Your England XI

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----------------------Hart
Richards-------???----------???---------Cole

???---------Gerrard------Parker------???

----------Rooney-------Bent


Who kows

carrick

If I were coach, England would have the best chance of the Euros. I thoroughly believe that.

How is Carrick NOT in the team?

is that England or Man U XI?

how long is it until de gea qualifies to play for engerland ???

Well Man United are a lot better than England, and Sir Alex and I think Carrick is a brilliant midfielder, maybe you lot know better though So what is your team, my team is the best so far... you're too frightened to post your own but happy to mock others as you don't understand football... my team would have an amazing chance in the Euros.

De Gea is capable of amazing world class saves, but I'd rather have Hart even if he were eligible, which he isn't, he's Spanish. Feck me, some people not on the ball.

de gea would be great as an engerlish goalie as he wouldnt have to face any crosses or long balls unless we faced scotland wales or ireland

Hart

Richards   Smalling   Jones    Cole

                Parker

           Wilshere    Gerrard


     Sturridge                Young

                 Rooney


Subs: Welbeck, Oxlaide Chamberlain, Lennon, Carroll, Cahill, Walker, Johnson



*** 1st draft ***

I am also a big believer in picking on form, so that would inevitably contribute to some changes.

Hart

Richards Dawson King (if fit) Cole

           Parker

      Gerrard   Wilshire

Lennon                 Oxlaide Chamberlain

           Rooney

I'd take King, but he wouldn't be able to play every game.

Dawson?

No Carrick Jones or Wellbeck in others, bizarre.

I don't think Dawson's up to it JD. Too slow following a couple of bad injuries (one in an england shirt btw)

Hart

Richards  Lescott  Jones  Baines

          Wiltshere   Parker (c)

Oxade Cha.    Gerrard        Adam Johnson

            Rooney
                 
                    Bent

how can people pick rio?

hes not even the best player in his family

Hart Rooney the two solid picks so far. Though I play Wayne in a deeper role as to make a more robust and compact midfield with Danny up top with his blazing pace and increasing ability to take on the slow European defences. Suprised at few teams here.

Feb 8, 2012 -- 11:52AM, 2hi4me2cu wrote:

HartRichards  Lescott  Jones  Baines          Wiltshere   Parker (c)Oxade Cha.    Gerrard        Adam Johnson            Rooney                                      Bent

2nd best so far.

My team would be similar to Jason's, and I agree that it could change due to form:

------------hart
richards--jones--lescott--baines
-------parker---milner
-----------wilshere
---sturridge---rooney---young

second XI:

----------stockdale (struggling here)
walker---smalling--king*---cole
---------cleverly---barry
------------lampard
----a.johnson--wellbeck---lennon

3rd keeper: Carson. (I have no clue of our keepers beyond Hart).

*King would make the first XI if his fitness was good. Cole I'd have as 2nd choice LB as his form this season hasn't been the best, but he is still in the top 2 English LB's.

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Hart

Richards Smalling Jones Cole

Cleverley

Rooney Wilshere

Johnson Chamberlain

Wellbeck

I've had a change of heart with Carrick, I think someone a bit more nimble is needed for the big teams, and Rio as TMO said is probably too much of a liability. I think this team is the best so far. I've dropped Young and Lennon too for Johnson and Chamberlain who both are potentially more useful.

Feb 8, 2012 -- 11:52AM, 2hi4me2cu wrote:

HartRichards  Lescott  Jones  Baines          Wiltshere   Parker (c)Oxade Cha.    Gerrard        Adam Johnson            Rooney                                      Bent

Great team that.  Count me in.

Just hope the ref doesn't notice we've got 12. 

That was my point RF!

Mine's the best so far. Youth is clearly the only way to go and this team I picked above, 2 posts ago, is best by a margin. Can anyone think of improving it? Suggestions so far have been poor but for TMOs mention of Rio.

Hart

Richards Smalling Jones Cole

Cleverley

Rooney Wilshere

Johnson Chamberlain

Wellbeck

POTENTIAL WINNERS.

------------------Hart-----------------
Johnson----Ferdinand----King-------Cole
-------------Parker---Wilshere---------
----Sturridge----Gerrard----Johnson----
------------------Rooney---------------

2nd XI

-----------------Robinson---------------
Richards----Jagielka---Jones------Baines
-------------Milner---Carrick-----------
Ox-Chamberlain----Young-------Lennon----
------------------Carroll---------------

Obviously KIng cant play every game so I'd replace him with Phil Jones.

no one gone for walcott

Good teams CCM - though I'd probably put Young where Johnson is on your first XI, and have Johnson covering Sturridge as the left-footer on the right.

Did Robbo retire from England?

Hart.
Walker, King, Terry, Cole.
Gerrard, Parker, Lampard Barry
Rooney, Zamora/Crouch

Gerrard, Parker, Lampard Barry

A real pacey midfield, ready to take the game to the opposition

Feb 8, 2012 -- 12:06PM, jason-dodd wrote:

Gerrard, Parker, Lampard BarryA real pacey midfield, ready to take the game to the opposition

Embarrassed for some of these suggestions too bud. Like they've not watched England or don't get football.

Feb 8, 2012 -- 12:04PM, T.M.O wrote:

no one gone for walcott

Walcott wouldn't make my squad. I'd sooner take Shearer.

Hart

Richards Smalling Jones Cole

Cleverley

Rooney Wilshere

Johnson Chamberlain

Wellbeck

BEST SO FAR. WELL DONE RMB.

No Becks fans left

GREEN
P. NEVILLE.....TERRY.....A. FERDINAND.....WARNOCK
HENDERSON.....LAMPARD.....BARTON.....DOWNING
HESKEY.....CARROLL


CAPELLO PICK THAT TEAM AND ENGAND ARE CERTS.

Johnson, Young, Lennon, possibly Oxlaide Chamberlain, Sturridge...

Walcott shouldn't be on the plane imo.

I thought both wingers could play on either flank the dza.... keep swapping throughout the game! I'd have had Young in based on early season form, but want to see him back fit. That was my team for tomorrow if I had to pick it!

You might be right about Robinson, I was really struggling for a second goalie. Ruddy was my next option!

Cleverly is a great shout, but hes been injured most of the season and would need games under his belt for match fitness.

No ones picked Walcott as he is sh*t, I think he openly admits this to himself aswell.

Should have stuck to racing formula one cars, and Im a gooner lol

Feb 8, 2012 -- 12:11PM, jason-dodd wrote:

Johnson, Young, Lennon, possibly Oxlaide Chamberlain, Sturridge...Walcott shouldn't be on the plane imo.

Well said. Couldn't agree more. Jury still out on Young. I much prefer the look of Oxo, he is potentially exactly what we need down the left. Theo is beyond a joke.

Theo Lampard Downing, shouldn't be anywhere near an England shirt. We need technically gifted visionary players in the centre of the park. Wayne Jack and Tom for me. If you've not got Wayne I can see the reasons for wanting Steve to replace and then swap Tom with Scott to sure things up a bit more physically.

Yeh, Robbo retired. Shame - I think he's still very good.

I'd forgotten about Cleverly as well... great shout.

Get the kids in and let them enjoy it - the media need to get off their backs as well.

The Euro's is no place for experimenting with Rooney in CM

Im surprised people have yet to notice just how good Justin Walker is. Wilshere has barely played this season so ignoring him as impossible to gauge form and fitness.
Hart
Walker Ferdinand Jones Cole
Lennon Milner Parker Johnson
Rooney Sturridge

Dropped there plenty of times for United and done brilliantly. Just the man to smash Xavi and Iniesta about as well. But I would have him behind Danny in a 4-4-2 system versus lesser teams for sure.

I've noticed Walker, but I think Mancini has had longer with Richards, and that shows in their performances.

If Downing goes, it wil be a joke. He has been nothing short of abysmal all season.

Put it this way - playing someone in a position they hardly ever play, and are hardly likely to play in the forseeable future, is not sensible.

Do what Arry' does; pick good players and play them in their best positions.

Who is Justin Walker? I've never even heard of him, never mind noticed him.

Richards is a superior player to Wlaker at RB imo. Baffling how he's not featured in recent squads.

You raise very fair points Jason. Problem is my system for the big teams would have to change to have Wayne in up top as need Danny up top. Can I drop Wayne for Spain and put in Parker instead, it's definitely possible. Media wouldn't like it mind you!

I agree RF. Close call between the much maligned Glen Johnson and Micah Richards for me. Kyle Walker is definitely going the right way though and could be an England RB in the future.

Welbeck isnt good enough yet imo.

Hart

Richards Smalling Jones Cole

Cleverley

Rooney/Parker Wilshere

Johnson Chamberlain

Wellbeck

Slot to 4-4-2 vs lesser teams moving Rooney behind Danny.

The Richards thing just shows how Managers either 'fancy' a player or they don't.

I went to see a game early in Capello's reign (I think!) and Richards played right back - the crowd loved him when he bombed forward, but he was pretty shocking defensively.

I wasn't surprised when Capello never picked him again.

I think he's changed now, and Mancini has nutured him into an excellent defender - but I also think Capello still has the feelings that he just hasn't got the technique.

Danny coming on leaps and bounds and time and time again we've needed pace up top and lacked it. It's not an ideal situation for us, but England just aren't blessed with anyone outstanding. Wayne is too good and out of position up top on his own and nowhere near as fast as Danny. I think he's a better bet than Jermaine, Darren etc.

Jermain

CCM - I think RMB has been looking for a bite on the Welbeck thing for ages...

A bite? Sir Alex thinks Danny up top is a good thing, but perhaps you know better than him or I. Jealous of Sir Alex and the fact I make **** loads on here perhaps? If so stop posting on my threads as your juvenile behaviour is pathetic and frankly annoying.

I agree with RF that Richards is better than Walker right now (so that's 2 Spurs fans saying that). Not much between Walker and Johnson imo, I think Johnson is better technically and Walker is a better athlete. Richards is like the best of both.

Yes, a bite.

I don't think Ferguson would pick Welbeck as a lone striker for any crucial game unless he had to, so I also don't expect the National Manager to do so...

I like Wellbeck -- I'd take him but he wouldn't be a starter for me.

Every Premiership game is crucial and Sir Alex has deemed it suitable to play Wellbeck up top on his own and drop Wayne into midfield several times. I sense you're on the wind up so fair enough, I got you yesterday, you got me today. Let's talk England though yeah.

Nice try, RMB.

Guess I just have to ignore, I don't do blocking. GL with bets.

talking of johnson (glen)
kelly is better than he defensively and also is a much better crosser.

you only want attacking fullbacks if your centre backs are mobile enough and good enough defensively ....which is where the argument for walker and johnson necomes a serious issue for me.

kelly is much better ballanced between defence and attack.
he wont OVER commit unless there will be an end product.

johnson and walker are more attack minded which is good as an option but not for costant starting imo

the attack is in transition imo.

walcott is garbage and we have some young players coming through which ultimatley will cost us of any chance which was slim anyway.

you see the main pronlem we have in this country is our approach to the game.

we can only play the English way which is constantly falling behind the approach the continentals use.
art of that is donw to composure and technical ability on the ball.

motivation wont counter ballance that.
only tactics will.

If everyone was fully fit(lol), Eng Squad for the Euros

J Hart

G Johnson
G Cahill
J Terry
A Cole

S Parker
J Wilshere
S Gerrard (c)

A Young
D Sturridge
W Rooney

Subs: Stockdale, C Smalling, P Jones, K Walker, M Richards, L Baines, F Lampard, T Cleverly, A Chamberlain, T Walcott, A Johnson, D Welbeck

Edit** Lampard OUT Milner IN

Carrick my god hes bad

Carrick is a good passer from deep, useful in a 3man midfield.

RMB's team wouldn't even get out of the group! Carrick, Rio and Welbeck!! This is Euro 2012, not Wigan at home.


Hart, Richards, Terry, King, Cole, Parker, Wilshere, Gerrard, Young, Sturridge, Rooney.

Job done.

wigan at home ur rite tho

Hart

Walker  Richards  Smalling  Cole

Parker

Gerrard  Cleverley

Sturridge   Rooney

Wellbeck

Haven't read some of the other posts, so sorry if this duplicates someone else's.

I would quite like to see us setup like the Germans did at the last world cup and have two holding midfielders so our full backs can get forward, we have potentially two great full backs going forward.

GK Hart

RB Walker
LB A.Cole
CB P.Jones
CB G Cahill
CM S.Parker
CM J.Wilshire
Free role W.Rooney
RWF Sturridge
CF Zamora
LWF Oxo Chamberlin

Subs - Terry, Stockdale, Defoe, Walcott, Barry, Richards, A Young, A Carroll, S Gerrard, Ruddy, Smalling, Wellbeck.

Why would you pick Terry?

No one can claim that with him, or anyone else from our ageing squad, in our team we have looked like potential winners, so what benefit will we gain?

Get him out and start planning for 2012, whether you think Terry is any good or not (I think he's not a great deal better than the Lescotts, Cahills and Dawsons of this world, but that's another debate).

the attacking fullback scenario is more dependant on two mobile centre backs.

we found this out the other season.

wilshere isnt a holding player anyways and tracking back would be a problem as parker would get over worked if the ball got moved about like the foreigners tend to do better than us.

-------------------Hart

--Richards---Terry---Cahill---Cole

------------Parker---Milner

-----Lennon---Gerrard---Chamberlain

---------------Rooney


very hard that, im a chelsea fan and i wouldnt go near Sturridge hes such a selfish player and doesnt know how to pass, in my opinion he's gotta take some of the blame for Torres' failure to score.
Basically i found it easier to find players i didnt want in the team rather than those out of it. We are severly lacking in quality in most area's iv ended up picking the players i thought were the least bad! rather than anyone i actually wanted to put in the team. There is not one world class english defender in the world at the moment in my opinion. shocking as it is. terry, ferdinand and ashley all on the decline, midfield is the same with gerrard and lamps, and theres not a lot coming behind. strikers we lack i was tempted to go Bent but really hes never even played Cl regularly. i give up this is the best i can do

Jason - RMB asked us to select our best team for 2012 not for 2014 and beyond.

Despite the bloke being a complete c*nt, i still believe Terry is one of our 2 best centre backs.

Yes, and 2012 is related to 2014.

Do you think we'll win the tournament with that team?

i agree re terry

problem is who do you pair with him???

lescot cant hold a line
cahill is grossly overated and also to similar in his approach to terry....ie.he is more of a meeting the ball centre back rather than a reader.
jagielka is more ballanced but is he really good enough.

smalling is ok but probbably a bit too inexperienced at this level
same with jones
dawson too similar to terry

i suppose you could pair terry and smalling but god forbid if smalling did something wrong lol

i think over the last few years this nations stock in centre backs has fallen from grace.

the better ones are getting on now
the younger ones are not proven at this level and need time.

it spells bad news.

spoton and true for almost every position unfortunately ^^

I dont agree that Cahill is overrated - Lets wait till he has played a few games at a top team (Chelsea) then decide.

Hes obviously not sh*t, but has only played in a bolton line up!

jason-dodd 08 Feb 12 14:06 
Yes, and 2012 is related to 2014.

Do you think we'll win the tournament with that team?




No i don't. But to be honest i don't think we'll win the tournament regardless of who we pick, we're a long way behind the top countries.

But if you're asking me do i think we'd have a better chance with an experienced centre back there as opposed to the likes of Smalling/Jones who aren't even 1st choice for their clubs, then yes i do.

Something else to add right now, why is no-one picking Adam Johnson?

Hes got pace, skill and looks dangerous, I think Mancini has realised this and he is about to get a look in.

because he barely plays, if he did play maybe id pick him

Right then biscuit, so you don't think we'll win it.

So why play someone that won't be laying in 2014? Surely it's logical to begin building for the future, if we have barely any chance with our current best XI - wouldn't you agree?

(we'll leave aside the fact that I don't even think Terry is in our best XI!)

Hart

Richards   Smalling   Jones    Cole

Hart

Richards   Smalling   Jones    Cole

                Parker

           Cleverley    Carrick


     Big Danny                Young

                 Rooney

I fcked that up ^^

I wonder if United fans are pinning too much hope on young Cleverly.

No i don't agree Jason.

If the FA made a statement that we were writing off the Euro's, they didn't matter and we were building a side for 2014, then yes by all means, go ahead and pick the kids.

But, whilst i don't think we'll win the Euro's, you've still got to give yourselves the best possible chance and in my opinion our defence would be better with Terry in it, as opposed to 2 inexperienced youngsters who barely play for their club.

Out of interest, if you're writing off the players who've tried and failed and you're building for 2014 why have you selected Cole and Gerrard in your side?

Biscuit

You're entitled to your opinion, but defies logic. We have seen in other sports, and other footballing nations, that planning for the future works.

Jumping from one tournament to another and trying to win with a team that we all know won't win seems like a flawed logic to me, particularly when there's the options of planning for 2014 by using an actual tournament.

It's not like we're promoting the use of players who have just finished their GCSEs. We're talkig about players that are playing in the Premier League and Champions League.


To answer your question, Cole is there because I still rate him as a brilliant left back, and I don't think we have any player capable of playing at that level at the moment, other than him.

Gerrard - I have always rated him very highly. I think, were it not for Benitez shoving him out on the wing, he had the potential to be a truly world class centre midfielder, and I think he might well bring something to the players around him that others can't.

Regular Fries

I wonder if United fans are pinning too much hope on young Cleverly.

He is a product of Bradford City FC and is therefore destined for the very top.

Harte
Walker  Lescott   Jagielka  Baines
    Milner    Gerrard     Parker
Ox                         Sturridge
           Rooney

My team wins .. its by far the best

Feb 8, 2012 -- 2:18PM, Return_Of_Dawsy wrote:

HartRichards   Smalling   Jones    ColeHartRichards   Smalling   Jones    Cole                Parker           Cleverley    Carrick     Big Danny                Young                 Rooney

Ashley Cole!? Welbeckk!?? CLEVERELY?? CAAAAAAAAAAAARICCKK?

CARRICK?????

Surprised Barry Terry Heskey and scott carson arnt in ur team aswell

Hart

Walker
King
Smalling
Cole

Lennon
Carrick
Jones
Young

Rooney
Defoe

Not a bad angle that, great balance.