who is winning

Yep..  Played for 1hr 50 mins...  up&down but made small proffit.  then bang account all done in a few goes.  just what ever was betting lost.   Just seems strange?!?!?  Didn't have as many Ups in a row as losses.... and was mainly laying so wld have expected it. Fix?

Get a life you lot. 
So every time you play and lose it's fixed is it?
What a laugh.

For every bet you make i.e back - someone lays and vice versa, So if you loose, someone else wins. Betfair just take a commission. I don't get this fixed stuff - its gambling. On a fruit machine do you expect to win each spin. As with all gambling the longer you play, the greater the chance you will lose (as the odds are always slightly against you). Juts treat it like gambling, Get in and get out when ahead, stick to a max stake each session and never chase losses. Best Regards J,

cbj,Betfair acknowledge that they have money in the Markets.All the more reason for them to fix it.I myself believe there fixed after losing a hell ov alot of money to wht i could only describe as "remarkable" cards constantly going against me.Am not gunna babble on as av done all my moanin in the past.Just wanted to make the point about Betfair avin money in the Markets.Good luck :-)

It's much easier to believe that the games are 'fixed' than to figure out a way to win. I'd be interested to know exactly what you mean by 'fixed'; for most people I suspect that this simply means that an event occurs that they had not expected and that cost them money. The game ceases to be fixed, of course, when you win, for no-one would countenance the idea that the games would be fixed in the punters favour.

I think there are two sensible ways to approach these games, either as a frivolous and harmless way to spend some time trying to get a few lucky punts, mebbe even be lucky enough to have a couple of quid on a 512/1 shot when it comes up. Or to try and determine and anticipate short term patterns and back your judgement accordingly and perhaps even profitably. But to keep  banging on about them being fixed and to offer no credible evidence other than a losing bet is rather dull it seems to me. The games fully comply wiht the terms and conditions of the licensing authority and no-one has ever shown this to not be the case.

Play them for big money and see for yourself Sedgefield.There`s no way of ever "proving" there fixed but,from a long term and very very costly experiance,i believe they are.To many things go against you time and time again in big stake games."Unbelievable" to be honest.If you don`t believe them to be fixed and your happy to be playing them then good luck

There isn't a way that you can possibly win with these games in the long run.
No system can do it.
The odds do not allow it.
Whether they are fixed is another thing.
I honestly think they're just for fun.
Enjoy!!!!! (losing your money)

not sure about the enjoy bit pony, im starting to get sick of it really lol...................... gee i shoudnt laugh , it aint that funny .

as somebody has stated, start with whatever you want to risk, i.e  £100,  set a target i.e £50  once reached stop. its the only way to win on the games,  another tip is ALWAYS COVER YOUR BETS. i.e  you have a tenner on hand one @  4.5 u hit and hand 1 goes fav,  always lay it to at least your stake back, if not profit on all hands.

why don't you guys talk about a possiable winning system eg everytime one of the virtual players in exchange blackjack comes up with 21 you lay the dealer

You must be fking joking mate - lay the DWTA at those odds?
What a laugh.

works for me whever one of the players gets 20 or 21 points lay the dealer i've been useing 2 pound stakes and made 80 quid in 2 days plaing for 2 hours not a bad start will see how things go another thing i do is if one of the players gets 14 or 15 points then i lay them they often go bust.

It just takes one or two bullets and you'll lose all your profit and then some.  The liabilities are just too high.

when laying the players who get 14 or 15 points useing a 2 pound stake your average liability will be 5- 7 pounds not exactly a bank breaker do i lose hands of course just keep on not increaing your stake and with time you will make money paper trade it see what you think.