5 in midfield,foul,foul,foul,defend ,defend ,defend .Fletcher kicking,Vidic wrestling ,surrounding the ref (Scholes,Rooney and Giggs) ,they dont attack and play free flowing football v Chelsea ,Berbatov up front alone,Rooney marking Ashley Cole,7 booked last season and verbally abusing a groundsman. 2-0 Chelsea.
St. Mirren (19741978) Scottish First Division: 1976-77 Aberdeen (19781986) Scottish Premier Division: 197980, 198384, 198485 Scottish Cup: 198182, 198283, 198384, 198586 Scottish League Cup: 198586 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 198283 UEFA Super Cup: 1983 Manchester United (1986) Premier League: 199293, 199394, 199596, 199697, 199899, 19992000, 200001, 200203, 200607, 200708, 200809 FA Cup: 198990, 199394, 199596, 199899, 200304 League Cup: 199192, 200506, 200809 FA Charity/Community Shield: 1990,[49] 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008 UEFA Champions League: 199899, 200708 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 199091 UEFA Super Cup: 1991 Intercontinental Cup: 1999 FIFA Club World Cup: 2008 Individual Football Writers' Association Tribute Award: 1996 Mussabini Medal: 1999 UEFA Champions League Manager of the Year: 199899 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 1999 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Team Award: 1999 IFFHS Club Coach of the Year: 1999 LMA Manager of the Decade: 1990s Laureus World Sports Award for Team of the Year: 2000 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Lifetime Achievement Award: 2001 English Football Hall of Fame: 2002 Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1999, 2007 Professional Footballers' Association Merit Award: 2007 UEFA Team of the Year: 2007, 2008 Premier League Manager of the Year: 199394, 199596, 199697, 199899, 199900, 200203, 200607, 200708, 2008-09 Premier League Manager of the Month: August 1993, October 1994, February 1996, March 1996, February 1997, October 1997, January 1999, April 1999, August 1999, March 2000, April 2000, February 2001, April 2003, December 2003, February 2005, March 2006, August 2006, October 2006, February 2007, January 2008, March 2008, January 2009, April 2009, September 2009 LMA Manager of the Year: 199899, 200708 World Soccer Magazine World Manager of the Year: 1993, 1999, 2007, 2008 Orders and special awards Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE): 1983 Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE): 1995 Knight Bachelor: 1999
:) another one jealous of sir alex-here we go!St. Mirren (19741978)Scottish First Division: 1976-77Aberdeen (19781986)Scottish Premier Division: 197980, 198384, 198485Scottish Cup: 198182, 198283, 198384, 198586Scottish League Cup: 198586UEFA Cup Win
this is surely the first time in ages that this fixture can be looked at and the conclusion drawn that on the field, on curent form, one team is superior in all three departments.
i can't see anything but a chelsea win.
and past experience tells me that's when i need to start worrying.
this is surely the first time in ages that this fixture can be looked at and the conclusion drawn that on the field, on curent form, one team is superior in all three departments.i can't see anything but a chelsea win.and past experience tells me th
Martin Atkinson to referee Chelsea v Manchester United clash Martin Atkinson, subject of past criticisms from Sir Alex Ferguson, will referee Manchester Uniteds Premier League trip to Chelsea on Sunday.
By John Ley Published: 10:55PM GMT 04 Nov 2009
In charge: Martin Atkinson will referee the Chelsea v Manchester United match on Sunday Photo: GETTY IMAGES Ferguson has admitted a charge of improper conduct for his comments on referee Alan Wileys fitness recently and could face a fine or a touchline ban from the Football Association.
In March 2008, the manager was given a severe warning by the FA after criticising Atkinson and the Premier League head of referees, Keith Hackett, after United lost 1-0 to Portsmouth.
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Martin Atkinson to referee Chelsea v Manchester United clashMartin Atkinson, subject of past criticisms from Sir Alex Ferguson, will referee Manchester Uniteds Premier League trip to Chelsea on Sunday. By John LeyPublished: 10:55PM GMT 04 Nov 2009 I
It is another thing in Chelsea,s favour,his hold on refs has gone,he is on the retreat . We can now have an even playing field. As Jose said "when the ball is 2 yards over the line and a goal is not given ,you should never again criticise officials" Funny he seemed happy with that decision ;) .
It is another thing in Chelsea,s favour,his hold on refs has gone,he is on the retreat . We can now have an even playing field. As Jose said "when the ball is 2 yards over the line and a goal is not given ,you should never again criticise officials"
Historically the better team - United (Chelsea have a LONG way to go to even begin to claim this)
Better at this very moment in time - Chelsea
A lot can change over a season though.
For me it isn't even a point for debateHistorically the better team - United (Chelsea have a LONG way to go to even begin to claim this)Better at this very moment in time - ChelseaA lot can change over a season though.
how are previous results that were [chelsea much better at the bridge than man u of late anyway] achieved with a better team be considered evidence, apart from people with a very loose grasp of logic?
how are previous results that were [chelsea much better at the bridge than man u of late anyway] achieved with a better team be considered evidence, apart from people with a very loose grasp of logic?
he seems to have that effect on whatever thread he soils.
melymoss 06 Nov 20:47 thread has gone haywire? =======================================only since the forum imbicile appeared.he seems to have that effect on whatever thread he soils.
manu have beat Chelsea before under similiar circumstances when the all conquering Mourinho was in charge. 1-0 i think at OT, fletcher. but tomorrow is different in the sense that the MU defence is weak without Rio & Vidic and MUs midfield is so poor atm. Nani is the worst MU winger I've seen for 15 years. Fergie will get a reaction but he can't change the fact that the Chelsea midfield will dominate play.
1-0 or 2-0.
manu have beat Chelsea before under similiar circumstances when the all conquering Mourinho was in charge. 1-0 i think at OT, fletcher. but tomorrow is different in the sense that the MU defence is weak without Rio & Vidic and MUs midfield is so poo
he seems to have that effect on whatever thread he soils.
Since the 2nd post in the thread then :^0
MUG.....fail.
mexicano 06 Nov 20:49only since the forum imbicile appeared.he seems to have that effect on whatever thread he soils.Since the 2nd post in the thread then :^0MUG.....fail.
now that you've acknowledged that you know it's you who's the forum imbicile, trot along like a nice fellow and leave us th have a decent discussion with the reasonable man u fans.
now that you've acknowledged that you know it's you who's the forum imbicile, trot along like a nice fellow and leave us th have a decent discussion with the reasonable man u fans.
sorry i exposed you for being clueless mex after you claimed fletcher wasnt a match winner :^0
seems to have upset you a bit. I reckon you prob like to think you know a bit about the game. lol
sorry i exposed you for being clueless mex after you claimed fletcher wasnt a match winner :^0seems to have upset you a bit. I reckon you prob like to think you know a bit about the game. lol
once again roy you show what a berk you are. i never said that at all.what i actually said [and i know you'll troll through the freds being the sad berk that you are] is that he [along with barry] are not the sort of players that tend do things that change the course of the game] which to anybody who knows anything about the game [unfortunatly that excludes you mate] knaw are differn't things.
now there's no point in you toddling off ,cos once again your appearance has meant that most of the people who had something to say, and maybe warrented a debate have feked off.
once again roy you show what a berk you are. i never said that at all.what i actually said [and i know you'll troll through the freds being the sad berk that you are] is that he [along with barry] are not the sort of players that tend do things that
I see mex is back to doing what he does best - accusing anyone who dares say that SAF is not the root of all evil as backing him without consideration.
He forgets that he actually fails to make a credible point and is in fact blindly criticising us all with no logic himself.
What a joke :)
I see mex is back to doing what he does best - accusing anyone who dares say that SAF is not the root of all evil as backing him without consideration.He forgets that he actually fails to make a credible point and is in fact blindly criticising us al
sorry to any chelsea or liverpool fans on this thread but i wont be ** scared of going to stamford bridge with that side.. we may lose, draw or win but its not blind faith, we got beaten by a poor liverpool side because we were overrun in midfield (carrick and scholes together not mobile enough in my opinion) ... valenica is gettin better and giggs will do the job as per...
stop worrying about united... fergie always gets it right in the end..
we are manchester united and dont fear anyone
vdsnevillebrownevansevravalenciaandersoncarrickfletchergiggsrooneysorry to any chelsea or liverpool fans on this thread but i wont be ** scared of going to stamford bridge with that side.. we may lose, draw or win but its not blind faith, we got beat
I know its only the Charity Shield but there certainly wasnt much in the game at Wembley. Seem to recall Chelsea resorting to dirty tactics (elbowing evra) in order to score a goal as well. And that was just a friendly. God knows what theyll do on Sunday to win. I dont think United will mind coming into the game as underdogs, and Ive got a feeling Rooney will be on a high after just becoming a dad. Can see a 1-1. This is what I think Fergie will opt for...
VDS
OShea Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia Carrick Fletcher Anderson Giggs
Rooney
I know its only the Charity Shield but there certainly wasnt much in the game at Wembley. Seem to recall Chelsea resorting to dirty tactics (elbowing evra) in order to score a goal as well. And that was just a friendly. God knows what theyll do on Su
the drog wont like it when wes goes right down the back of his ankles imo..
i like that everyone is writing off united :) especially the scousers as the only thing they can win this season of any note is the ABU title :)
the drog wont like it when wes goes right down the back of his ankles imo..i like that everyone is writing off united :) especially the scousers as the only thing they can win this season of any note is the ABU title :)
citing the charity shield is hardly the right game to draw comparisons with, as the utd team is somewhat weaker at the mo'. and hoping that his new status as a daddie will inspire utd to overcome the odds :)..well.
as i said earlier.
blind faith..mixed up with a bit of hope.
but i reckon we'll see a bit o' charity from the makeshift utd back four.
off to gawf now.
have a nice day :)
citing the charity shield is hardly the right game to draw comparisons with, as the utd team is somewhat weaker at the mo'. and hoping that his new status as a daddie will inspire utd to overcome the odds :)..well.as i said earlier.blind faith..mixed
B Foster 4 - J OShea 6 R Ferdinand 7 J Evans 7 P Evra 7 - Park Ji Sung 6 D Fletcher 7 M Carrick 6 Nani 7 - D Berbatov 5 W Rooney 7.
Id say the possible team on Sunday will be stronger than this one. Its certaintly no weaker
team v Chelsea in the charity shield...B Foster 4 - J OShea 6 R Ferdinand 7 J Evans 7 P Evra 7 - Park Ji Sung 6 D Fletcher 7 M Carrick 6 Nani 7 - D Berbatov 5 W Rooney 7.Id say the possible team on Sunday will be stronger than this one. Its certaintl
I think Rooney off and 2-0 Chelsea could be the bet ;) . SFL and Anelka to score and take advantage of Utd 's soft centre . Rooney will not get a kick and will lose it. having 5 in midfield will not be safety in numbers for Utd.
I think Rooney off and 2-0 Chelsea could be the bet ;) . SFL and Anelka to score and take advantage of Utd 's soft centre . Rooney will not get a kick and will lose it. having 5 in midfield will not be safety in numbers for Utd.
SAF bound to use the tried and tested tactic of 78 minutes injury time imo.
big-game-player 07 Nov 00:17we are manchester united and dont fear anyone:^0Life turned out well for you then.SAF bound to use the tried and tested tactic of 78 minutes injury time imo.
I like the Brown/Rapist (allegedly) match winning centre back combo straw the best :)
Oh isn't shrood mug a naughty boy accusing someone of being a rapist on the internet.
I bet he does wash behind his ears either.
My new hero.
shrood mug 07 Nov 10:11I like the Brown/Rapist (allegedly) match winning centre back combo straw the best :)Oh isn't shrood mug a naughty boy accusing someone of being a rapist on the internet.I bet he does wash behind his ears either.
He was cleared after initially being arrested by police on alleged rape charges. I was merely stating a fact sunshine.
What are your thoughts on Berbatov still treating his father like a hero despite the fact he IS a rapist?
Though I must say I find the irony in you of all people accusing someone of being a childish internet warrior thoroughly delicious :)
Accusing? He was cleared after initially being arrested by police on alleged rape charges. I was merely stating a fact sunshine. What are your thoughts on Berbatov still treating his father like a hero despite the fact he IS a rapist? Though I must
I would imagine it will be more or less the same back 5 as the one that started the 3-0 at OT. Which Ferdinand also missed through injury. Neville started that game so maybe OShea will take that spot.
That result seems to have been ignored as an abberation.
Chelsea in great form v Blackburn and Bolton in recent weeks, the losses at Villa and Wigan also deemed to be abberations I suppose.
I think the odds are fair and make Chelsea favourites but to listen to some on here you'd think they were playing a team they'd actually managed to beat in the last 3 or 4 matches.
Lot's of talk of a weakened defence.I would imagine it will be more or less the same back 5 as the one that started the 3-0 at OT. Which Ferdinand also missed through injury. Neville started that game so maybe OShea will take that spot.That result se
1.01 Landed,never agree with Wenger but all Fletcher does is run around fouling and arguing with the ref,champagne moment Joey Cole kicked Fletcher back and Fletcher took umbrage and give him a slap . It couldnt be a spectacle with the way Utd play, 3 points on the way to bringing it back home though. 1 Hour of the game wasted with Deco on the pitch, has the work rate of a Koala and left us out numbered in midfield . JT get in thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee son :^0 :^0 :^0 . Valencia did the Rooney job on Ashley Cole . Ref did well despite the usual Utd pressure put on him. The FA can ban Fergie now,WTF are they waiting for ? .
1.01 Landed,never agree with Wenger but all Fletcher does is run around fouling and arguing with the ref,champagne moment Joey Cole kicked Fletcher back and Fletcher took umbrage and give him a slap . It couldnt be a spectacle with the way Utd play,
I thought Utd were attack,attack,attack,not in West London apparently , its the same every year 10 behind the ball 1 up front foul and argue ,worse then the scousers .
I thought Utd were attack,attack,attack,not in West London apparently , its the same every year 10 behind the ball 1 up front foul and argue ,worse then the scousers .