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By:
degsy42
When: 06 Feb 12 11:44
Webb has be struck off with immediate effect ,his bias towards Man Utd is unbelievable
By:
scholariship
When: 06 Feb 12 11:59
Never thought a ref of his standing capitulate to the cheating that Man Utd bring to the Premiership.They (Utd) would make the tumbling acts in the Moscow state circus envious.It will be a sad day if they win another Prem title this way.They seem to have an abundance of players that shall we say seem to find it easier to lose their feet rather than staying on them.
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Poppydog.
When: 06 Feb 12 12:13
22 players constantly trying to cheat you into decisions
2 managers on the touchline pressurizing the world, into you losing your job

Impossible, just impossible
Full sympathy for all referees these days
By:
jon b
When: 06 Feb 12 13:38
not all players try to cheat but in principal totally agree with poppydog and they get one look and one angle to get it right not half a dozen different ones in slow motion ,thankless task for any individual
By:
the dza
When: 06 Feb 12 13:47
I think some of the refs are poor, but the FA/FIFA really need to update the way the game is officiated. It's time for video refs and an appeals system similar to Tennis/Cricket. Too many big calls get shown to be incorrect by a TV replay that takes 30secs-1min to view the incident from every angle, in slow motion.

Couple that with goal-line technology, and a proper panel (seperate from referees) that deals with retrospective punishment for cheats (divers and violent tackles etc.) and we'd go a long way to having the game officiated to a 21st century standard.
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jason-dodd
When: 06 Feb 12 13:59
Not sure about the video technology dza - would there be less disagreements? You don't see many challenges that everyone agrees with, after a replay.

I agree with your other suggestions though.
By:
the dza
When: 06 Feb 12 14:12
Perhaps Jason, but if a Video ref took a look at a challenge and couldn't make a definitive call on it, then he'd just have to give no foul and play on. Manager's might still cry, but they couldn't really argue if a call can't easily made via replay.
By:
jason-dodd
When: 06 Feb 12 14:13
Maybe - but don't you think we'd have to stop 15-20 times a game?
By:
the dza
When: 06 Feb 12 14:20
That's why I'd use an appeals ssytem. 2 appeals per side -- if you are correct in appealing, you retain the 2 appeals. If incorrect, you lose one.

Probably have to be coupled with some sort of 'incident timeframe' whereby an appeal could only be used within, say, 90 seconds of an incident occuring. So yesterday for example, Chelsea might have scored off that free-kick where Luiz took a dive. The goal goes in, Utd appeal -- if it doesn't, they might save the appeal for another time.

All penalties given would be automatically reviewed and not subject to the appeal system -- this is because there is always a delay between the penalty being given and the actual taking of the kick. during that time, the incident can be replayed again and again until a decision can be given (or not).

Appeals would come into play if a team thinks they should have had a penalty but did not get it -- and that's why the number of appeals would be limited. If there is no penalty, then the team loses one of their appeals, meaning that they would have to be selective in when to use them. Which would make the players involved more honest ie better not dive as I'll look a c**t on the replay and lose my team an appeal.

I'm sure much smarter people than me could work out a better system. Something has to change though. It's ridiculous not to at least use some technology.
By:
jason-dodd
When: 06 Feb 12 14:27
Maybe I'm just being a dinosaur in not wanting it, but it feels to me like it wouldn't work because we're not dealing with clear cut decisions, it's all about opinions.
By:
the dza
When: 06 Feb 12 14:37
If it's ambiguous after a plethora of replays, then it can't be judged a foul imo. The problem is that too many decisions that aren't clear cut are being given as stonewall. That's what the technology would solve, in my view.

We'll never get a perfect system of officiating, but we could get one that is much better.
By:
mexicano
When: 06 Feb 12 14:40
it seems to me that we could take a lead from the nfl.

teams allowed a certain number of challenges.

if on review there's no clear cut mistake they stick to the ruling on the field,
By:
the dza
When: 06 Feb 12 14:45
Something like that, Mex.

Care would have to be taken not to disrupt the flow of the game too much, but I think something could be worked in because of the delays contentious decisions tend to cause; see how long it takes for a penalty to be taken from when the decision was given, or the hold-ups caused by players surrounding the ref etc.
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