*** Holstein Kiel vs Borussia Dortmund (German Cup) *** Pre-game talk, thoughts etc.

mund are too classy and too fast

well, obviously *d'oh*, but this is cup and the other teams obviously were also "better" on paper

So, it's time to start the talk..

Lineups:

Kiel
Jensen - Herrmann, Berzel, Jürgensen, Poggenberg - Kazior, S. Müller - Sachs, Sykora, Lindner - Heider
Coach: T. Gutzeit

Dortmund
Weidenfeller - Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer - Leitner, Kehl - Blaszczykowski, Kagawa, Großkreutz - Lewandowski
Coach: Klopp

Topscorers of Kiel are Heider (16 games -9 goals) and Lindner (17-9), but they didn't score in the former DFB Pokal matches. Sykora and Kazior both scored 2 in 3 games.

for me: Kiel +2 @ 1.90 (Bet365)

dortmund will ruin kiel today with all due respect to the club. That line up will slaughter your handicap bet as well

The conditions are perfect for Kiel, wouldn't be surprised if the actually win against dortmund. Only a goal in the first 10 minutes or so and/or a red card for kiel could be a reason, that dortmund win clearly. For me a over 1.5 beers @1.0 ;-)

Dortmund:

M. Langerak    
M. Hummels    
Ł. Piszczek    
N. Subotić    
M. Schmelzer    
S. Kehl    
I. Perišić    
J. Błaszczykowski    
M. Leitner    
S. Kagawa    
R. Lewandowski

Dortmund resting a few and Keil haven`t conceded in this competition (against teams several divisions above em).
Favs should salute with ease but having a fun bet on the 0-0 which is 26.0 on here..

GL to all

lineup posted earlier in the thread by prele was wrong, ramping idiot

Correct lineups:


Holstein Kiel

Jensen - Herrmann , Berzel , Jürgensen , Poggenberg - Kazior , S. Müller - Chahed , Sykora , Lindner - Heider

Reservebank:
Jakusch (Tor),Steil,K. Schulz,Sachs,Fischer,Wetter,Wulff


Borussia Dortmund

Langerak - Piszczek , Subotic , Hummels , Schmelzer - Leitner , Kehl     - Blaszczykowski , Kagawa , Perisic - Lewandowski

Reservebank:
Weidenfeller (Tor),Felipe Santana,Löwe,Großkreutz,da Silva,Gündogan,Barrios

Yeah look at the time, it was the supposed lineup by #1 german football source, idiot. And it doesnt matter at all if BVB rests 1 or 2 players, they use their main team overall.

Kiel, though only league 4, definetly have a very strong team. This is, why they are dominating the league and probably will promote.

Kiel is in the north, close to the sea. So it will be quite cold tonight there, maybe -15 or so and windy. Also the pitch will provide difficult conditions. I guess there is no player in the world, who has fun playing under these circumstances.

I have seen there match aginst Mainz, which had very comparable conditions (heavy pitch, cold weather). That Kiel won was no luck, but clearly deserved. They has a very good fighting spirit, played well, utilized teh conditions in their favour and did not let Mainz coming into play.

On the other side, Dortmund rests only the keeper and one player of the first squad. Also they found their form and heve been dominating the league recently.

Conclusion:

This will probably not be a goalfest, though Dortmund has clearly the strengths to give them 6 or 7.

A littke lay of Dortmund could be well worth a try. This is not my bet actually, but I would not be surprised, if Dortund has to struggle more than the paper would suggest.

I myself will watch the first minutes to see how its going.

no offence but by posting unconfirmed lineups without any note to say that they are not "real" on a forum / thread which people may use to make betting decisions you are basically encouraging other people on the forum to make poor decisions with their money.

particularly given that this is a very strong example of a game where team selection is absolutely critical as dortmund were always likely to rest a couple.

dave, i think "ramping idiot" would probably do nicely as causing offence to the poster.

that was entirely intended to cause offence.

i don't mind causing offence to people who post incorrect information as facts on a betting forum. if i did the same i would expect someone to be impolite to me.

the subsequent post was an attempt to highlight the reason why i find it annoying.

never mind enjoy the game all.

speaking of posting unconfirmed things:

Kiel is in the north, close to the sea. So it will be quite cold tonight there, maybe -15 or so


It`s -2.7 now in Kiel according to wetter.com.
Being on the sea keeps the temps. more moderate. The -15 is down here in the South of Germany where it`S absolutely Arctic

some early goals to warm the cockles please my German friends, 2 in the first half and more of the same in the 2nd.

All Dortmund so far..

@ RAPS and all

Your are right, I didn't check the weather-forecast and concluded from the south (where I live) that it would be similar or even worse in the north, esspecially at a sight close to the sea.

Anyway, I think the rest of my comment was pretty acurate. I also explicitely said, taht I'm gonna wait for a few minutes to see the course of the game.

No need to argue, I guess.

Keil almost / should have scored...

Dortmund plays good in the Bundesliga.

But they suck sometimes in cups. CL, EL -> LOSERS.

But they will probably win this thing.

0-1

that was an easy goal!

o2.5 and some 03.5 :)

weeee

BOOM!

bosh!

It`s not important Moghul. I assumed as you did and was surprised when I looked it up..  -2 is tropical compared to here.I am freezing my a$$ off in Stuttgart + I`ve got the Kehrwoche this week so I`m out there shovelling fecken snow into the bargain..

Nice to see all the Poles are not in England !!

Oh RAPS, if you accuse me of providing inaccurate information, this is important. Esspecially as this only half-true if at all.

Anyway, lets forget about it and my sympathy for you picking the Kehrwoche just when it gets really really cold - wouldn't like to switch sides.

Benfica_Fan i give you 3 or 4 weeks to start crying... Porto will smash Benfica !

haha we are playing good football m8, it will be hard but not impossible

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