Oh well you never know but I sense Championship next season
one of the biggest embarrassment appointing a manager in premier league history
didn't have anyone lined up and nobody fckn wants it the job for 13 games.
so give it to TC cos otherwise it will be managerless. great appointment, after already stating this was not a job for a 'novice', give it to rookie manager TC. will he do any better then MM, do me a favour.
didn't have anyone lined up and nobody fckn wants it the job for 13 games.
so give it to TC cos otherwise it will be managerless. great appointment, after already stating this was not a job for a 'novice', give it to rookie manager TC. will he do any better then MM, do me a favour.
am I right in saying that this guy is/was part of the old management team under the old manager??
If so surely it was a fail and therefore you are just promoting one of the failed??!!
If so surely it was a fail and therefore you are just promoting one of the failed??!!
jason-dodd 21 Feb 12 19:51
I find it strange that Bruce has been favourite for the majority of a week, yet he has no chance whatsoever, and hasn't had any from the start?
He might not get it of course, but I don't buy it.
Mighty Whites 2008 21 Feb 12 19:53
backed by mugs putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 for peanuts
jason-dodd 21 Feb 12 19:54
Nah sorry, I don't buy that.
You can state that it's a fact as much as you like, but with no other info, it's just a guy on a forum making bullish statements... not a rare thing around here.
Bruce decent odds now Jason if you fancy tucking in.
I find it strange that Bruce has been favourite for the majority of a week, yet he has no chance whatsoever, and hasn't had any from the start?
He might not get it of course, but I don't buy it.
Mighty Whites 2008 21 Feb 12 19:53
backed by mugs putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 for peanuts
jason-dodd 21 Feb 12 19:54
Nah sorry, I don't buy that.
You can state that it's a fact as much as you like, but with no other info, it's just a guy on a forum making bullish statements... not a rare thing around here.
Bruce decent odds now Jason if you fancy tucking in.
Mighty Whites
In your desperation to gloat, you forgot the fact that you don't have anything to gloat about.
Funny that you chose to trawl back through the thread though.
In your desperation to gloat, you forgot the fact that you don't have anything to gloat about.
Funny that you chose to trawl back through the thread though.
Everybody KEPT LAYING Steve KEAN -
- following his '10 Match Conditional' appointment -
Saying - "He will never last 10 games."
- following his '10 Match Conditional' appointment -
Saying - "He will never last 10 games."
no brainer for me..back wolves to be relegated at 1.65. tc 1.36 to be next manager is no value in comparison. if wolves lose three out of next four they might sack him or stick with him but either way over thirteen games we will go down regardless..
Connor in to 1.19. Seems like a safe bet after Saturday.
yep god start but only 1 game
that said even if loses next 4 games 3-0 that would leave only 8 games left in season
going to be tough to justify board switching to someone else or getting someone else
that said even if loses next 4 games 3-0 that would leave only 8 games left in season
going to be tough to justify board switching to someone else or getting someone else
wolves have got bolton and blackburn in the next couple of weeks if they lose those 1.2 for him to keep the job wont look good.
TC will be in the job still in 9 games time
he's there till the summer
im for one just glad i got paid today not friday as would laid him to **** before the appt
expecting the worse now for us but saturday given me a little smidgen of hope
few big weeks for us, crunch time is on
he's there till the summer
im for one just glad i got paid today not friday as would laid him to **** before the appt
expecting the worse now for us but saturday given me a little smidgen of hope
few big weeks for us, crunch time is on
terry connor will be manager next season weather wolves stay up or not, there is no money to be spent on players until next season and the ammount of money available would not be great therefore leaving wolves in another potential relagation fight should they stay up this season. and the building business profits are rumoured to be way off the mark.
this all coming from the same source who told me to back connor and keane when juicy prices
this all coming from the same source who told me to back connor and keane when juicy prices
Connor out to 1.62 (was higher earlier this morning). Will he last the 10 games? Man Utd up next. 
As incredible as it seems Connor will probably stick around. By the looks of it they want a younger manager (Poyet? or whoever) to come in fresh at the end of the season. Nobody will likely come in now to attempt to save them for this season. Bruce appears so desperate though if they can muster up the courage to drop Connor he might even take the job till the end of season.
They should really just seek out an older head who's desperate to get back into the game and offer him the chance to steer them clear of safety. As is the team appears destined for relegation.
They should really just seek out an older head who's desperate to get back into the game and offer him the chance to steer them clear of safety. As is the team appears destined for relegation.
Connor being layed at a decent pace, Bruce In? Or Poyet poached?
Still got my fingers crossed for Glenn Roeder.
Still got my fingers crossed for Glenn Roeder.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, you can now get 1.34 on Connor to last another 5 games.
Not bad?
Probably not enough in the market to make it particularly worth anyone's while, but I would be surprised to see anyone come in now, with 8 games remaining?
Not bad?
Probably not enough in the market to make it particularly worth anyone's while, but I would be surprised to see anyone come in now, with 8 games remaining?
Almost pay day, betfair making a lot of interest of my winnings alone
Connor stumbling to the finish line, lol. One of the more comical/sad manager markets I've witnessed.
Thankfully the large amount of time and money I wasted in this market has been recouped by going against Wolves every game since the farce began.
Thankfully the large amount of time and money I wasted in this market has been recouped by going against Wolves every game since the farce began.
If I was a Connor backer I`d start to sweat a little. Curbishley on Sunday opened the door to the job again, the problem a few weeks ago was that it was for only 13 games then. Now that relegation is certain, he might as well move in now, and assess the players with a few games left. Before the Championship campaign.
Im a Walter S backer at 60, layer at 2.48, mega green all round
Front of the line at the pay out desk
Betfair made 1000's in interest since
Front of the line at the pay out desk
Betfair made 1000's in interest since
Not sure if it's been mentioned but why don't Wolves bring back Mick McCarthy for the promotion push and then sack him when he brings them back to the Premier League?
How many games has he got left to hang on?
This has been one of the biggest c0ck ups in recent times - the Wolves board have completely ruined their own club.
This has been one of the biggest c0ck ups in recent times - the Wolves board have completely ruined their own club.
were down with or without a manager,get rid of that daft **** conner and getg someone who knows what there doin!!!
Some people think it is free money. Some have not read the rules.
Are you saying the market isn't settled if Connor takes charge on Sunday?
Its pay day on sunday if terry connor takes change and the match finishes.
I'm green on all managers shirley, just wondering when the dollars are flowing in
Mighty Whites has got it right, yet again. The punt atm is will #wolves announce a new permanent manager before Sunday. Logic has to say that 1.02 is value but you never know.
Apr 20, 2012 -- 6:04PM, Bruce Willis wrote:
I'm green on all managers shirley, just wondering when the dollars are flowing in
To steal it all at 1.01? I dunno.
I`m a Wolves season ticket holder, and I cant see Laurel and Hardy doing anything until its official we`re down. Which could easily be Sunday evening, I would be really shocked if Connor wasnt the manager for the match tomorrow.
pay day. Laying Steve Bruce every time he touched evens when it was clear the fans/club didn't want him has proved rather fruitful.
Pep Guardiola spotted looking at flats in Dudley.........
How about Steve Morgan to step down, he is at the root cause of all this. How many wrong decisions can one man make in a little over 12 months?!!
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