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Robbie Green says he is going for definite after Lakeside
Robbie has signed to The Sportsman Management Company Ltd.
Stable includes Kim & Ronny Huybrechts, Young Belgium sensation Demitri Van De Bergh, Jelle Klaasen, and more.
http://www.thesmcltd.com/our-players/robbie-green/
Stable includes Kim & Ronny Huybrechts, Young Belgium sensation Demitri Van De Bergh, Jelle Klaasen, and more.
http://www.thesmcltd.com/our-players/robbie-green/
Which is worse to intake - can of special brew, or can of piss?
Both should be banned.
Both should be banned.
Ive heard that even if he wins and is offered a Tour Card Adams will turn it down and stay.
The BDO has lifted all bans.
Therefore any playing wishing to enter Q School is free to do so.
Those who do not gain a tour card with the PDC are free to return to the BDO fold,
(and still play in the 8 PDC Challenge Tour Events).
What's to lose? It's a Win Win situation for all BDO players.
P.S. The last name on the current list of Q School entries- Dennis Priestley
Therefore any playing wishing to enter Q School is free to do so.
Those who do not gain a tour card with the PDC are free to return to the BDO fold,
(and still play in the 8 PDC Challenge Tour Events).
What's to lose? It's a Win Win situation for all BDO players.
P.S. The last name on the current list of Q School entries- Dennis Priestley
Maybe his days playing darts are the ones he enjoys most Grant. It's hardly hod carrying in sub zero temperatures is it.
too many are simply not good enough and lack confidence to go to pdc
90 too low an average to win anything in pdc comps
money for old rope top 4 or 5 in bdo
bunting was always good enough to go
Robbie green.......not so sure.......but maybe.......
jan dekker would really struggle........
90 too low an average to win anything in pdc comps
money for old rope top 4 or 5 in bdo
bunting was always good enough to go
Robbie green.......not so sure.......but maybe.......
jan dekker would really struggle........
This Smith fella could get into the worlds via the regional qualifiers easy enough imo.
Many players can run up a sequence of 16/17 darts per leg, then you run into an Anderson or van gerwen and you know the race to 6 legs in a pro tour event will go tits up. The draw kills players at times.
A quick aside...Heydon went to Vegas and was chasing the last remaining spot to qualify for the world matchplay. He only needed to win one match to guarantee qualification. In both tournies he got drawn against Phil Taylor. Talk about bad luck of the draw.
At one point Taylor came close to forfeiting the match as Pip was screaming so hard for her man. Hahaha
A quick aside...Heydon went to Vegas and was chasing the last remaining spot to qualify for the world matchplay. He only needed to win one match to guarantee qualification. In both tournies he got drawn against Phil Taylor. Talk about bad luck of the draw.
At one point Taylor came close to forfeiting the match as Pip was screaming so hard for her man. Hahaha
robbie green would be making a big mistake going to pdc
you need bottle robbie-and dont just give in
might help you if you put your missus on mute
cant help that.....
you need bottle robbie-and dont just give in
might help you if you put your missus on mute
cant help that.....
on what ive seen of durant
if he can settle the nerves
just maybe he could give it a go in pdc
nice throw-not a lot can go wrong with it....
if he can settle the nerves
just maybe he could give it a go in pdc
nice throw-not a lot can go wrong with it....
Non of the bdo guys would cut it in the pdc now.
Norris , mitchel, kong, durant and wilson are all not good enough.
They would make it into the top 32 at best after the two full years on the circuit.
Adams would have raised his game had he went a few years ago but is too old now for a full circuit.
In his prime he would have been a top 6 player perhaps.
Waites should have went about 3 years ago and might have lost his chance now.
He should still take the plunge and hope that the change revitalises him.
At his best he would make it into the top 10 in time
O shea might have raised his game as he always played well with a good athmosphere but he too has lost his chance.
Decker is probably the best hope now as he is a decent player ,is young and arrogant, loves the stage and is finished his studies i think so will have more time to devote to it.
He could blossom and become a top 16 player in a few years.
The downside would be i would imagine the pdc crowds wouldnt take to him and savage him .
Norris , mitchel, kong, durant and wilson are all not good enough.
They would make it into the top 32 at best after the two full years on the circuit.
Adams would have raised his game had he went a few years ago but is too old now for a full circuit.
In his prime he would have been a top 6 player perhaps.
Waites should have went about 3 years ago and might have lost his chance now.
He should still take the plunge and hope that the change revitalises him.
At his best he would make it into the top 10 in time
O shea might have raised his game as he always played well with a good athmosphere but he too has lost his chance.
Decker is probably the best hope now as he is a decent player ,is young and arrogant, loves the stage and is finished his studies i think so will have more time to devote to it.
He could blossom and become a top 16 player in a few years.
The downside would be i would imagine the pdc crowds wouldnt take to him and savage him .
That's utter nonsense.
92.83 - Tournament Average PDC.
88.10 - Tournament Average BDO.
Not as big a difference as many would have you believe.
Of those you mentioned Mitchell, Adams, Durrant, Green all averaged higher than the PDC (as did others).
92.83 - Tournament Average PDC.
88.10 - Tournament Average BDO.
Not as big a difference as many would have you believe.
Of those you mentioned Mitchell, Adams, Durrant, Green all averaged higher than the PDC (as did others).
I think all 4 would do well in the PDC. The likes of Mitchell would probably never be world champion, but he would still earn far more than he does in the BDO. Whatever he did in the PDC, he can always call himself a world champion now.
Some players improve, some get worse. Impossible to say. If Mitchell can change the way his darts enter the board, he'll get far less ricochets away from the t20 target. His finishing and single dart shooting is top class.
My instinct tells me James Wilson has the most potential.
My instinct tells me James Wilson has the most potential.
all those players have a chance in the pdc, wont be easy as dog eat dog but these players can compete with likes of andy smith, ronnie baxter,wayne jones etc.. all players scrapping around the top 32 point.
fwiw Mitchell would be bonkers to switch imo. Hes not quite got the game Bunting has who is a genuine top 10 pdc player(where the real money is). He could perhaps switch and scrap out a reasonable living but would imagine being World champ going to get him some better backing in bdo.. can add bit more for exhibition fees too.
He should stick with BDO as a big fish in small pond.
He should stick with BDO as a big fish in small pond.
If Mitchell stays he could win several Lakesides assuming it continues.
Qualifying School - Day One - 19 Jan 2012
Winners get PDC Tour Card
Losers - 9 Ranking Points
Richie Howson 6-2 Mareno Michels
Andrew Cornwall 6-3 Jeff Smith
Darren Whittingham 6-4 Matthew Edgar
Tony West 6-4 Keegan Brown
Winners get PDC Tour Card
Losers - 9 Ranking Points
Richie Howson 6-2 Mareno Michels
Andrew Cornwall 6-3 Jeff Smith
Darren Whittingham 6-4 Matthew Edgar
Tony West 6-4 Keegan Brown
green wilson norris and dekker at q school today apparently
Didn't you say the same about Van De Pas this time last year?
Suppose it depends on what you count as success in the PDC
Dekker is garbage, no chance of winning anything meaningful in either code. Kong is an early round winner only.
Wilson and Norris could both do well, the former in particular.
Wilson and Norris could both do well, the former in particular.
As i said they would struggle to get into the top 32,
They are struggling in Q school ffs with just one in so far.
Might get one more in.
And these are the better bdo guys
They are struggling in Q school ffs with just one in so far.
Might get one more in.
And these are the better bdo guys
Lost early today, can't even get through q school
One day to go...
Current Q School Order of Merit following Day Three...
Any ties go to count back.
EG:
Player 1 (1,5*,5,2) 13pts
Player 2 (5,1,5,2) 13pts
(Player 1 would progress based on better 2nd round score*).
Top 18 in the table Qualify
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,)14 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,)12
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,)11
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,)11
6) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,) 10
10) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,)10
11) Bradley, Tony (3,3,3,)9
12) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,)9
13) Thomas, Kevin (3,5,1,)9
14) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,)9
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,)9
16) Foreman, Jay (0,3,5,)8
17) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,)8
18) Murnan, Joe (2,3#,3,)8 (Joe 18th on count back#)
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19) Fullwell, Nick (5,0,3,)8
20) Muramatsu, Haruki (5,1,2,)8
21) Hammond, Curtis (3,5,0,)8
22) Milford, Paul (5,3,0,)8
23) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,)7
Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7
Filby, Graham (3,1,3)7
Shepherd, Kirk (0,5,2,)7
Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,)7
Thomas, Wayne (2,3,2,)7
Davies, Ben (1,5,1,)7
Carrett, Stephen (5,2,0,)7
Lincoln, Tony (0,1,5,)6
Ward, Harry (0,1,5)6
Hill, Jack (0,1,5,)6
Rodriguez, Roxy-James (0,3,3,)6
Forster, James (3,1,2,)6
Dekker, Jan (1,5,0,)6
Walton, John (john boy - former bdo world champ) (1,5,0,)6
Narain, Shaun (2,0,3,)5
Stell, Oliver (2,0,3,)5
Others 5 pts or less...
**Note - Sure to be an error or two in the pts/positions**
Current Q School Order of Merit following Day Three...
Any ties go to count back.
EG:
Player 1 (1,5*,5,2) 13pts
Player 2 (5,1,5,2) 13pts
(Player 1 would progress based on better 2nd round score*).
Top 18 in the table Qualify
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,)14 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,)12
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,)11
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,)11
6) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,) 10
10) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,)10
11) Bradley, Tony (3,3,3,)9
12) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,)9
13) Thomas, Kevin (3,5,1,)9
14) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,)9
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,)9
16) Foreman, Jay (0,3,5,)8
17) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,)8
18) Murnan, Joe (2,3#,3,)8 (Joe 18th on count back#)
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19) Fullwell, Nick (5,0,3,)8
20) Muramatsu, Haruki (5,1,2,)8
21) Hammond, Curtis (3,5,0,)8
22) Milford, Paul (5,3,0,)8
23) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,)7
Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7
Filby, Graham (3,1,3)7
Shepherd, Kirk (0,5,2,)7
Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,)7
Thomas, Wayne (2,3,2,)7
Davies, Ben (1,5,1,)7
Carrett, Stephen (5,2,0,)7
Lincoln, Tony (0,1,5,)6
Ward, Harry (0,1,5)6
Hill, Jack (0,1,5,)6
Rodriguez, Roxy-James (0,3,3,)6
Forster, James (3,1,2,)6
Dekker, Jan (1,5,0,)6
Walton, John (john boy - former bdo world champ) (1,5,0,)6
Narain, Shaun (2,0,3,)5
Stell, Oliver (2,0,3,)5
Others 5 pts or less...
**Note - Sure to be an error or two in the pts/positions**
Not yet Grant - 1 day to go...Comprendo?
treble, there's 16 automatic tour card winners (4 per day), plus the top 18 from the order of merit table. A total of 34 tour cards on offer.
Day 1
Tour Card Winners
Nigel Heydon
Jeffrey de Zwaan
Alan Norris
Mike Zuydwijk
Day 2
Tour Card Winners
Devon Petersen
Jason Lovett
Andy Jenkins
Matthew Edgar
Day 3
Tour Cards
Steve Douglas
Steve West
James Wilson
Jason Wilson
Day 4
Tour Cards
???
???
???
???
Plus 18 from the OOM table
treble, there's 16 automatic tour card winners (4 per day), plus the top 18 from the order of merit table. A total of 34 tour cards on offer.
Day 1
Tour Card Winners
Nigel Heydon
Jeffrey de Zwaan
Alan Norris
Mike Zuydwijk
Day 2
Tour Card Winners
Devon Petersen
Jason Lovett
Andy Jenkins
Matthew Edgar
Day 3
Tour Cards
Steve Douglas
Steve West
James Wilson
Jason Wilson
Day 4
Tour Cards
???
???
???
???
Plus 18 from the OOM table
All points above are correct bar one:
Filby, Graham (3,1,3)7??? 5 points, not 7
Plenty to play for on the final day with several players sitting pretty at the top.
The cut off point was guestimated at 9/10 points before the start of day 1 so a lot of nervy twitching ahead today. Pens at the ready!
Been the usual gripes from players - Not being seeding is not fair and bad luck of the draw.
Roll on 12 noon.
Filby, Graham (3,1,3)7??? 5 points, not 7
Plenty to play for on the final day with several players sitting pretty at the top.
The cut off point was guestimated at 9/10 points before the start of day 1 so a lot of nervy twitching ahead today. Pens at the ready!
Been the usual gripes from players - Not being seeding is not fair and bad luck of the draw.
Roll on 12 noon.
What will happen to Mr Coats now? Will he slink back to the BDO with his coat tail between his legs?
Tight at the bottom 
Last 16
Karl Merchant v Stephen McNally
Dirk van Duijvenbode v Nathan Derry
Haruki Muramatsu v Wayne Atwood
Jamie Robinson v Lee Palfreyman
Andy Boulton v Nathan Aspinall
Jonny Clayton 5-4 William O’Connor
Stephen Willard v Robert Parker
Magnus Caris v Leon de Geus
Top 18 in the table Qualify
Latest table of madness...
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,3)17 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,2)14 QUALIFIED
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,)11
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,3)14 QUALIFIED
6) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,1) 11
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,0)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
10) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,2)11
11) Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,5)12+ QUALIFIED*
12) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,3)11
13) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,0)10
13) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,3)10
14) Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7+
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,1)10
16) O'Connor, William (0,5,0,5)10
17) van Duijvenbode, Dirk (3,0,1,)4+
18) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
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Merchant, Karl 1,+ MUST WIN
jamie robinson MUST WIN
wayne atwood MUST WIN
Stephen McNally MUST WIN
Mark Carter MUST WIN
Nathan Derry MUST WIN
Stephen Willard MUST WIN
Robert Parker MUST WIN
Magnus Caris MUST WIN
Leon de Gues MUST WIN
Last 16
Karl Merchant v Stephen McNally
Dirk van Duijvenbode v Nathan Derry
Haruki Muramatsu v Wayne Atwood
Jamie Robinson v Lee Palfreyman
Andy Boulton v Nathan Aspinall
Jonny Clayton 5-4 William O’Connor
Stephen Willard v Robert Parker
Magnus Caris v Leon de Geus
Top 18 in the table Qualify
Latest table of madness...
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,3)17 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,2)14 QUALIFIED
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,)11
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,3)14 QUALIFIED
6) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,1) 11
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,0)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
10) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,2)11
11) Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,5)12+ QUALIFIED*
12) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,3)11
13) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,0)10
13) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,3)10
14) Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7+
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,1)10
16) O'Connor, William (0,5,0,5)10
17) van Duijvenbode, Dirk (3,0,1,)4+
18) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
========================================
Merchant, Karl 1,+ MUST WIN
jamie robinson MUST WIN
wayne atwood MUST WIN
Stephen McNally MUST WIN
Mark Carter MUST WIN
Nathan Derry MUST WIN
Stephen Willard MUST WIN
Robert Parker MUST WIN
Magnus Caris MUST WIN
Leon de Gues MUST WIN
Tour Cards
Nathan Derry
Jamie Robinson
Jonny Clayton
Magnus Caris
Top 18 in the table Qualify
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,3)17 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,2)14 QUALIFIED
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,9)20
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,3)14 QUALIFIED
6) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,1) 11
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,0)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
10) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,2)11
11) Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,5)12+ QUALIFIED*
12) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,3)11
13) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,0)10
13) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,3)10
14) Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7+
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,1)10
16) O'Connor, William (0,5,0,5)10
17) van Duijvenbode, Dirk (3,0,1,5)9
18) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
Might be right. might be wrong?
Nathan Derry
Jamie Robinson
Jonny Clayton
Magnus Caris
Top 18 in the table Qualify
1) Wattimena. Jermaine (3,5,9,)17 QUALIFIED
2) MacNeil, Ken (2,3,9,3)17 QUALIFIED
3) Dobey, Chris (1,9,2,2)14 QUALIFIED
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4) Boulton, Andy (1,9,1,9)20
5) Jiwa, Prakash (9,1,1,3)14 QUALIFIED
6) Walker, Jim (9,0,1,1) 11
7) Martin, Tim (0,1,9,0)10
8) Richardson, Tony (0,9,1,)10
9) Aspinall, Nathan (0,1,9,)10
10) Green, Robbie (5,1,3,2)11
11) Palfreyman, Lee (3,2,2,5)12+ QUALIFIED*
12) Johnson, Darren (1,2,5,3)11
13) Dootson, Eddie (5,5,0,0)10
13) Haines, Johnny (0,2,5,3)10
14) Woodhouse, Luke (1,3,3,)7+
15) Abbiss, Carl (9,0,0,1)10
16) O'Connor, William (0,5,0,5)10
17) van Duijvenbode, Dirk (3,0,1,5)9
18) Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
Might be right. might be wrong?
Two 13's there ....ooooops
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19th Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
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19th Hartrey, Chris (0,9,0,0)9
I tried, albeit playing catch up after 3 hrs of play today.
Final List - 34 Qualifiers (taken from a reliable source)
Day 1
1 Alan Norris
1 Jeffrey De Zwaan
1 Mike Zuydwijk
1 Nigel Heydon
Day 2
5 Matthew Edgar
5 Andy Jenkins
5 Jason Lovett
5 Devon Petersen
Day 3
9 James Wilson
9 Steve Douglas
9 Steve West
9 Jason Wilson
Day 4
13 Jamie Robinson
13 Jonny Clayton
13 Magnus Caris
13 Nathan Derry
Top 18 in table
17 Andy Boulton 20 (1+9+1+9)
18 Ken MacNeil 17 (2+3+9+3)
19 Jermaine Wattimena 17 (3+5+9+0)
20 Nathan Aspinall 15 (1+0+9+5)
21 Prakash Jiwa 14 (9+1+1+3)
22 Chris Dobey 14 (1+9+2+2)
23 Stephen McNally 13 (1+2+1+9)
24 Haruki Muramatsu 13 (5+1+2+5)
25 Lee Palfreyman 12 (3+2+2+5)
26 Tony Richardson 12 (0+9+1+2)
27 Stephen Willard 11 (1+1+0+9)
28 Darren Johnson 11 (1+2+5+3)
29 Robbie Green 11 (5+1+3+2)
30 Jim Walker 11 (9+0+1+1)
31 William O'Connor 10 (0+5+0+5)
32 Johnny Haines 10 (0+2+5+3)
33 Curtis Hammond 10 (3+5+0+2)
34 Paul Milford 10 (5+3+0+2)
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35 Carl Abbiss 10 (9+0+0+1)
Cue Madness - Embarrassment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpN_TOP9hg8
Final List - 34 Qualifiers (taken from a reliable source)
Day 1
1 Alan Norris
1 Jeffrey De Zwaan
1 Mike Zuydwijk
1 Nigel Heydon
Day 2
5 Matthew Edgar
5 Andy Jenkins
5 Jason Lovett
5 Devon Petersen
Day 3
9 James Wilson
9 Steve Douglas
9 Steve West
9 Jason Wilson
Day 4
13 Jamie Robinson
13 Jonny Clayton
13 Magnus Caris
13 Nathan Derry
Top 18 in table
17 Andy Boulton 20 (1+9+1+9)
18 Ken MacNeil 17 (2+3+9+3)
19 Jermaine Wattimena 17 (3+5+9+0)
20 Nathan Aspinall 15 (1+0+9+5)
21 Prakash Jiwa 14 (9+1+1+3)
22 Chris Dobey 14 (1+9+2+2)
23 Stephen McNally 13 (1+2+1+9)
24 Haruki Muramatsu 13 (5+1+2+5)
25 Lee Palfreyman 12 (3+2+2+5)
26 Tony Richardson 12 (0+9+1+2)
27 Stephen Willard 11 (1+1+0+9)
28 Darren Johnson 11 (1+2+5+3)
29 Robbie Green 11 (5+1+3+2)
30 Jim Walker 11 (9+0+1+1)
31 William O'Connor 10 (0+5+0+5)
32 Johnny Haines 10 (0+2+5+3)
33 Curtis Hammond 10 (3+5+0+2)
34 Paul Milford 10 (5+3+0+2)
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35 Carl Abbiss 10 (9+0+0+1)
Cue Madness - Embarrassment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpN_TOP9hg8
PDC's Nigel Heydon's form continues as he beat BDO World Champ piss head Martin Atkins 4-2 in BDO county match for Warwickshire away to league leaders Lancashire. Heydon closed out the match with a tasty 180,97,180,44, in 11 darts, averaging 95.25
Dear grief. https://twitter.com/kongdarts/status/557660777784827906
That's absolutely pathetic...it fully endorses my reluctance to ever go near any of this social media balls 
I doubt he will but it wouldn't be the biggest surprise if Robbie found a few extra lengths and made a bit of a dent in some of the forthcoming Players' Championships...I hope he does, just to ram it down that turd's throat!
I doubt he will but it wouldn't be the biggest surprise if Robbie found a few extra lengths and made a bit of a dent in some of the forthcoming Players' Championships...I hope he does, just to ram it down that turd's throat!
so kong won a pdc card, what is the bit about the sunday arm excuse?
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