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By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 14:59
They would be foolish to attack each other here...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:01
Benoot responding well, but I don't like him doing it, much better to sit and wait and let others do that.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:03
I mean Navarro is a joker, he wants o animate the group to increase the pace and hold the gap comfortably, but he will not win this stage, we know that.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:04
...so responding to him just breaks rhythm and hurts the legs for later.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:12
Atapuma will make them respond as he was in the break yesterday, albeit he showed nothing has shown nothing this season. Going all the way back to last season with him in the Vuelta stage 20 -- high but powerful cadence -- 2nd to LaTour on the line, I believe. Lutsenko should gap him on the descent, I think.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:13
Lutsenko not really a climber, will have to work by himself on the short flats...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:17
Gallopin -- surprised!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:19
Can only see this by Gallopin as an LTS move to give Benoot a rest along this flats section...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:19
Plateau -- then steeper -- then flats again -- then steep near the end.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:20
Confirmation will come if Gallopin sits on the back.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:22
Gallopin is coming through and pulling -- this is for himself -- requesting 20s Benoot might be a failed project, I think.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:28
Sicard can climb well, but would need to be at his best and Atapuma is better. Too hard for Gallopin.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:31
SKY still have a say in this -- why is it so problematic this Tour in the mountains??
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:36
Benoot available at 20s for small liquidity, however he has not made it across.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:38
Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:39
4mins not enough at the foot of the climb -- no matter who in the break hits it first, I think.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:40
5mins presently, but not much cohesion -- Edet off the front.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:43
Next "magic number" is the start of the climb proper -- 14.1kms to-go...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:44
ALM involvement -- stage win riding here!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:46
4mins not enough by the start -- 30secs in 5kms no problem -- break up against it, I think.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:47
Plus that's 20secs to second group...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:48
It's essentially already 4mins -- going with the GC group.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:51
It'll be ALM then SKY and attacks -- breakaway would require major heorics to hold the quality of Bardet/froome and GC rivals.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:54
Still a deceiving gap of time, Lutsenko will not hold on here, so gap should be to the breakaway proper, some 35secs closer to GC group.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:58
First half of the climb is the easiest and the gap to the GC is essentially 3:20. Most of the break will pop in the second half of the climb whilst the GC riders will be accelerating -- I still think it is with the GC.
By:
padlock
When: 20 Jul 17 15:58
Why do i think bardet is too strong for froome at the end today
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 15:59
Because he: 1.) showed something yesterday.
2.) ALM are working for him.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:00
So ALM think the same.Wink
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:03
Atapuma was the one who is holding respect in the market.
By:
padlock
When: 20 Jul 17 16:03
Hope he gets super aggressive and test skytrain
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:04
He has a nice cadence and he is fair quality, but there will be a big sorting out on the steep gradients, and that is favourable for the GC.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:05
7kms is the "magic number" where things begin to bite.
By:
padlock
When: 20 Jul 17 16:06
Its so frustrating if they didnt time this right., gambling wise
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:08
Padlock, the idea is to have a nice early question to solve and sit back and hope things get close, not for it to get close at the end with a hundred questions and permutations of scenarios. Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:09
1500m for the GC behind Atapuma.
By:
padlock
When: 20 Jul 17 16:10
Lol yes i get twitchy at the end,i dont understand it all as much as you, its all about my bets and i shout at them if they are not doing what i want
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:10
Atapuma or GC, I think.
By:
padlock
When: 20 Jul 17 16:11
So hard to know if the gc feckers even want to win the stage Angry
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:11
Atapuma looks good, but he has not hit the steeps, yet.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 20 Jul 17 16:13
Expect Froome/Bardet to bust out "bury-mode" when they hit the steeps, that will mean they're 1km behind Atapuma, and that's jsut about as close as it can get.
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