BOLOGNA V CATANIA

under 2.5 @2 lol

Oh ffs I gave the eyeties some credit for being honourable and fecking layed this pre kick off. I SHALL be consumed with rage. Never mind the other dodgey games today. Joke league.

Black listing it I think.

Cheating **** bast'ards.

catania 60/1

catania playing like man united now and they couldn,t string two passes together first half, def f1xed

you can beck under 2.5@1.61 and lay 1-1 @1.55

away win ****e d?

gone.

If this ends 1-1, I demand an investigation and suggest Italy get thrown out of the world cup.

Anything other than 1-1 and I'll be happy enough.

Italians eh. Eh.

I'd be tempted to email the italian FA myself but don't want to meet a guy with a dark suit and a pair of pliers.

1-1 odds went down to 1.35 and then now at 1.65, what gives?

scrooge, you must be a very important person.

please god make it a 2-2 ****x

the fact that atlanta are losing means bologna stay up with a draw so its looking very bad for the 1-1 layers

:^0

2-2 would be nice, worth covering

how is the game? any danger?

why bologna 6.x and catania 60's..

cmon a goal, bologna, do it for the fans.

Maxi Lopez

King of Corrupt goals

Haha, of course but I'll be the least of their worries ;)

mafia!

Find it hard to believe that 1-1 would be agreed... ok agree to draw but why 1-1?

Because if they specify score they've more markets to play on, and can, during oscillations after goals, try to trade for much more profit?

if they are goona draw, they might as well agree on a correct result so they can bet on it.

c,mon catania

watching the game looks like a good game of keep ball..... interesting

gotta a real sneaky feelin that a late goal is in this... i backed 1-1 very very big pre kick off

Total matched on this event:       £2,602,206
Betting summary - Volume:      £2,414,681
Last price matched:      1.16

Have there been any shots on target since it went 1-1?

no shots on targer, there not getting in each others boxes at all. all in the middle

Well you can trade out now. Us layers, we're shafted.

Grrrrrrrrrrr. I can't believe in 2010 in a (theoretically) 1st world country we're even SUSPECTING that a match is ****ed,
never mind fairly certain of it.

Italy must be a ph*cked up country.

anyone got a link?

To be honest the layers knew what was going on before laying... i.e a draw should never be 1.5prematch unless suspicious... 1-1 would never be odds on pre match so its very hard to feel sorry for the layers.

i'm watching and serously, no attacker is even stepping in the other's penalty box, are they worried aboutfreak penalty kicks? sooooooo ****ed (repaired)

Last week some people were going on about a f1x3d match, and it wasn't. Having said that, the wierdness of odds wasn't on this level.

Perhaps I'm just too trusting that people out there AREN'T dodgey c**ts, but I was forgetting I was judging them by UK moral standards, not dodgeylandia.

Where you watching about?

http://www.iraqgoals.net/8468-bologna-fc-vs-catania-.html

Subs falling asleep on the bench... says it all.

Doesn't matter that we all knew the odds were wrong, that's the only time anyone should bet and you still should expect a game played in good faith... if that's not the case then that's an absolute ****ing pisstaking disgrace imo.

I am also watching the last 20 mins and it's the nearest thing to a **** I have ever seen tbh.

Really, gonna think twice about betting on italian football in future.

ground why do you feel the need to come in all high and mighty saying you have no sympathy when you know people are loosing money. We all knew the risk involved and we dont need you to tell us.

traded out ... for decent profits.. layers should've known better!!! :-)

sorry if you lost but its not like no one had any warning

the italians do think its ok to arrange draws at the end of the season and other results sometimes, if it suits them, its not just about the betting

quite funny watching the effort of both teams strikers.

This is it scrooge. I just had trouble BELIEVING it was ****ed. Now.. Well. My faith in humanity is shattered.

I mean it must've been? How could it NOT have been?!

How the fu'ck is this sh'it accepted in Italy?

It's like a game of playground football in the middle of the pitch.

Wasn't being high and mighty i'm just saying that the people who are now moaning it is f!xed.. knew that was a huge possibility before laying. Layers laid 1.5 a draw PRE MATCH taking a chance.. which hasn't paid off so feel its a bit rich them complaining now.

With that being said it is a disgrace and shouldn't happen especially as blatant as this.

Wow I love how everyone waits until its 1-1 then lectures people who layed the 1-1. Do you not think we are aware of ri gging happens in Italian football?

Jim why, given Cat were safe, would they arrange a draw, and specifically a certain score, unless it was dodgey?

It's match f1xing, you can't describe it as anything else.

If they find it acceptable, that's just a very poor reflection on their character.

hopefully a streaker runs on and makes it interesting a little

Was it a **** or an arrangement ? I do not know. I have layed the draw and lost a little bit money. There were enough possiblities to trade out but i do not used them. That was never my plan.

But the match has shown that you can make as trader much money in the different markets around the match and so it was at least for me an interesting learning experience.

just checking
"Really, gonna think twice about betting on italian football in future".

fccuking pmsl

Prematch odds:
0-0 5.00
1-1 2.10
2-2 9.00

Guess that's another sign what was to come.
Didn't get involved... as I didn't have the insider information as others may have had...

One Seria A round to go...

in italy they do each other favours like this sometimes if its no skin off their nose. its acceptable to them, its just a different approach to ours.

so how much did every one win an lose? i only lost 40 quid

they should have more games like this :-) :-) easy money!!!!

different approach?! don't give me that bullshiz it's blatant match ****ing and cheating

££££££££

lol jim be trollin

anyone who laid the draw needs their head examined

Da_Lucky_OnE Joined: 30 Mar 10
Replies: 10 09 May 10 16:02 
they should have more games like this :-) :-) easy money!!!!

if u believe that u'll end up losing big time on here.
SO many games ramped up as ****ed...how many actually end up exactly as expected?? not that many.

backing the draw at sub 1.5 pre-KO is a sure way to lose. ****e or no ****e.

marquinhos     09 May 10 16:03 
lol jim be trolling

Jim was not trolling

lionrock you are right it is a quick way to the poor house.. but all the signs were there that this was gonna be a draw.. two teams playing pre-ultimate game of season.. both safe nothing to play for.. coupled with that its italian footy.. all the signs were there.. i backed at 1.48 and traded out for an each way profit at 1.1, i dont normally back at those odds but hey ho you win some n lose some this is gambling!!!

Boxing: £;0.01 | Mixed Martial Arts: -£;1.10 | Soccer: £;208.68  Total P&L:  £;207.59

Soccer > Bologna v Catania : Correct Score    Showing 1 - 16 of 16 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£;)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£;)
0 - 0    *    53.61    17.95    Back         -17.95
0 - 0    *    34.91    27.31    Lay         27.31
0 - 1    *    209.40    23.91    Back         -23.91
0 - 1    *    90.28    55.29    Lay         55.29
0 - 2    *    279.71    4.07    Back         -4.07
0 - 2    *    267.18    4.01    Lay         4.01
1 - 0    *    202.97    23.65    Back         -23.65
1 - 0    *    71.68    66.52    Lay         66.52
1 - 1    *    1.97    9.00    Back         8.70
1 - 1    *    1.92    14.00    Lay         -12.91
1 - 2    210.00    2.00    Back    09-May-10 14:39    -2.00
1 - 2    *    76.28    3.74    Lay         3.74
2 - 0    *    158.17    99.22    Back         -99.22
2 - 0    *    68.31    228.56    Lay         228.56
2 - 1    50.00    0.67    Back    09-May-10 15:36    -0.67
2 - 1    11.00    4.00    Lay    09-May-10 15:42    4.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -162.77
Lay subtotal:    376.52
Market subtotal:    213.75
Commission @ 5%:    10.69
Net Market Total:    203.06

F!XED

2.7 million matched on this game 2.5 million on the DRAW
The draw was 1.4 at kick off. The correct score was 1.8 at kick off. BETFAIR NEED TO PULL THE PLUG ON THESE GAMES IF NOT THEY ARE COLLUDING IN FRAUD. THEY SHOULD ALSO INFORM UEFA, who should suspend both clubs. I will never bet on
Italian football again. Totally and utterly crooked.

DaveSussex
"I will never bet on Italian football again. Totally and utterly crooked. "

Same thoughts here. Don't care if some smart ars3 after timers are on about 'they knew', kind of misses the point,  by a few 1000 miles.

What about the fans who have paid hard earned cash to watch this crap. Is this the way Italian football supporters are treated.
These are people who travel to support their clubs all year round. Not the clever guys on here who made a profit from a crooked match, so you think its O.K. to cheat and get away with it. For every £ you made you have just ++++++ someone else who thought the game was straight. Donate your winnings to charity. This game leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. WOTCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT BETFAIR, WHY NOT DONATE ALL YOUR COMMISSION EARNED TO CHARITY.

Dave, can you prove that this was ****ed? I lost money on the Bologna-Lazio game a couple of weeks ago because I thought that would be a pre-arranged draw, should the circa 1.6 draw layers, should they donate their winnings to charity for taking advantage of people who thought it would finish in a pre-arranged result? I knew it was a risk and I was unfortunate that that one didn't turn out, so I'm quite happy to win back some of what I lost on this one.

As I said in other thread there, people are betting on whether or not a match is f1x3d or not. That's what it comes down to. There's something VERY wrong there.

When is Betfair going to open a market on John Cena vs Triple H?

What is there to prove? It was so obvious that it would end 1-1 and that it would be Bologna who would score the 1st goal.(because they're the home team) This has happened before with catania.

A normal match  would never have 1.36 in odds on draw before match

Here is another ****ed game, chievo-catania

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/5117501/

The first goal was not offside and there was nothing wrong with that penalty :D

Do I need to prove it was crooked. Doesnt the turnover of 2.6 million and 2.5 million on the draw prove it and the amount matched on 1.1 result. I am not aware of the previous game you mention and the relevant turnovers, so I cant comment. All I Know is that you have participated in a crooked game so that makes it OK to cheat someone else. Gambling is about a level playing field for all. This game was corrupt dont be deluded.

no price Ko was 1.01, the price was balanced between people who believed and the non believers, the risk was priced in. You took the wrong opinion for the cheap price.

Simples.

Let's be absolutely clear about this one. I, or anyone else who backed the draw in this game today, was not "cheating" anyone. Anyone who layed the draw at odds on prior to kick off knew the risks they were taking. If they knew anything about gambling they would have clocked that the odds were highly suspicious and they stood a high chance of losing their money by laying the draw. They still made the decision to do so in the hope that the game would not end in the outcome so heavily suggested by the odds.

I'm not denying that people were betting on whether the match was ****ed/pre-arranged or not as opposed to simply what they thought the outcome would be. But it's still a risk and it's certainly not "cheating".

What also I object to is BETFAIR making a profit on commission from £2.6 million turnover on a crooked game.As well as profits from the other markets.

There is a slim chance that this wasn't ****ed though it doesn't look likely. If it wasn't then it makes perfect sense that Bologna would go for it in the first half thinking a draw might not guarantee them safety then they see Atlanta were losing at half time and eased off. There was no need for either team to win in the last 30 mins as Atlanta were 2-0 down.

When I gamble I estimate whether the odds are correct 1.3 on the draw are not correct in any match. So I should not participate assuming the game is straight, so we are gambling on something that is crooked and thats alright?

Dave its over you need to let go. I lost fairly big too but now I know to never get involved when there's a chance others know something you don't. Chin up.

Not just that, but the 1-1 score was the clear favourite in the correct score market. There is not even a slight chance that this wasn't ****ed, anyone that thinks otherwise must be dumb.

Marquinos I have been betting and laying for 55 years I am a big boy and can take a loss, otherwise I would have given up years ago. I would just like to say to all out their who backed a draw at 1.5  1.4 or 1.3  You could have only taken those odds if you thought it was bent. I rest my case but I think BETFAIR HAVE A MORAL DUTY TO SUSPEND BETTING ON THESE DUBIOUS GAMES and not profit from them.

Personnally i want to see more games were the result has been predetermined, very profitable indeed :^0

David, bet 364+1 didn't have this game on their coupon. I think they had all the other games. Funny that!

Maybe corruption is just the italian way, their politics is pretty damned dodgy. I remember taking buses in italy and the only people that seemed to be paying were the tourists, the locals just jumped on and off. AND they look a bit shifty, which is proof enough in my book

DaveSussex     09 May 10 16:33 
What about the fans who have paid hard earned cash to watch this crap. Is this the way Italian football supporters are treated.
These are people who travel to support their clubs all year round.

Different philosophy Dave
The supporters are aware that long and short term mutually beneficial arrangements can be made at this time of the season and are happy with that

There is a fair chance one or both of these clubs could be in a similar relegation dodging position next year. A favour sown is a favour reaped.

Lord Loverocket Joined: 28 Jul 09
Replies: 220 09 May 10 16:43 
When is Betfair going to open a market on John Cena vs Triple H?

Soon i hope Was keeping a eye on the score in this game as i was at the Arsenal match didnt suprise me when it finished 1-1

So does anybody know what actually constitutes "suspicious betting patterns"?

Is it "suspicious" that the correct score of 1 - 1 traded at 1.4 pre-match?

Is it suspicious that 1 - 0 to either side traded at over 100 pre-match despite the fact that to achieve the 1 - 1 they had to get there via 1 - 0?

If you get kicked out of a cup competition/docked 3 points in the league for a mishap resulting in fielding an ineligible player or fined for playing an "understrength" team how can the authorities turn a blind eye when all the players involved plus both teams' management must have known the result of this game beforehand and probably had a few bob on it?

In other words, why the fvcking hell doesn't the likes of Platini actually DO SOMETHING about this important crap instead of faffing around with stuff like the 2 extra officials behind the goal?

couldn't make it up.

dirty italians

where is platini from?

France aint he?

ime asking ime not sure?

frog

Yeah hes french

"If you get kicked out of a cup competition/docked 3 points in the league for a mishap resulting in fielding an ineligible player or fined for playing an "understrength" team how can the authorities turn a blind eye when all the players involved plus both teams' management must have known the result of this game beforehand and probably had a few bob on it?"

Jim Royle. Are you not aware of the minor detail that all bets placed on games are paid out on the 90 minute result, REGARDLESS of subsequent point deductions or being thrown out of a cup competition?

Never let the facts get in the way of total bullsh1t though! 

love the bolognese women experience is vital

You are right chop.

There's me rattling on about ethics.

Forgot this was a gambling forum.

Wow...remarkable to think this game was 10 years ago. I remember it well - Bologna playing like world beaters in the first half before conceding a cheap equaliser early after the restart.

2010 really was the peak of 'silly season' in Italy - other highlights included Lecce finishing their campaign as Serie B champions courtesy of two 0-0 draws in their final two games - both of which were backed at sub-1.5 before the games - and Padova, 20th out of 22 sides having recorded 2 away wins all season, priced 1.1 to win away to AlbinoLeffe with Draw HT/Padova FT also backed heavily - cue them taking the lead, conceding an own goal on the stroke of half time and scoring a free header in the second half to miraculously record their third away win.

Nice bump. Thanks.