POST YOUR 2010-2011 HANDICAP PICKS HERE & WHO WITH

Where do you get the handicap picks?

I was all set to do the following, with no handicap, but the handicap looks good there

for the record, I've picked a 25cen each way lucky 31
Man city @ 5/1
Forest 15/2
peterboro 10/1
torquay 25/1
York 12/1

.25 stake costs 7.75 and returns 75,410 with paddy power....ah the optimism

also going for an ew patent(long shots) for top scorer

Beckford @ 80/1
earnshaw 16/1
stokes at 7/2

Crewe 28/1

Anyone know where you get these handicap bets?

http://www.disabledoddschecker.com/

Thanks

Right am i seeing this correctly in the premeir league say you wanted to back chelsea normally you would probably get 6s but for the handicap of 0 you can back them @ 16s? Surely that cant be correct

yes but every other team gets their handicap added to their totals

I want to know who's laying Chelsea at 6s for the title!

Chelsea at 6s is more believable than the lack of 's I got for my web address joke before imo

Right then im thinking of a yankee

Newcastle +40 @ 16s
Pompey +12 @ 19s
Charlton +13 @ 19s
Crewe +12 @ 19s


What would the difference be between each way lucky 15 and a normal lucky 15?

I must say I chuckled at that one! It's certainly funnier than the prospect of my alarm clock going off at 7.05am

Goodnight all.

Ah thanks for that marychain Maybe there not a good bet then

1 pound ew lucky 15 will cost you thirty instead of 15 if thats your question

Night M&P

MMisa, without wanting to be facetious, I'd say that the first one would be each way.

Yeah i understand that, i mean whats the difference? Is it just extra money returned, as E/W is usually on horses places, where as on a lucky 15 you have doubles singles etc so is it just like putting £2 on each instead of £1

yeah, but you can do an ew lucky 15 on the horses as well. in fotball, its probably 1/2 the odds for 2nd place in prem league,and 1/3 odds top three places in the other divisions, but diff ookies have differant rules. verify when doing the bet, as I've just checked Paddy Power's site and the info is differant from their phone betting!!!

Thanks Den sounds like a good e/w bet then

no probs MM.i DON'T KNOW IF EW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE HNDICAP BETTING THOUGH.

WHO YOU GOING FOR?

it's 1/5 or 1/4 odds first 4 on handicap. it's right there on the checker page

miz - what checker page? cheers

Im going for these den

Newcastle +40 @ 16s
Pompey +12 @ 19s
Charlton +13 @ 19s
Crewe +12 @ 19s

E/w and a normal, lucky 15 as well My first season properly betting this year only started half way through the last

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/handicaps

english/premier-league/handicaps

Right just before i place it, i take it at the end of the season they add everyones handicap on yeah and not just your teams

Yep all teams get there league points plus the handicap added, highest overall wins

Most bookmakers are paying first 4 in the handicap betting

You are guaranteed a small profit even if you only get 2 places

£1 ew lucky15 pays at least £36 with 2 places

£241 with 3 places
£1578 with 4 places

Then your returns go up the more winners you pick!

This really is the best ante-post bet around for the soccer student to pit their wits against the old enemy imo

i have never done a bet like this before...i just usually do a league winners bet

i am really interested in trying this bet for the first time but i really dont know how i should pick my selections....

any tips/thought for the new lad??!!

Its all about selecting teams you think will do better than the bookmakers think.

For example the Handicap Premiership winners over the last 2 seasons have been
2009 Stoke
2010 Birmingham

Whilst the Championship and Division 2 Handicaps winners last season were the runaway League winners Newcastle and Notts Co respectively. (Division 1 was won by Swindon).

It pays to look at bookmakers lists. (I'll use Laddies and Bl Sq to highlight examples)

Of those posted already the points spread on the Championship is narrower with Bl Sq than Laddies. So if you think one of the favourites will do well, then bet them with Bl Sq, on the other hand the outsiders to win the league would be a beter bet with Laddies on the Handicap.
There are 20 teams handicapped by Laddies that have a bigger head handicap than with BL Sq, the best of which is Ipsich with 6 extra.

If you fancy Middlesbor, Forest, Bristol C or Derby then you bet them with Bl Sq.

So work down all 4 divisions, select the 4 teams youy think will do better than the bookmakers think, seek out the best handicaps, get your bet on and enjoy.

A few more bookmakers up with their spreads now

Got a stiffy on when i seen Corals +19 for Bristol City

looks like i'll be having another bet!

had 3 place and 1 dh a place 2 years ago


sunderland look a decent back

Just completed my Coral coupon too

Some excellent value here

ok my Handicap picks here are:

For A 50p EW lucky 15 @ Corals

Premiership Blackburn +40
Championship Bristol C +18
Division 1 Southampton Scr (massive massive dangers Swindon +20, this was a tough call)
Division 2 Port Vale +10

Another bet returning a juicy £68000+ (even to 10p stakes nearly £14k)

Roll on May 2011...thats £30 i've now spent but i consider these bets excellent valie for money!

And - BOTH BETS CAN WIN!!

spurs and villa won it last season

Nope Birmingham won with all bookmakers

villa were best placed 2nd at betfair/bl sq and vee cee
tottenham were best placed 2nd with just about everyone else

oops i added last season points to this seasons handicaps

blackburn is a crazy bet imo, will be lucky to get 40 points and will be bottom 5

no need to worry about swindon, lost/losing all their best players

the market is up on here
has anyone got last years points to add to these, maybe give blackpool 28 wba 35 newcastle 45 ????
 


Chelsea 0 pts
Man Utd +2 pts
Man City +7 pts
Arsenal +9 pts
Liverpool +14 pts
Tottenham +17 pts
Everton +23 pts
Aston Villa +25 pts
Newcastle +35 pts
Sunderland +36 pts
Birmingham +36 pts
Blackburn +38     
Fulham +38 pts
West Ham +38 pts 
Stoke +39 pts 
Bolton +40 pts
Wolves +42 pts   
Wigan +43 pts     
West Brom +46 pts 
Blackpool +52 pts

even if we cant nail a winner we should be able to find 10 or so lays

Chelsea 0 pts 86
Man Utd +2 pts 85
Man City +7 pts 67
Arsenal +9 pts 75
Liverpool +14 pts 63
Tottenham +17 pts 70
Everton +23 pts 61
Aston Villa +25 pts 64
Newcastle +35 pts 102
Sunderland +36 pts 44
Birmingham +36 pts 50
Blackburn +38 50
Fulham +38 pts 46
West Ham +38 pts 35
Stoke +39 pts  47
Bolton +40 pts 39
Wolves +42 pts   38
Wigan +43 pts     36
West Brom +46 pts 91
Blackpool +52 pts 70

LAST YEARS PREMIER TOALS AFTER HANDICAP

Chelsea 0 pts 86   =86
Man Utd +2 pts 85 =87
Man City +7 pts 67 = 74
Arsenal +9 pts 75=  84
Liverpool +14 pts 63  = 77
Tottenham +17 pts 70=  87
Everton +23 pts 61  =  84
Aston Villa +25 pts 64  = 89
Newcastle +35 pts 50?  =85
Sunderland +36 pts 44= 80
Birmingham +36 pts 50  =  86
Blackburn +38 50   =  88
Fulham +38 pts 46  =  82
West Ham +38 pts 35    =  73
Stoke +39 pts  47  =  87
Bolton +40 pts 39  = 79
Wolves +42 pts   38  =  80
Wigan +43 pts     36  =  79
West Brom +46 pts 38? =  82
Blackpool +52 pts 28? = 80

teams with no chance id say
man city
arsnal
man utd
newcastle
blackburn
west ham
bolton
wigan
west brom
blackpool

I DONE MY PREDICTIONS (FIRST TOTAL AFTER REAM NAME)

TO GET THE FOLLOWING RESULT ON THE BETFAIR HANDICAP

Arsenal    73        82
Aston Villa 60        85
Birmingham 42        78
Blackburn 48        86 2ND
Blackpool 24        76
Bolton    42        82
Chelsea    80        80
Everton    60        83
Fulham    40        78
Liverpool 73        87 1ST
Man City 75        82
Man Utd    77        79
Newcastle 42        77
Stoke    40        79
Sunderland 47        83
Tottenham 68        85
West Brom 32        78
West Ham 42        80
Wigan 35        78
Wolverhampton 35    77

VIEWS....

ill have a go

chelsea to win the league with 80 points

I'm sorry, but if you think Liverpool are going to find 10 points all of a sudden with an even weaker squad you are deluded.

Chelsea 0 pts 90   =90
Man Utd +2 pts 82 =84
Man City +7 pts 72 = 79
Arsenal +9 pts 75=  84
Liverpool +14 pts 76  = 90
Tottenham +17 pts 67=  84
Everton +23 pts 62  =  85
Aston Villa +25 pts 64  = 89
Newcastle +35 pts 50?  =85
Sunderland +36 pts 46= 82
Birmingham +36 pts 48  =  84
Blackburn +38 44   =  82
Fulham +38 pts 50  =  88
West Ham +38 pts 35    =  73
Stoke +39 pts  44  =  83
Bolton +40 pts 41  = 81
Wolves +42 pts   44  =  86
Wigan +43 pts     36  =  79
West Brom +46 pts 38? =  82
Blackpool +52 pts 28? = 80

west ham =45=83

Liverpool gaining 13 points on yours???

What am I missing?

With the b/f handicap it pays you to bet teams who appear to have an easy first 5/6/7 matches  and lay those you think will have a tough start - gives you a trading opportunity later to maximise your profit

Sunderlands looks ok to start and i will be a bettor, but Stoke look to have a tough start hence i will lay, together with the other 7 teams i believe will accumulate less than 80 points.

btw, the "max" bet of the season is Blackpool to finish bottom - have availed myself of 11/10

CHELSEA TO WIN THE LEAGUE WITH 80 IS MORE PROBABLE THAN THE 86 THEY WON IT WITH LAST YEAR!!!

The competition is much tougher this year over last and a number of clubs will start to make inroads.

Arsenal, Liverpool & Man City will all do better this season than last.

I firmly believe Roy is a better manager than "Rafa" and the Reds will be less prone to the mistakes they made last year ie to the tune of 10 points or even more.

That is what is great about foobtall, people have many different opinions, it these opinions i use to make my handicap bet and enjoy the season with a windfall of £68000 coming to me in May.

YOU ARE DELUDED

ok, if i'm deluded let me see your predictions

There is not a chance that Liverpool's point tally will get into the 70's (imo). Hodgson has got to take over a squad of misfits led by a past it Gerrard who looks like he wants to leave more and more with every passing day. No matter how good a manager is it is simply not possible to turn that mess around first time of asking.

He's a carp manager anyway. They finished below Stoke ffs. Why didnt Liverpool snap up Tony Pulis?

finished with 86 points the season before, anywhere in the late 70s and liverpool will win it, gave up last season

Ok...now ask yourself how they managed to go from their best season in the Prem to a shocking one...(we're starting to get somewhere).

could also benifit early by sending the fringe players away in europa league, while the other big guns are in the cl

i agree no CL distractions this year and the aim of Roy will to get them back into the Top 4 this season

Tottenham +16
Palace +28
Brentford +26
Hereford +22

109743/1 K0rals

Sunderland
Coventry
Southamptom
Burton

A LEADING SPREAD FIRM HAS POSTED ITS POINTS SPREADS

THESE CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE TO HELP YOU WTH YOUR HANDICAP PICKS

   Chelsea Points   SELL 82 - 83.5 BUY 
   Man Utd Points   SELL 80.5 - 82 BUY 
   Man City Points   SELL 73.5 - 75 BUY 
   Arsenal Points   SELL 73.5 - 75 BUY 
   Liverpool Points   SELL 68.5 - 70 BUY 
   Tottenham Points   SELL 66 - 67.5 BUY 
   Everton Points   SELL 60.5 - 62 BUY 
   Aston Villa Points   SELL 58.5 - 60 BUY 
   Sunderland Points   SELL 44 - 45.5 BUY 
   Birmingham Points   SELL 42 - 43.5 BUY 
   Blackburn Points   SELL 41.5 - 43 BUY 
   Fulham Points   SELL 41 - 42.5 BUY 
   West Ham Points   SELL 41 - 42.5 BUY 
   Stoke Points   SELL 41 - 42.5 BUY 
   Newcastle Points   SELL 40 - 41.5 BUY 
   Bolton Points   SELL 40 - 41.5 BUY 
   Wigan Points   SELL 38 - 39.5 BUY 
   Wolves Points   SELL 37.5 - 39 BUY 
   West Brom Points   SELL 34 - 35.5 BUY 
   Blackpool Points   SELL 26 - 27.5 BUY   

SEEMS I AM NOT A MILLION MILES AWAY

buy - man city, wolves, sunderland

sell - west ham, fulham, blackburn

I'd buy Blackburn

blackburn lucky to stay up imo

backing them heavily for relegation

Not sure how you come to the conclusion that Blackburn were 'lucky' to stay up?

Portsmouth, Burnley and Hull were all clearly worse than every other team and I don't see how Blackburn were lucky to finish well above them.

The Premier League was very weak last year, but with Blackpool, West Brom and Newcastle coming up it hasn't got much stronger.

I honestly believe this is between liverpool  and blackburn, if you dont fancy Blackburn TAKE ME OUT, then stick up your lay in the b/f handicap market, cheers

i meant blackburn will be lucky to stay up

i have never done a bet like this before so i am new to this....

i have picked a few teams that i think may have a good chance, these are:-

premiership

everton +22
sunderland +36

Championship

nottingham forest +2
middlesbrough 0
bristol city +11

League 1

southampton 0

League 2

bury +12
aldershot +12


can anyone please give me honest thoughts on my picks...thanks

Gone for

Prem - Everton +24 (No Euro Football and hopefully luckier with injuries this season)
CC  - Leicester +12 or Barnsley +30 (probably barnsley)
L1  -  Swindon +20
L2 - Port Vale +10 (not very confident)

@ bob kelso

where did you get those handicaps on those teams?
just wondering as they are higher then the ones i found...

i am stuck trying to pick a team for the championship...i keep drifting towards bristol city though....

Korals. Bristol City +18 with them. Not shown great form in friendlies and have a few injuries but now have David James.

I'll go with:

West Ham +39 15/1
Cardiff +14 18/1
Notts Co. +20 (12/1 at 365, 18/1 at korals!!?)
Gillingham +2 18/1

£1.00 Lucky 15 E/W

Sunderland +34
Sheffield Utd +13
Southampton SCR
Rotherham +3

Returns £143,999.00

Everton +23
Bristol City +10
Posh +10
Hereford +17
Newport +17

Lucky 31. Heart rules head on League 2 I think.

some good prices on here man utd and chelsea @ 34

man u now 38 for a nifty!

Cannot understand why Birmingham are favourites on here,there is no way they will accrue 50 points as they did last season, and there gonna have to to make the frame.

A lay for me!

This years bet A 50p EW lucky 15 @ Laddies

Premiership Arsenal +10
Championship Norwich +13
Division 1 Southampton Scr
Division 2 Burton +19

Returns a juicy £68000+ (even to 10p stakes nearly £14k)

just as well i got my bet on early, they must be running scared!!

Southampton 16/1 from 18
Burton 12/1 from 18/1

Hope you got on early too!!

Handicap pick?
AliBaba888

Bristol City +16 @ 18/1 Good price

Ipswich +16 @ 18/1 Wouldn't touch that...

Prem

everton +25
sunderlamd +36
west ham + 39

champ

barnsley +28
coventry +27
preston +23

League 1

huddersfield +7
walsall +36
swindon +16
notts county +20

league 2

bury +12
burton +20
aldershot +16

SPL

aberdeen +34

I agree with Liverpool and Bristol City as teams to improve next season.

Benitez never took the EPL full seriously - Hodgson was the best manager in the EPL last season.

Bristol City have more money to spend and a shrewd manager.

Teams that win these bets tend to be teams fancied to struggle who cause big shocks. West Ham and Newcastle have the capability to shock.

redknapp and mcgleish were much better than roy in the league last season

It was getting them to cup final that won Woy the award last season.

RH got Fulham to a Europa League final on less than 50% of the resources of Harry - the previous year RH got Fulham 7th - I would challenge Mourinho to do that!

I also fancy Shrewsbury to surprise a few people and improve on last season - Graham Turner knows Div 2 inside out and has a lot of contacts in the West Midlands which helps him pick up decent loans and freebies from the bigger clubs. He has a bit more money to spend than at Hereford and Shrewsbury will be more settled into their new ground. I have taken them at 4/1 for promotion.

I've just done this with Bet365 only 10p ew lucky 15

Wolves +44
Norwich +14
Bury +12
Southampton +0

bet365,

Everton +24
Millwall +26
Charlton +11
Crewe +18

4 fold comes out at 109,744.... can only hope!

You never know...

  Everton +24  @  14/1
  Ipswich +11  @  18/1
  Southampton Scr @ 18/1
  Wycombe +2   @  18/1

30p ew lucky 15  pays just over £32,000 at Skybet.

   GOOD LUCK ALL.

bigphatairyarse
Joined: 06 Mar 06
Replies: 210 28 Jul 10 16:29   
Got a stiffy on when i seen Corals +19 for Bristol City

looks like i'll be having another bet!

JUST IN TIME TOO THEY'VE SHORTENED THEM TO 14/1

Bolton +40        16/1
Bristol City +15  18/1
Southampton Scr   18/1
Crewe +16         18/1

E/W singles and L15 @ VC

Good Luck All.

excellent fred big hairy one!

agree that Swindon are one to avoid in League One though - see them as a sell on the points/handicap spreads

ANY news of the  racing post handicap picks yet?

some shortening in last 2 hrs of Liverpool

champ
Doncaster/Barnsley

div 2
Port Vale/Southend

Tried an ew dble with vee-cee on the net, would not take it

^^^^^
bigphatairyarse....I placed my E/W L15 with VC.Will not accept via the net,however if you ring them telephone operators will accept the bet.

Must be some more of you played?

REmember just an all correct 20p lucky 15 pays 27 grand for only £3

Defo the most value bet of any season!!

laid 10 teams in the prem on here worked out almost evens, ive laid arsenal and stoke for zero losses, blackpool wba blackburn man city newcastle west ham wigan and bolton for losses. think liverpool have the best chance.

Laid Birmingham to lose

Birmingham +36 pts  12.63  £39.50  £498.99 £459.49

Could not believe someone asking for 12.0 & 13.0, can bet them back now at 17.0

Awful season lies ahead for "Les Bleus"

Great thread, had a few.

Lucky 15 - Number 1
Villa +25 15/1
Forest +3 18/1
Charlton +11 18/1
Glasgow Rangers +2 9/1

Lucky 15 - Number 2
Everton +24 12/1
Bristol City +13 18/1
Walsall +36 12/1
Crewe +18 18/1

Lucky 15 - Number 3
Liverpool +14 15/1
Boro +0 18/1
Southampton +0 18/1
Shresbury +12 12/1

All done as each ways. Good luck to everyone.