I expected the prosecution to have far more substantial evidence than they've shown to prove guilt, I'd expect a not guilty from everything I've seen and heard presented. Just my opinion on matters though.
I expected the prosecution to have far more substantial evidence than they've shown to prove guilt, I'd expect a not guilty from everything I've seen and heard presented. Just my opinion on matters though.
if they'd have come back this afternoon would have been definite not guilty.
don't get many juries coming back after only a few hours.
judge all but directed for an acquittal emphasing the good character of the defendants
if they'd have come back this afternoon would have been definite not guilty. don't get many juries coming back after only a few hours.judge all but directed for an acquittal emphasing the good character of the defendants
All being above board, I'd go 1.01 guilty, where do people think this offshore account in the name of his dog appeared from, and it's just a fantastic coincedence that no tax was paid on the money which was in it? Really?!?
Only thing I am worried about is that we could get a repeat of the Gerrard affair when it was 100% certain that he assaulted that bloke in the nightclub, but needless to say the chance of a Liverpool jury finding their most famous player guilty is about the same as San Marino winning the next world cup!
I can't believe some of the comments on here, do people actually believe the "I have no idea what I'm doing financially, can't even fill out a teamsheet or write properly" cobblers?
All being above board, I'd go 1.01 guilty, where do people think this offshore account in the name of his dog appeared from, and it's just a fantastic coincedence that no tax was paid on the money which was in it? Really?!? Only thing I am worried ab
it seems to me that if the geezer who gave him the money has told harry that tax had already been paid on it then that lets harry off the hook, unless the prosecution can prove that the money came from somewhere else and tax hadn't been paid on it.
even then the crown has to prove that #arry knew it was iffy money.
the fact that he put the money in a spurious name is neither here nor there as far as i can see.
it seems to me that if the geezer who gave him the money has told harry that tax had already been paid on it then that lets harry off the hook, unless the prosecution can prove that the money came from somewhere else and tax hadn't been paid on it.e
No, I'm not married, as it happens. If I was I can assure you that I wouldn't have an account in a jurisdiction which is famous for their, shall we say "flexible" arrangements with a client who wants to avoid the attentions of HMRC.
No, I'm not married, as it happens. If I was I can assure you that I wouldn't have an account in a jurisdiction which is famous for their, shall we say "flexible" arrangements with a client who wants to avoid the attentions of HMRC.
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well; i reckon if the evidence isn't there to convict him it would send out a terrible message were he to get done.
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THE PROSECUTION'S CASE SEEMS TO REVOLVE AROUND THAT OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNT, FFS WE ALL HAVE ACCOUNTS ABROAD NAMED AFTER OUR PETS, WELL MY FELLOW PROS DO ANYWAY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
I'M GONNA GO FOR A NOT GUILTY VERDICTTHE PROSECUTION'S CASE SEEMS TO REVOLVE AROUND THAT OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNT, FFS WE ALL HAVE ACCOUNTS ABROAD NAMED AFTER OUR PETS, WELL MY FELLOW PROS DO ANYWAY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
said all along , poor case by prosecution , not even a a knuckle was wrapped, well done arry ,,,, the best thing you get from managers , is a odd 1 or 2 days grace to watch their teams performing . At least harry put 150 k in bank for youth footie , anybody else do this ?............man appears to more than compensate for any wrong doing , ats off to arry well done ...
said all along , poor case by prosecution , not even a a knuckle was wrapped, well done arry ,,,, the best thing you get from managers , is a odd 1 or 2 days grace to watch their teams performing . At least harry put 150 k in bank fo
ATS OFF TO ARRY PARTY ................................NEXT ENGERLAND MANAGER ...DOING IT FOR NOWT ,,,,,,A GENTLEMAN OF THE KNIGHT .................MAYBE A SIR ARRY ...A FEW KNIGHT HOODS SPARE FOR HIM ????????? A JOB ADVISER TO H.M.R. NO THATS TOOK IT TOOO FAR ???
ATS OFF TO ARRY PARTY ................................NEXT ENGERLAND MANAGER ...DOING IT FOR NOWT ,,,,,,A GENTLEMAN OF THE KNIGHT .................MAYBE A SIR ARRY ...A FEW KNIGHT HOODS SPARE FOR HIM ????????? A JOB ADVISER TO H.
it doesnt matter if he opened an account abroad. even if the prosecution proved that the money related to an employment related bonus, contrary to what MM says, they have to prove that Arry knew that no tax was paid on it. when we get paid by our employers we assume that they have paid the tax, Arry cant be expected to know if it has or hasnt been paid. if it was not employment related its upto MM what he does with his money including setting up a fund for Arry to invest. Will be amazed if Arry was found guilty but cant be sure sbout MM.
it doesnt matter if he opened an account abroad. even if the prosecution proved that the money related to an employment related bonus, contrary to what MM says, they have to prove that Arry knew that no tax was paid on it. when we get paid by our e
think it's cos mandaric told redknapp tax had already been paid on the money in the monaco account. hence mandaric could be found guilty while redknapp not guilty
think it's cos mandaric told redknapp tax had already been paid on the money in the monaco account. hence mandaric could be found guilty while redknapp not guilty
"Arry cant be expected to know if it has or hasnt been paid."
Well I dunno about you, but it says on my payslip that tax has been deducted. Is it different for football managers
"Arry cant be expected to know if it has or hasnt been paid."Well I dunno about you, but it says on my payslip that tax has been deducted. Is it different for football managers
I don't understand why one cannot be found guilty if the other is acquitted? It's the individuals responsibility to make accurate tax declarations not those of the employer.
I don't understand why one cannot be found guilty if the other is acquitted? It's the individuals responsibility to make accurate tax declarations not those of the employer.
well Mandaric and Redknapp claim the monies weren't paid in relation to his job as Portsmouth football manager, the prosecution believe it was and that's where we're at.
well Mandaric and Redknapp claim the monies weren't paid in relation to his job as Portsmouth football manager, the prosecution believe it was and that's where we're at.
Footie clubs alredy under investigation regards ....EXPENSES ...in an 183 part questionair from revenue .............. arry better watch the party job, and keep receipts for future .....not get off twice ...????????????
Footie clubs alredy under investigation regards ....EXPENSES ...in an 183 part questionair from revenue .............. arry better watch the party job, and keep receipts for future .....not get off twice ...????????????
Lester piggott 3 years Steffi Graf`s dad 4 years Wesley Snipes 3 years Boris Becker jammy fecker got away with a big fine Sophia Loren 30 days
Harry Redknapp ? deserves to do time but probably won`t IMO
Lester piggott 3 yearsSteffi Graf`s dad 4 yearsWesley Snipes 3 yearsBoris Becker jammy fecker got away with a big fineSophia Loren 30 daysHarry Redknapp ? deserves to do time but probably won`t IMO
"Redknapp believed he was entitled to the money in addition to an initial payment of the same amount, which equated to five per cent of Portsmouth’s net profit on the deal."
That sounds to me like an employer to employee agreement to me?
"Redknapp believed he was entitled to the money in addition to an initial payment of the same amount, which equated to five per cent of Portsmouth’s net profit on the deal."That sounds to me like an employer to employee agreement to me?
"Both men deny the charges, and have told the court the payments were an investment made by Mandaric on Redknapp’s behalf as “an unrelated personal gesture”
oh but then :"Both men deny the charges, and have told the court the payments were an investment made by Mandaric on Redknapp’s behalf as “an unrelated personal gesture”
That's in relation to a bonus on the sale of Peter Crouch, which is what the prosecution claim was the payment in the Monaco bank account.
The defence claims that money wasn't anything to do with that but monies paid by Mandaric to Redknapp for investments.
That's in relation to a bonus on the sale of Peter Crouch, which is what the prosecution claim was the payment in the Monaco bank account.The defence claims that money wasn't anything to do with that but monies paid by Mandaric to Redknapp for invest
It seems to me that the argument that he doesnt need the money as he`s so well off so why would he do it doesnt hold water. As somebody at work today said,. you may have had a thousand BJ`s but you never say no to another one
It seems to me that the argument that he doesnt need the money as he`s so well off so why would he do it doesnt hold water.As somebody at work today said,. you may have had a thousand BJ`s but you never say no to another one
what actually happened to that money in the end? was it transferred to the US like MM said it was for? if there is no documentation to say this money related to employment I dont know how the prosecution can prove its case. was one of the payments exactly 50% of the expected commission he was expecting for Crouch? If my boss was my best mate and he gave my 5K, why would any tax be paid.
what actually happened to that money in the end? was it transferred to the US like MM said it was for? if there is no documentation to say this money related to employment I dont know how the prosecution can prove its case. was one of the payments e
Prosecution evidence very poor,surprised that it went to court-must be not guilty.That does not mean to say they are innocent-I am sure the vast majority will think they are 100% guilty.I know what I think!!
Prosecution evidence very poor,surprised that it went to court-must be not guilty.That does not mean to say they are innocent-I am sure the vast majority will think they are 100% guilty.I know what I think!!
I am amazed all the fuss there has been, for such a small matter. I expected evasion on a gargantuan scale. Seems highly unlikely to me he will be found guilty.
If he was 'at it', then I cant believe he would only have done it this one time, for this relatively paltry amount.
I am amazed all the fuss there has been, for such a small matter. I expected evasion on a gargantuan scale. Seems highly unlikely to me he will be found guilty.If he was 'at it', then I cant believe he would only have done it this one time, for this
I agree but it's the high profile personality in the dock. A bit like the politician getting his wife to take the 3 points for him. It's good copy as they say.
I agree but it's the high profile personality in the dock. A bit like the politician getting his wife to take the 3 pointsfor him. It's good copy as they say.
prosecution clutching at straws. FA also praying for not guilty verdict so they can chuck out Capello and appoint Arry part time until the end of the season before he takes over full time.
prosecution clutching at straws. FA also praying for not guilty verdict so they can chuck out Capello and appoint Arry part time until the end of the season before he takes over full time.
case was supposed to be over yesterday Capello has his meeting today Coincidence?
If found guilty I think will get prison after the way they have been putting MPs in clink for expenses
case was supposed to be over yesterday Capello has his meeting today Coincidence?If found guilty I think will get prison after the way they have been putting MPs in clink for expenses
im not that well up on this legal nonsense, so bit of help, please.
does that mean that redknapp and mandaric would have been liable for the prosecution costs (ie the 8m)? as well as any fine?
do the prosecution have to be harry and milans legal fees?
what was the potential gain for the 8m risk?
many thanks
8m quid?????im not that well up on this legal nonsense, so bit of help, please.does that mean that redknapp and mandaric would have been liable for the prosecution costs (ie the 8m)? as well as any fine?do the prosecution have to be harry and milans
Whoever it was who said "when you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty" knew what they were talking about.
Whoever it was who said "when you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty" knew what they were talking about.