Man City +7 points on the handicap - 15/1

what signings make you believe they can make up all those points on chelsea man utd and arsenal,to make them a great bet?

You havent researched this very well...Surely if that's your thing, you would want the +8 points at 16/1 being offered by Murdoch's lot?

Besides, it is perfectly possible that City win the league and STILL this bet doesnt win, so not for me.

Torres, Milner, Ballotelli, Silva, Boateng

This season is gonna be epic

City will break Chelseas points and goals records

They'd need about 20 points start to stand an earthly.

Very bad bet, will finish at least 20 points behind

good luck with this but not for me,all these new players gelling straight away(lose first game) and price will drift straight away

turtlehead has a massive problem with man city

has to post on every single thread saying they should be 25/1

sunderland +38 points is very good aswell

Break Chelseas points and goals record? lmfao ....

Will do well to get 70pts and 70 goals

you being such an helpful chap why dont you compile a table of last years points then add the handicaps

maybe give blackpool 25
wba                 35
newcastle           40ish

Erm, stupid, why would I have a problem with a side who is going to make me a large amount of money this season when I lay them every game

ok i will back thwm every game and we see who makes the most

sounds like a challenge?

Fine by me.

sunderland +38
or balckburn for me

wouldn't touch blackburn. In fact they would be my dark horse for he drop. Skint and have not spent a penny, manager unhappy, woeful in pre season.

Wolves + 44

these markets are a bookies dream ffs, 15-1 on a 20 runner race??????????????, if a team does a birmingham, who probably won it least season, then city cant win with +7 imo

correct below, I'd bet if you look through the past 5 years results, one of the top 6 teams in the outright market haven't won the handicap results.

This market is a dodgy one.  There is usually at least on team who surprises and does well.  If i was having a bet Everton +23, Sunderland +36 and Villa +25 look the bets.

DMB   never would have guessed you would have chose everton 

SB that is my unbiased opinion [;)]

Don't like Man City plus the 8 points at S.ybet, let alone 7 elsewhere.  Spuds might squeak it with plus 20, but think this is a bit too tight to call.

If anyones interested here is the list of last years points and totals incl Hcap start ( from SJ coupon)

Chelsea  86    86
Man U    85    88
Arsenal  75    84
Spuds    70    89
Man C    67    74
Aston V  64    89
Liverp   63    78
Everton  61    84
Birmingh 50    86
Blackbu  50    87
Stoke    47    86
Sunder   44    77
Bolton   39    77
Wolves   38    80
Wigan    36    78
West Ham 35    74     

Assuming Chelsea and Man U go similarly well, something over 90 is going to be needed to win this.  To get this Man C are going to need an improvement of 23 points on last year, not forgetting that they took 6 points of Chelsea, which to my mind is unlikely to be repeated.

thanks blackfritz, how many points are newcastle getting

that info is also available at www.kjbetting.co.uk

SJ give Newcastle 37 points, West Brom 46 and Blackpool 49

thanks i fancy newcastle to get between 45 and 50 so 37 wouldnt be enough

It's not the sides higher in the hadicap they have to beat
but the springers below them. The handicap is usually won
by a lower level side, like last season I believe B'ham
and previously Stoke if memory serves me correct.

the results from last season are a few posts up [smiley:crazy]

need chance of 95pts inc handicap to be really interesting.  can't see City getting 80 let alone 88

indeed one of the no hopers getting 40 to 45 usually gets around 50 points making the 90ish needed

SHP, the post you refer to doesn't tell you
what the starts were this time last season.

liverpool could get to 90 points with their handicap, id guess apart from last season they would normally get 75 points

there have been some 100+ winners, Reading in 2007, Ipwich in 2001 certainly and probably one or two others

do they do a market on here?

wigan possibly as well in their first season ? got around 50 points iirc.

i see sporting index have a spreads market up. if you believe them to be correct the best bet appears to be spurs with sky @ 17 with +20 pts

Id take none of the bets, stupid +s

Where are these bets anyway?

Just seen a good bet at hills under premier league specials

Team to score over 103 goals in the season @ 8/1 Got to be worth £30 on that at least

how many times has a team scored over 103 goals in a season?

Not sure how many times, but i think Chelsea could score that many this season, less than 3 a game on average

chelsea last season was the one and only time

i think the next closest is man utd with 97

shocking price tbh

What about Luton to be promoted by April 1st @ 20/1?