There is absolutely no way these games can be fixed and I'll tell you why
under various ids ive lost more than £100,000 on the xchanges in the last 6months ...but Ive won a lot more than a £100,000 (and lost that too through sheer greed!)


on one day I went from 12k down to 2k then back up to 20k on xbj & xpoker, so how can they possibly be fixed? its impossible.ok I promptly lost the lot getting greedy.
another day lost 10k on a single bj game, stupidly chasing
I knew the risks and dived in anyway


the hardest thing is to face up to one's own greed and stupidity
the easiest thing is to blame Betfair

and I thought I had a gambling problem putting £50 on a game of football.............fknell

FAFH...I would bet the dead heat on this chap being an equal combination of both! ;-)

Your hero Steve ?

XGAMESAREFIXED 25 Jan 15:46
Am sure ye av.Your hilairious.HA HA HA HA HA HA my sides split every time you post

Sorry about your sides buddy,I am just a funny b0stard sometimes,I cant help it,sorry. Anyway good luck you easily amused moron, hahahaha,just joking buddy.

Bamdebam etc
So you think I'm jealous of losers then ?
That's an interesting concept.
Actualy I would be jealous of a winner or two tbh.

to steve bywaters, if u think losing 20K is smart then u have a long way to go, and to Bamdebam u say "so what if people lose lots of money" well why the hell u on here moaning about it, get a life!

LOST 20K IN A WEEK AND.................................

I am still laughing , lol.

Not really if you think about it.
The poster obviously is a complete** for advertising his stupidity on here in the first place.
To try to disguise his post as some sort of proof that the games are straight is an insult to our collective intelligence.
BF will always love this type of idiotic, out of control gambler.
They will always shoot themselves in the foot without any outside interference required ever.
The really disturbing thing though is that apparently some on here appear to have some sort of empathy with him/her.
Now that really is sad and not funny in the slightest.

Not good enough Celt.
Must try harder.

Won 20k last week
Games are sooo good!

Bruce, how much did you lose the week before?

You guys ever been to a Casino.... they're in business cos life sucks !!!

if you had 20 grand,why are you on here trying to win more.if i had that much,i would be elsewhere squandering it lol.

I think they are great too.
As long as you don't play them.
I haven't touched them for about 2 months and never will again.
Never had so much money.
Never felt cleaner.
Best decision I've made for a long long time.

Indeed............cheers.

They must be **** to catch out the pros.
Otherwise they'ld take it to the cleaners, everytime.

No need to fix a 101% market.  Its mathematically impossible for anyone to "take it to the cleaners".

What if you want more than 1%?

Recycle your stake 100 times and on average the house will take it all - there isn't any "more than" that for them to have.

Besides, if people are queueing outside your shop to spunk their life savings away, you don't employ someone to mug them on the way in

I will add my tuppance to the debate.Betfair has no need to rig the games it makes money regardless,why jeaperdise it.
If your losing on the games and it upsets you dont play them.
Why come on the forum bleeting over loses?
Its took me all my life trying to find how to win gambling.
I found the solution three years ago.
Obviously im not going to divulge it.
There is no magic formula and no substitute for hard work.
The answer for winning is to get an edge,however small.....then your on your way.
Moaning doesnt wash with me.

Incase anybody is interested in a brief live chat I had on the matter: 

Marcus: Hello welcome to Betfair you are chatting with Marcus. How can I help?
Lee Tyler: Hi Marcus, I just emailed an old Betfair help address and received the auto response confirming it was out of use. May I copy and paste the email to you rather than re-typing my query?
Marcus: Hello there Lee, good afternoon to you.
Marcus: Sure you can do so I'll do my best to help.
Lee Tyler: Hello,

I am a long term customer of Betfair and I am writing to ask a couple of questions about your exchange games and in particular your Hi-Lo game (although I assume there is a similar model with all the games).

First of all, is ALL of the money involved in the Hi-Lo game that of Betfair customers? That is to say, is there any of Betfair's or Betfair's affiliates money involved in the market?

Further, the result of any "turn of the card", is this 100% entirely at random, completely irrespective of the weight of money to be gained or lost by any party involved in the market and irrespective of time of day or night?

Thank you in advance for this information, as I'm sure you will understand I'll be more comfortable risking money on a market that I fully understand.

Lee Tyler.
Marcus: That's not a problem Lee, I can answer your questions here.
Lee Tyler: Great thank you
Marcus: So yes in the Exchange games you are playing against other player not against betfair, and there are no affiliates asscosiated with the games what so ever.
Marcus: All our games use a Random Number Generator and any Random Card that needs to be chosen or picked is done using this system.
Lee Tyler: Ok cool, so with that in mind, the same card would be drawn irrespective of whether there was 50p or £500,000 to be gained or lost on a card?
Marcus: That's right the weight of the money does not make a difference.
Lee Tyler: Ok thats great, that's all I needed to know really so thanks for your help