Does anyone here stiil bet on the match betting?

Match Odds for pros, Overs for show.

I play the match odds and i do alright. Far from being a pro but i make a decent enough second income.

Rarely touch them. Have to be very confident if so.

i could predict results a few months back, but lately you've got no chance imo

unless you guess

if it was predictable we might as well put the money in FOBTS

followers of the form lately are getting stung quite a lot i think, maybe not tonight as much as liverpool are not exactly in form but battered them and drew, been a few like that in the last month

always go for value and you can profit

Reading against leicester comes to mind, battered them lost 1-0

I actually backed Leicester DRAW NO BET in that game but i know what your saying mate.

i like to follow the form and in most cases this team will be fav's, not saying you should back every fav but just lately teams dont play the same game twice in a row imo so very hard?

issall abaart ve IMPLAY

ronnie rosenthal 09 Nov 22:39
always go for value and you can profit

Good advice. :)

Care to expand, though? It's finding the value that's the tricky bit. How do you do it?

Tarrot cards?

everton lost 5-0, 0-2, west ham draw against arsenal 2-2 and win there first at home all season then what happens everton beat west ham at upton park, very hard thinking of not doing match betting until see some consistency

Don't bet on it because it's predictable.

just 1 of many in last few weeks^^^

im just saying i used to bet on the winning team a lot more, due to the form teams turning up?

were liverpool a form team?

i said earlier not so much tonights match but they should of won so would of lost if played in play which i didnt :)

People don't half talk a lot of rubbish on this forum. If anyone really thinks that the Prem matches coming up will bring more "unpredictable" outcomes, then you can make lots of money by laying the favourite teams and the favourite score lines. So why wait until it becomes more "predictable"?

Match odds is the only market I play. It has been pretty tough this season compared to the last couple of years and I'm basically level pegging going from the start of the season (for comparision I had doubled my bank in the same period last year and ended the season with six times what I started).

I'm going to stick with it but my confidence has been affected a fair bit I think, my head was telling me to lay Liverpool tonight but I wimped out because of recent losses and was scared I was chasing.

'Form' is a Myth

A team which keeps the same basic starting 11 can play well or badly at anytime . Overall they will play to the average performance level their abilty would indicate they are capable of .

Sometimes they will 'play above themselves' , other times they will perform well below par , wether they are 4 games unbeaten or have lost their last 4 gives no indication of wether they will play well or badly in the 5th match.

tobermory 09 Nov 22:53
'Form' is a Myth

A team which keeps the same basic starting 11 can play well or badly at anytime . Overall they will play to the average performance level their abilty would indicate they are capable of .

Sometimes they will 'play above themselves' , other times they will perform well below par , wether they are 4 games unbeaten or have lost their last 4 gives no indication of wether they will play well or badly in the 5th match.

Erm, I understand your point, but how is is that we can gauge their "average performance level" and their "ability". Isn't it by their past form?

would it be a guess then if i picked a team thats lost say 5 on the spin, would i just be hoping and praying they turn up a better team on the day?

Basically, it becomes an argument about how far back we take the form we take into consideration.

Yes keliwah.

But it is their 'form' over the last 30-50 games* which tells you how good they are.

I don't like the word Form as people who use it are ususally only thinking of the last few weeks, and as i said that is misleading as to abilty .I mean on that basis Fulham are better than Real Madrid.

*Obviously you adjust that to some ectent depending on how many players have left/joined the club , if the changes have made a difference to the abilty of the team.

keliwah 09 Nov 22:56

Erm, I understand your point, but how is is that we can gauge their "average performance level" and their "ability". Isn't it by their past form?

Their past form as in their performances, too many people look at results alone. Chelsea beat United at the weekend but if you use let that result effect your betting selection regarding either of those teams then you are a fool as it was pure luck and poor officiating that decided the result.

knowing form on teams in europe and english leagues is vital, and its what gives you an edge, is your knowledge of current form, form is fleeting thing that comes and goes, thats why football is funny old game because games dont always go to form. exmaple ac milan bang in form now won on weekend 2-1 away, 2nd in league table in italy, bordeaux top of league in france, bordeaux sketchy form at moment.................. lost on weekend 2-0 away, bordeaux 13th in form table.

Hardly ever get involved in this market unless it's before kick off or one team is up by 2 goals +

Any other time I avoid and look at other markets.

Yes, so true, which is why watching the matches is so important. Tonight's match result is a complete freak result given the run of play. Just because it finished a draw, it doesn't mean that the draw at 4.9 was good value.

omg ref wtf!?!

I agree that some teams may be in a false position as they scrape several wins in games they played poorly in, and by watching them you can see the evidence for this.

eg West Ham finished 7th or 8th last year , but i thought they were dreadful most times i watched them , and only rated them slightly better than the sides who went down , so chose them for relegation this season.

95% of my bets are done before the game and as tobermory said we can read the form book and do the all the research we like but it doesn't mean were going to win. You can still make it pay on match betting though. It comes down to how good your judgement is and luck.