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10 Nov 09
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I would expect a resounding NO from Liverpool fans. What do fans of other clubs think ?
And also should Rafa be UTFR before Christmas.
I'm a United fan, as some may know. In all honesty I think this is going to be one of the best seasons for a long time :) United still well in it (red tinted glasses).
Chelsea look like they could steamroller it atm. But they'll lose a few in January (fixures at that time favour them). Have they got strength in depth
Arsenal, well what can you say, I enjoy watching them :) They could be something special in the making!! Just can't be sure if they'll stay the distance.
Liverpool don't make me p!ss
Villa ?
And also should Rafa be UTFR before Christmas.
I'm a United fan, as some may know. In all honesty I think this is going to be one of the best seasons for a long time :) United still well in it (red tinted glasses).
Chelsea look like they could steamroller it atm. But they'll lose a few in January (fixures at that time favour them). Have they got strength in depth
Arsenal, well what can you say, I enjoy watching them :) They could be something special in the making!! Just can't be sure if they'll stay the distance.
Liverpool don't make me p!ss
Villa ?
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Rafael Benitez has for the first time played down Liverpool's title dreams and asked for "realism" as the club fight to end a run of disastrous results.
Liverpool are 11 points behind leaders Chelsea following Monday night's 2-2 home draw with Birmingham.
Benitez's side have won only one of their last nine matches in all competitions, and just one of their last five in the Barclays Premier League.
It has left them with a mountain to climb if they believe they can catch Chelsea, when the more realistic target now is surely to retain their place in the top four and achieve Champions League qualification for next season.
Benitez said after the draw with the midlanders: "We have to be realistic and think what our target is now. For me it is just the next game, the next point to see whether we can climb a little higher in the table.
"Then you never know what can happen. We did win six games in a row, if we did that again everything would be different.
"The main thing now is to get players fit, and see who we have available for the next game after the international break.
"We will then wait for some months to pass and see whether we can win some games in succession. That is all I am looking at now."
Benitez has always talked of the big clubs losing more matches this season, which would allow Liverpool to keep in contact despite their nightmare form.
The Spaniard added: "People keep discussing our bad run, but previously we won six on the trot and we have beaten Manchester United.
"It is a question of keeping going. I would be really worried if we were not playing well and not winning. But I can see that we are beginning to play better, it is a question of luck now.
"Maybe people think that I am angry about all this. But when I see the players working so hard, trying to change our situation, there is nothing more to say to them, they are doing all they can.
"This is the only way to change our situation. To keep working hard and play well, and I believe we did play well against Birmingham."
Benitez has more injury problems involving Yossi Benayoun, Daniel Agger and Albert Riera, while Fernando Torres could be out for a further three weeks, which would rule him out against Manchester City and Everton in the league and the Champions League tie away to Debrecen.
He continued: "We are talking of two or three weeks out now for Fernando. The hamstrings for Riera and Benayoun could be the same and Agger has more problems with his back.
"He has worked hard in training, and we felt he would be okay for the match. But you could see that he was not right.
"The plus points are that Glen Johnson was back and playing well, while Alberto Aquilani finally got a chance to play at Anfield.
"Steven Gerrard looked okay after his groin problems, physically he was fine. We will have to see how the injury reacts but he brought us quality and passion, and I hope that we can now manage his problems better."
Birmingham boss Alex McLeish had sympathy for Benitez if not David Ngog's part in the controversial penalty equaliser, the French under-21 striker being accused of diving.
McLeish said: "Liverpool are missing key players, world-class people like Torres and Gerrard. Any team is affected when they lose their best players.
"There is not a lot of understanding in the game when you lose people like that, it is the football life managers are in and you have to accept that.
"But you must rise above the storm, I have been through the same and you have to bounce back.
"Benitez is a top manager with plenty of medals to his name. I am sure he will also bounce back."
On Ngog's plunge in the box, McLeish said: "I know it wasn't a penalty, the guy dived and got his team a penalty. He saw Lee Carsley coming in and instead of hurdling the challenge he has just gone down.
"Should it be a penalty if you don't touch somebody and make the guy fall? I don't really know, but the game will go downhill fast if we give penalties for that."
Liverpool are 11 points behind leaders Chelsea following Monday night's 2-2 home draw with Birmingham.
Benitez's side have won only one of their last nine matches in all competitions, and just one of their last five in the Barclays Premier League.
It has left them with a mountain to climb if they believe they can catch Chelsea, when the more realistic target now is surely to retain their place in the top four and achieve Champions League qualification for next season.
Benitez said after the draw with the midlanders: "We have to be realistic and think what our target is now. For me it is just the next game, the next point to see whether we can climb a little higher in the table.
"Then you never know what can happen. We did win six games in a row, if we did that again everything would be different.
"The main thing now is to get players fit, and see who we have available for the next game after the international break.
"We will then wait for some months to pass and see whether we can win some games in succession. That is all I am looking at now."
Benitez has always talked of the big clubs losing more matches this season, which would allow Liverpool to keep in contact despite their nightmare form.
The Spaniard added: "People keep discussing our bad run, but previously we won six on the trot and we have beaten Manchester United.
"It is a question of keeping going. I would be really worried if we were not playing well and not winning. But I can see that we are beginning to play better, it is a question of luck now.
"Maybe people think that I am angry about all this. But when I see the players working so hard, trying to change our situation, there is nothing more to say to them, they are doing all they can.
"This is the only way to change our situation. To keep working hard and play well, and I believe we did play well against Birmingham."
Benitez has more injury problems involving Yossi Benayoun, Daniel Agger and Albert Riera, while Fernando Torres could be out for a further three weeks, which would rule him out against Manchester City and Everton in the league and the Champions League tie away to Debrecen.
He continued: "We are talking of two or three weeks out now for Fernando. The hamstrings for Riera and Benayoun could be the same and Agger has more problems with his back.
"He has worked hard in training, and we felt he would be okay for the match. But you could see that he was not right.
"The plus points are that Glen Johnson was back and playing well, while Alberto Aquilani finally got a chance to play at Anfield.
"Steven Gerrard looked okay after his groin problems, physically he was fine. We will have to see how the injury reacts but he brought us quality and passion, and I hope that we can now manage his problems better."
Birmingham boss Alex McLeish had sympathy for Benitez if not David Ngog's part in the controversial penalty equaliser, the French under-21 striker being accused of diving.
McLeish said: "Liverpool are missing key players, world-class people like Torres and Gerrard. Any team is affected when they lose their best players.
"There is not a lot of understanding in the game when you lose people like that, it is the football life managers are in and you have to accept that.
"But you must rise above the storm, I have been through the same and you have to bounce back.
"Benitez is a top manager with plenty of medals to his name. I am sure he will also bounce back."
On Ngog's plunge in the box, McLeish said: "I know it wasn't a penalty, the guy dived and got his team a penalty. He saw Lee Carsley coming in and instead of hurdling the challenge he has just gone down.
"Should it be a penalty if you don't touch somebody and make the guy fall? I don't really know, but the game will go downhill fast if we give penalties for that."
Liverpool are out of the Title Race ! (liverpool fan)
Focus on 4th spot and Europa league. what looked to be an awful season could turn out ok.
think we will get both.
Focus on 4th spot and Europa league. what looked to be an awful season could turn out ok.
think we will get both.
No chance that Utd will better last years even never mind have their best season for some time. Liverpool look out of it would need to win a huge % of our games and I am just hoping we get top 4 and re group.
omg forgot all about your shower :^0 seriously
They aint winning it mate. could be taking someones place in the top 4. Hopefully not ours.
They aint winning it mate. could be taking someones place in the top 4. Hopefully not ours.
mr winner has tipped them, so yea thier out of it now for sure
Ernie & Bert 10 Nov 22:29
Probably, but footballs a funny old game.
Still PMSL!
Probably, but footballs a funny old game.
Still PMSL!
delz 10 Nov 22:43
Ernie & Bert 10 Nov 22:29
Probably, but footballs a funny old game.
Still PMSL!
just clocked it myself, didn't register at first read :^0
Ernie & Bert 10 Nov 22:29
Probably, but footballs a funny old game.
Still PMSL!
just clocked it myself, didn't register at first read :^0
ARE LIVERPOOL OUT OF THE TITLE RACE?
Were they actually in it to start with???????????
Were they actually in it to start with???????????
They were never in it to start with. Only mugs back Liverpool every year.
hi carrumbah 10 Nov 22:27
I would expect a resounding NO from Liverpool fans. What do fans of other clubs think ?
And also should Rafa be UTFR before Christmas.
I'm a United fan, as some may know. In all honesty I think this is going to be one of the best seasons for a long time United still well in it (red tinted glasses).
Chelsea look like they could steamroller it atm. But they'll lose a few in January (fixures at that time favour them). Have they got strength in depth
Arsenal, well what can you say, I enjoy watching them They could be something special in the making!! Just can't be sure if they'll stay the distance.
Liverpool don't make me p!ss
Villa ?
was after a balanced view lads :)
I would expect a resounding NO from Liverpool fans. What do fans of other clubs think ?
And also should Rafa be UTFR before Christmas.
I'm a United fan, as some may know. In all honesty I think this is going to be one of the best seasons for a long time United still well in it (red tinted glasses).
Chelsea look like they could steamroller it atm. But they'll lose a few in January (fixures at that time favour them). Have they got strength in depth
Arsenal, well what can you say, I enjoy watching them They could be something special in the making!! Just can't be sure if they'll stay the distance.
Liverpool don't make me p!ss
Villa ?
was after a balanced view lads :)
Lozzy 10 Nov 23:03
They were never in it to start with. Only mugs back Liverpool every year.
Sad but true. Top 4 slot in danger.
They were never in it to start with. Only mugs back Liverpool every year.
Sad but true. Top 4 slot in danger.
I can see why Liverpool were backed this year where as I am usually a pessimist I backed them myself. It all look primed with the way we finished last year and Utd losing their Star player. Chelsea look to have brought in a good manager though and Arsenal have found form again. I think the winning tally will be less than last year but we've dropped too many points already unless we go on a freak run.
wtf is rafa obsessed with the media?,gives more interviews than jordan ffs stop it
Totally Out of it.
They would have to make 6 points up on united , same with arsenal (with a game less) and 11 with chelsea.
Never is that happening not getting ahead of all 3.
They were the best team for me last year though and would be expect them to comfortable make top 4.......and think they are a very good bet for fa cup
They would have to make 6 points up on united , same with arsenal (with a game less) and 11 with chelsea.
Never is that happening not getting ahead of all 3.
They were the best team for me last year though and would be expect them to comfortable make top 4.......and think they are a very good bet for fa cup
Why are United fans still obbessing over Liverpool ? We are doing poorly and you lot are still obbessing over us loving it :D
I think its going to be hard to catch chelsea, but should pass te rest and chase them home, there are no real dangers in front, (arsenal apart) but just not sure the will see it through, so in all honesty it looks like runners up again
runners-up! LOL!
4th place should be the limit of their ambitions this season and personally think City will push them most, if not all the way
4th place should be the limit of their ambitions this season and personally think City will push them most, if not all the way
City will spend big in January. Their number one priority is to bring in a decent centre-back to replace Lescott, who is shít. If they do that, Liverpool won't come close to the top four - especially if they get distracted by the Europa League campaign.
Bring the thread up at the end of the season, and I will happily admit I was wrong, sometimes people cant see the wood for the trees, might well prove to be me,
Max and Paddy, city spending big doesn't mean they will bring in good players.
No, mav, but they're in contention for the top four with Joleon Lescott in the side.
Imagine how good they'd be if they could sign any centre-back and drop Lescott :^0
Imagine how good they'd be if they could sign any centre-back and drop Lescott :^0
Everton fans pretending they think Lescott is sh1te now are they? brilliant stuff.
No - chelsea are the team to catch but anyone who can put a run of 10 wins together on the trot will be in the title race , and the only teams i think are capable of doing this are chelsea , utd , arsenal and yes , liverpool.
Forget Citeh - they cant even go on a one match streak at the moment.
Forget Citeh - they cant even go on a one match streak at the moment.
chelsea will strengthen after having the ban suspended and will spend in a big way in case their appeal fails. think the 1.97 available is a cracking bet, just don't wanna wait 6 moon for a pay-out
Chelsea will spend big and buy who ? How many quality players move in January ?
it's logical. they've a suspension hanging over their heads from buying in the transfer window for 2 years so it makes sense to stock up in case their appeal fails HTH
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