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bigphatairyarse
28 Jul 10 00:12
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I love a go at this each season as the win potential is massive for small stakes and i urge you all to have a crack and post your bets.

I have twice managed to get 3 out of 4.

In 1999 Sunderland let me down when Bradford came from behind to beat Wolves at Molineux on the final day of the season.

Last season it was Norwich who scuppered the bet despite winning the league, victory going to Swindon

This years bet A 50p EW lucky 15 @ Laddies

Premiership Arsenal +10
Championship Norwich +13
Division 1 Southampton Scr
Division 2 Burton +19

Returns a juicy £68000+ (even to 10p stakes nearly £14k)

Roll on May 2011

Good Luck with whatever you pick and enjoy the season!

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By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:22
Where do you get the handicap picks?
By:
den perry
When: 28 Jul 10 00:33
I was all set to do the following, with no handicap, but the handicap looks good there

for the record, I've picked a 25cen each way lucky 31
Man city @ 5/1
Forest 15/2
peterboro 10/1
torquay 25/1
York 12/1

.25 stake costs 7.75 and returns 75,410 with paddy power....ah the optimism

also going for an ew patent(long shots) for top scorer

Beckford @ 80/1
earnshaw 16/1
stokes at 7/2
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Jul 10 00:35
Crewe 28/1
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:38
Anyone know where you get these handicap bets?
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Jul 10 00:40
http://www.disabledoddschecker.com/
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:41
Thanks Happy
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:43
Right am i seeing this correctly in the premeir league say you wanted to back chelsea normally you would probably get 6s but for the handicap of 0 you can back them @ 16s? Surely that cant be correct
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Jul 10 00:48
yes but every other team gets their handicap added to their totals
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 28 Jul 10 00:50
I want to know who's laying Chelsea at 6s for the title!
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Jul 10 00:52
Chelsea at 6s is more believable than the lack of Laugh's I got for my web address joke before imo
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:54
Right then im thinking of a yankee

Newcastle +40 @ 16s
Pompey +12 @ 19s
Charlton +13 @ 19s
Crewe +12 @ 19s


What would the difference be between each way lucky 15 and a normal lucky 15?
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 28 Jul 10 00:55
I must say I chuckled at that one! It's certainly funnier than the prospect of my alarm clock going off at 7.05am Cry

Goodnight all.
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:55
Ah thanks for that marychain Laugh Maybe there not a good bet then
By:
den perry
When: 28 Jul 10 00:56
1 pound ew lucky 15 will cost you thirty instead of 15 if thats your question
By:
marychain1
When: 28 Jul 10 00:57
Night M&P

MMisa, without wanting to be facetious, I'd say that the first one would be each way.
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 00:57
Yeah i understand that, i mean whats the difference? Is it just extra money returned, as E/W is usually on horses places, where as on a lucky 15 you have doubles singles etc so is it just like putting £2 on each instead of £1
By:
den perry
When: 28 Jul 10 01:03
yeah, but you can do an ew lucky 15 on the horses as well. in fotball, its probably 1/2 the odds for 2nd place in prem league,and 1/3 odds top three places in the other divisions, but diff ookies have differant rules. verify when doing the bet, as I've just checked Paddy Power's site and the info is differant from their phone betting!!!
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 01:06
Thanks Den sounds like a good e/w bet then Grin
By:
den perry
When: 28 Jul 10 01:08
no probs MM.i DON'T KNOW IF EW WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE HNDICAP BETTING THOUGH.

WHO YOU GOING FOR?
By:
miz
When: 28 Jul 10 01:10
it's 1/5 or 1/4 odds first 4 on handicap. it's right there on the checker page
By:
den perry
When: 28 Jul 10 01:11
miz - what checker page? cheers
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 01:29
Im going for these den

Newcastle +40 @ 16s
Pompey +12 @ 19s
Charlton +13 @ 19s
Crewe +12 @ 19s

E/w and a normal, lucky 15 as well Grin My first season properly betting this year only started half way through the last
By:
miz
When: 28 Jul 10 01:36
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/handicaps
By:
miz
When: 28 Jul 10 01:37
english/premier-league/handicaps
By:
MMisapr1ck
When: 28 Jul 10 01:39
Right just before i place it, i take it at the end of the season they add everyones handicap on yeah and not just your teams
By:
Buell Mule
When: 28 Jul 10 01:45
Yep all teams get there league points plus the handicap added, highest overall wins
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 08:33
Most bookmakers are paying first 4 in the handicap betting

You are guaranteed a small profit even if you only get 2 places

£1 ew lucky15 pays at least £36 with 2 places

£241 with 3 places
£1578 with 4 places

Then your returns go up the more winners you pick!

This really is the best ante-post bet around for the soccer student to pit their wits against the old enemy imo
By:
mattyj3nks86
When: 28 Jul 10 10:13
i have never done a bet like this before...i just usually do a league winners bet

i am really interested in trying this bet for the first time but i really dont know how i should pick my selections....

any tips/thought for the new lad??!!
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 11:27
Its all about selecting teams you think will do better than the bookmakers think.

For example the Handicap Premiership winners over the last 2 seasons have been
2009 Stoke
2010 Birmingham

Whilst the Championship and Division 2 Handicaps winners last season were the runaway League winners Newcastle and Notts Co respectively. (Division 1 was won by Swindon).

It pays to look at bookmakers lists. (I'll use Laddies and Bl Sq to highlight examples)

Of those posted already the points spread on the Championship is narrower with Bl Sq than Laddies. So if you think one of the favourites will do well, then bet them with Bl Sq, on the other hand the outsiders to win the league would be a beter bet with Laddies on the Handicap.
There are 20 teams handicapped by Laddies that have a bigger head handicap than with BL Sq, the best of which is Ipsich with 6 extra.

If you fancy Middlesbor, Forest, Bristol C or Derby then you bet them with Bl Sq.

So work down all 4 divisions, select the 4 teams youy think will do better than the bookmakers think, seek out the best handicaps, get your bet on and enjoy.

LaughHappy
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 16:26
A few more bookmakers up with their spreads now
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 16:29
Got a stiffy on when i seen Corals +19 for Bristol City

looks like i'll be having another bet!

LaughHappy
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 28 Jul 10 16:30
had 3 place and 1 dh a place 2 years ago


sunderland look a decent back
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 19:17
Just completed my Coral coupon too

Some excellent value here

ok my Handicap picks here are:

For A 50p EW lucky 15 @ Corals

Premiership Blackburn +40
Championship Bristol C +18
Division 1 Southampton Scr (massive massive dangers Swindon +20, this was a tough call)
Division 2 Port Vale +10

Another bet returning a juicy £68000+ (even to 10p stakes nearly £14k)

Roll on May 2011...thats £30 i've now spent but i consider these bets excellent valie for money!

And - BOTH BETS CAN WIN!!

LaughHappy
By:
TAKE ME OUT
When: 28 Jul 10 19:24
spurs and villa won it last season
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 19:35
Nope Birmingham won with all bookmakers

villa were best placed 2nd at betfair/bl sq and vee cee
tottenham were best placed 2nd with just about everyone else
By:
TAKE ME OUT
When: 28 Jul 10 19:42
oops i added last season points to this seasons handicaps

blackburn is a crazy bet imo, will be lucky to get 40 points and will be bottom 5

no need to worry about swindon, lost/losing all their best players
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Jul 10 20:00
the market is up on here
has anyone got last years points to add to these, maybe give blackpool 28 wba 35 newcastle 45 ????
 


Chelsea 0 pts
Man Utd +2 pts
Man City +7 pts
Arsenal +9 pts
Liverpool +14 pts
Tottenham +17 pts
Everton +23 pts
Aston Villa +25 pts
Newcastle +35 pts
Sunderland +36 pts
Birmingham +36 pts
Blackburn +38     
Fulham +38 pts
West Ham +38 pts 
Stoke +39 pts 
Bolton +40 pts
Wolves +42 pts   
Wigan +43 pts     
West Brom +46 pts 
Blackpool +52 pts
By:
dsmith
When: 28 Jul 10 20:01
even if we cant nail a winner we should be able to find 10 or so lays
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 28 Jul 10 20:12
Chelsea 0 pts 86
Man Utd +2 pts 85
Man City +7 pts 67
Arsenal +9 pts 75
Liverpool +14 pts 63
Tottenham +17 pts 70
Everton +23 pts 61
Aston Villa +25 pts 64
Newcastle +35 pts 102
Sunderland +36 pts 44
Birmingham +36 pts 50
Blackburn +38 50
Fulham +38 pts 46
West Ham +38 pts 35
Stoke +39 pts  47
Bolton +40 pts 39
Wolves +42 pts   38
Wigan +43 pts     36
West Brom +46 pts 91
Blackpool +52 pts 70

LAST YEARS PREMIER TOALS AFTER HANDICAP
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