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Stage 21 » Sèvres › Paris (109.5k)
The famous and traditional procession to the Avenue des Champs-Élysées. Taking the stage on the Champs-Élysées is one of the most sought-after prizes in cycling and the sprinters who have suffered for the most of the last few weeks will be savouring the chance to take a final win.
We start in Sèvres, just on the Eastern outskirts of Paris and the route meanders around, following the Seine and going through Longchamp before hitting the famous circuit.
The 7.4km circuit is taken 10 times in total. Positioning is crucuial on the run-in and leadouts will be critical. All the sprinters teams have lost riders with the exception of Europcar and Coquard. He looked like he was in good shape before dropping a chain on Stage 15. Greipel has shown himself to be fastest in 3 of the 4 bunch sprints. Cav won the other and Degenkolb looked like his train is starting to work when he finished 2nd to Grepiel in Valence. Two sprinters who have largely failed and will be looking to turn things round are Kristoff and Demare. It has been a long time since this last stage has been won by a break and I can't see it happening with so many hungry sprinters in the field.
The famous and traditional procession to the Avenue des Champs-Élysées. Taking the stage on the Champs-Élysées is one of the most sought-after prizes in cycling and the sprinters who have suffered for the most of the last few weeks will be savouring the chance to take a final win.
We start in Sèvres, just on the Eastern outskirts of Paris and the route meanders around, following the Seine and going through Longchamp before hitting the famous circuit.
The 7.4km circuit is taken 10 times in total. Positioning is crucuial on the run-in and leadouts will be critical. All the sprinters teams have lost riders with the exception of Europcar and Coquard. He looked like he was in good shape before dropping a chain on Stage 15. Greipel has shown himself to be fastest in 3 of the 4 bunch sprints. Cav won the other and Degenkolb looked like his train is starting to work when he finished 2nd to Grepiel in Valence. Two sprinters who have largely failed and will be looking to turn things round are Kristoff and Demare. It has been a long time since this last stage has been won by a break and I can't see it happening with so many hungry sprinters in the field.
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Possibility of Rain ?
Can Sagan possibly finnish off with a win ?
Can Sagan possibly finnish off with a win ?
Lads and PP up cav 3-1 with PP looks big only 7-4 with lads 
13-2 peter with Lads 5 with PP
13-2 peter with Lads 5 with PP
The Manx Missile does enjoy the big stage, and when following wheels he does seem to recapture his best. I therefore think these two factors might cause a shortening in his price at some point, so I'm in for a small trade whilst I go over the previous sprint results, which admittedly are not going to tell me more than what the IR pics and pre-stage reactions might reveal.
A lot of it just comes down to how the sprinters feel after all that climbing -- which rider feels like his legs are somewhat soured and which rider feels like he is likely to find the good sensations because his legs feel fine. For instance, if the Manx feels like he is in fair shape than he does have that second kick and a brilliant record on this fine stretch of road for our sport.
A lot of it just comes down to how the sprinters feel after all that climbing -- which rider feels like his legs are somewhat soured and which rider feels like he is likely to find the good sensations because his legs feel fine. For instance, if the Manx feels like he is in fair shape than he does have that second kick and a brilliant record on this fine stretch of road for our sport.
The Raver gets his tyre or a small bit of it to break the pixels 
Save Cav and a few other other faireytales ,has anyone ever won from a break on the Champs ?
Save Cav and a few other other faireytales ,has anyone ever won from a break on the Champs ?
Vino in 2005 won from a break.
Four wins straight for the Manx Missile between 2009 and 2012, and the last two have been won by Kittel.
The Raver has a poor career record on the Yellow Brick Road, going: 9/4/2.
Four wins straight for the Manx Missile between 2009 and 2012, and the last two have been won by Kittel.
The Raver has a poor career record on the Yellow Brick Road, going: 9/4/2.
Bit of a shame that this final stage has become a procession + sprint. Would/should it still be the case if the difference between the top two was a couple of seconds?
LeMond v Fignon in that last day time trial was brilliant. A far more exciting ending. Would be nice to mix it up a bit again.
LeMond v Fignon in that last day time trial was brilliant. A far more exciting ending. Would be nice to mix it up a bit again.
I think Cav should be favourite here. He rates a decent bet at 9/4. I'm also backing Degenkolb at 11/1 each way and a little bit on Navardauskas at 100/1.
The two fastest men are Cav and Greipel, but the prices should be the other way round.
Greipel 13/8 Won 3 out of 4 sprints so far. Won the first two fair and square. However, in the second Cav realised he could win if he got onto Greipel's wheel. He didn't manage it in the second sprint but by the third sprint he had nailed it and won. Greipel won the 4th bunch sprint as well, but as Cav was ill and had been dropped on the first climb it's hard to read too much into it. Would Cav have won again if he'd been there? Who's to say. Greipel is without his main leadout man in Henderson. He also has a relatively poor record on the Champs Elysees and apparently has an sore right knee. AVOID
Cav 9/4 failed badly in the first sprint and seemed to be on the premises much too early. In the second sprint he decided to leave Renshaw's wheel and try to get onto Greipel's. This didn't work. It's unlike Cav to be out-thought and out-fought in the bunch. By the third sprint he had nailed his tactics, getting into the Gorilla's wheel and winning. Cav is proven on the Champs having won 4 times. He doesn't have his full leadout either with the key men Martin, Kwiatowski and Renshaw all missing. He will have to rely on Trentin and Stybar, but I imagine in the finale Cav will get on the wheel of Kristoff who will go long. OVERPRICED - WORTH A BET.
Kristoff 8/1 no Paolini but has Guarnieri who can be relied upon. Almost held off Kittel last year but the main concern for Kristoff is that he has not been in great form at all. Even on stage 15 where he still had two men and no-one else had any he could only manage 3rd. He is probably the hardest of all the sprinters and often gets stronger as everyone around falters. UNLIKELY TO BE THE FASTEST BUT WILL BE ON THE PREMISES.
Sagan 6/1 has achieved what he came here for and knows he can't win against these guys. Far too short as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even contest this sprint. PLACE LAY - DON'T TOUCH
Degenkolb 11/1 Would ideally like an uphill finish but suited by the cobbles and looked fast when he came second to Greipel on stage 15. No Sinkeldam or Dumoulin but Giant have had a brilliant Tour, and their train are experts at the late ambush. They will get him to the front and he will be on the premises. NAILED ON TOP 4, LIKELY TOP 3. WORTH AN EACH WAY BET.
Coquard 40/1 has a chance of a top 3 as well, Europcar have a full team and a place would be a great result for them. PLACE PROSPECT.
Demare 25/1 has not had a good tour, and whilst he would love a podium here in reality he will be lucky to improve on Stage 7's 6th place finish. UNLIKELY TO PLACE.
Matthews 66/1 has recovered from illness but is not quite quick enough to challenge the fastest guys here. UNLIKELY TO PLACE.
Navardauskas 100/1 if all the sprinters teams look at each other he is one man who could go for a long one and be the first man since Vinoukorouv to win solo. Or he can surprise the fast men in a bunch too, like he did last year when he finished 3rd. SMALL E/W PLAY.
Greipel 13/8 Won 3 out of 4 sprints so far. Won the first two fair and square. However, in the second Cav realised he could win if he got onto Greipel's wheel. He didn't manage it in the second sprint but by the third sprint he had nailed it and won. Greipel won the 4th bunch sprint as well, but as Cav was ill and had been dropped on the first climb it's hard to read too much into it. Would Cav have won again if he'd been there? Who's to say. Greipel is without his main leadout man in Henderson. He also has a relatively poor record on the Champs Elysees and apparently has an sore right knee. AVOID
Cav 9/4 failed badly in the first sprint and seemed to be on the premises much too early. In the second sprint he decided to leave Renshaw's wheel and try to get onto Greipel's. This didn't work. It's unlike Cav to be out-thought and out-fought in the bunch. By the third sprint he had nailed his tactics, getting into the Gorilla's wheel and winning. Cav is proven on the Champs having won 4 times. He doesn't have his full leadout either with the key men Martin, Kwiatowski and Renshaw all missing. He will have to rely on Trentin and Stybar, but I imagine in the finale Cav will get on the wheel of Kristoff who will go long. OVERPRICED - WORTH A BET.
Kristoff 8/1 no Paolini but has Guarnieri who can be relied upon. Almost held off Kittel last year but the main concern for Kristoff is that he has not been in great form at all. Even on stage 15 where he still had two men and no-one else had any he could only manage 3rd. He is probably the hardest of all the sprinters and often gets stronger as everyone around falters. UNLIKELY TO BE THE FASTEST BUT WILL BE ON THE PREMISES.
Sagan 6/1 has achieved what he came here for and knows he can't win against these guys. Far too short as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even contest this sprint. PLACE LAY - DON'T TOUCH
Degenkolb 11/1 Would ideally like an uphill finish but suited by the cobbles and looked fast when he came second to Greipel on stage 15. No Sinkeldam or Dumoulin but Giant have had a brilliant Tour, and their train are experts at the late ambush. They will get him to the front and he will be on the premises. NAILED ON TOP 4, LIKELY TOP 3. WORTH AN EACH WAY BET.
Coquard 40/1 has a chance of a top 3 as well, Europcar have a full team and a place would be a great result for them. PLACE PROSPECT.
Demare 25/1 has not had a good tour, and whilst he would love a podium here in reality he will be lucky to improve on Stage 7's 6th place finish. UNLIKELY TO PLACE.
Matthews 66/1 has recovered from illness but is not quite quick enough to challenge the fastest guys here. UNLIKELY TO PLACE.
Navardauskas 100/1 if all the sprinters teams look at each other he is one man who could go for a long one and be the first man since Vinoukorouv to win solo. Or he can surprise the fast men in a bunch too, like he did last year when he finished 3rd. SMALL E/W PLAY.
Watching the womens race and half the field has crashed. Could be significant changes in the mens race if it continues raining.
Agree with most of that m1 apart from the Sagan bit.I know he has a knack of finding a way to lose sprints but on a couple of ocassions this tour he has been finishing fastest of all and would have won one of them in another 20 metres.A small bet on Sagan for me but any of the top 5 in the betting for this one.
Just watching La Course by the Tour de France. Not had a bet although I wish I'd had a tickle on Fanny Riberot
Crash galore in the womens race. Whats the weather forecast for later on anyone ?
Rain for the whole of the race. Due to p*ss down by the end of the womens race.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/fr/paris/623/minute-weather-forecast/623
http://www.accuweather.com/en/fr/paris/623/minute-weather-forecast/623
well that certainly might improve the drama. Possible breakaways. Froome to adopt american football style shoulder pads to protect the collarbone
Well, that's an interesting approach MC. 
From experience, offering such specific bet suggestions can really hurt your confidence when performances go against the data as they often do. I mean, I certainly feel not only the personal financial hit to my bank when I get it wrong, but also the loss of disappointment of those that might have used my suggestions to make their wagering selections, and it's therefore a double burden that can hurt the confidence.
Anyway, always love the homecoming of this World Championship for Sprinters, however I understand the sadness people feel as the stage signifies the end of such a great three weeks on the calendar for the cycling fan.
I agree with the understanding that the prices between the Gorilla and the Manxman should be the other way around. The Books, particularly PP, whom have been the first up with their prices for much of the Tour and indeed this one, have essentially framed this market on Tour form and not historical record on the Champs. Normally, that it is the proper professional approach and I can see why the Books have gone this way. However, Tour or current form for such a market only has a strong bearing when the sprint stages are consecutive. Here and now, after all the difficulties of the Alp stages for the sprinters, they are essentially starting on a clean slate or clean sheet, free from the prejudice of previous performances as the hard riding/climbing would have affected them all significantly.
Nevertheless, the Gorilla's knee injury was already an issue prior to his stage 15 win, so unless it has worsened since then, and I am not aware it has, it shouldn't be a major factor in deciding the strength of his finish. I still think the Gorilla is in career-best form in the sprints, however from purely a historical basis and value, the Manx Missile is most attractive for my outright bet, although I am taking him on trust. Following the same historical approach, Kristoff's performance last year was memorable, and on best form I think he can go one better to win, today. E/W.
Good luck to all,
SP
From experience, offering such specific bet suggestions can really hurt your confidence when performances go against the data as they often do. I mean, I certainly feel not only the personal financial hit to my bank when I get it wrong, but also the loss of disappointment of those that might have used my suggestions to make their wagering selections, and it's therefore a double burden that can hurt the confidence.Anyway, always love the homecoming of this World Championship for Sprinters, however I understand the sadness people feel as the stage signifies the end of such a great three weeks on the calendar for the cycling fan.
I agree with the understanding that the prices between the Gorilla and the Manxman should be the other way around. The Books, particularly PP, whom have been the first up with their prices for much of the Tour and indeed this one, have essentially framed this market on Tour form and not historical record on the Champs. Normally, that it is the proper professional approach and I can see why the Books have gone this way. However, Tour or current form for such a market only has a strong bearing when the sprint stages are consecutive. Here and now, after all the difficulties of the Alp stages for the sprinters, they are essentially starting on a clean slate or clean sheet, free from the prejudice of previous performances as the hard riding/climbing would have affected them all significantly.
Nevertheless, the Gorilla's knee injury was already an issue prior to his stage 15 win, so unless it has worsened since then, and I am not aware it has, it shouldn't be a major factor in deciding the strength of his finish. I still think the Gorilla is in career-best form in the sprints, however from purely a historical basis and value, the Manx Missile is most attractive for my outright bet, although I am taking him on trust. Following the same historical approach, Kristoff's performance last year was memorable, and on best form I think he can go one better to win, today. E/W.
Good luck to all,
SP
Maybe something like what happened in the last stage of the giro can happen, Durbridge to go one better this time. Had a few random bets on Dennis, Brandle, Vanmarcke, Van Barle, Oss. I think the rain could make it a lottery.
The last six years the best sprinter in the race has won on the champs-elysees, you would think Greipel would be keen to do the same here. He was narrowly beaten by Kittel in 2013 in a photo finish that had Kittel, Greipel and Cavendish finishing within half a wheel of each other. I think he is the rightful favourite but can't be confident backing him here in the slippery conditions.
Lots of the sprinters teams are missing riders which could make it less crowded and actually be easier for Greipel and Cav to take a up a good position. However less firepower might make it harder to control the late moves and any crash on the final few corners could favour riders off the front of the peleton.
The time for the final stage will be taken on the first pass of the finish line with 65km to go. Anyone who crashes after that will be given the same time as the front group.
Good I've taken Contador to beat Quintana and Nibali to beat Valverde in head to head bets, the Movistar riders won't want to crash and hurt themselves for the podium ceremony.
Froomes biggest problem this tour....... deciding what to wear
looks like he's gone with the stylish yellow on yellow today
G'day gents,
Wet one to finish looks like -- forecasters finally got one right.
7/2 for the Manxman was surprising. Now solid at 3/1+. Doesn't look like I'm going to hit this Cav trade anytime soon.
Okay, well, another great Tour, to be sure.
-- Favourite stage was stage 8 on the Mur de Bratagne -- thought the way Vuillermoz won was quite stunning, he gets my best-in-class hardman rating, but only just from GVA in the stage 13 finish into Rodez when he pummelled Sagan, and a close third by the Panzerwagon reaching out over the cobbles and the longest stage of the race in stage 4 into Cambrai.
-- Best confidence boost for rider goes to Geschke -- think he might go on with it next season in the Ardennes after that career-best win to solo to Pra Loup. It might give him the belief he hasn't had before.
-- Exciting future GC prospect is obviously still Quintana, and I like the way Quintana closed out the race, narrowing the gap even though it was late, and gaining confidence in a team which has his best interests at heart. Jungels looks like the real deal, and it'll be interesting to see how he develops.
-- Nice to see the Frenchmen winning. Bardet and Pinot adding to the win by Vuillermoz.
-- European domination is nothing new, but good to see that we Australians jagged a stage win with Rohan Dennis in the opener.
-- Interesting to see the old men fire again. Purito with two wins, but also Stephen Cummings and Ruben Plaza each won and they're all around their mid-30s.
Vive Le Tour!
Wet one to finish looks like -- forecasters finally got one right.
7/2 for the Manxman was surprising. Now solid at 3/1+. Doesn't look like I'm going to hit this Cav trade anytime soon.
Okay, well, another great Tour, to be sure.
-- Favourite stage was stage 8 on the Mur de Bratagne -- thought the way Vuillermoz won was quite stunning, he gets my best-in-class hardman rating, but only just from GVA in the stage 13 finish into Rodez when he pummelled Sagan, and a close third by the Panzerwagon reaching out over the cobbles and the longest stage of the race in stage 4 into Cambrai.
-- Best confidence boost for rider goes to Geschke -- think he might go on with it next season in the Ardennes after that career-best win to solo to Pra Loup. It might give him the belief he hasn't had before.
-- Exciting future GC prospect is obviously still Quintana, and I like the way Quintana closed out the race, narrowing the gap even though it was late, and gaining confidence in a team which has his best interests at heart. Jungels looks like the real deal, and it'll be interesting to see how he develops.
-- Nice to see the Frenchmen winning. Bardet and Pinot adding to the win by Vuillermoz.
-- European domination is nothing new, but good to see that we Australians jagged a stage win with Rohan Dennis in the opener.
-- Interesting to see the old men fire again. Purito with two wins, but also Stephen Cummings and Ruben Plaza each won and they're all around their mid-30s.
Vive Le Tour!
Also, since the weather is disappointing, my disappointments are:
-- Mollema on GC. Really thought he might turn things around for himself and raise his level now that he has the right team devoted to him in TFR. 7th is fair enough, but over 15 mins back is pretty bad, down 5 mins to Gesink and only a few seconds better than Frank who is not a noted GC rider.
-- Gallopin not winning a stage.
-- Not backing Martin at ante-post in stage 4, Stybar stage 6, and GVA stage 13.
-- Mollema on GC. Really thought he might turn things around for himself and raise his level now that he has the right team devoted to him in TFR. 7th is fair enough, but over 15 mins back is pretty bad, down 5 mins to Gesink and only a few seconds better than Frank who is not a noted GC rider.
-- Gallopin not winning a stage.
-- Not backing Martin at ante-post in stage 4, Stybar stage 6, and GVA stage 13.
SKY's kit reminds me of that song...black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow...
Has Mark 'Manx Missile' Cavendish lost a leg in the Alps? 
This price is outstanding!
This price is outstanding!
Very poor spectacle for the once-a-year viewers, this. Why not cut to 3 laps if nobody is going to try to break?
Who was that excellent TT rider representing GBR a couple of years ago?
Cheers MC -- found him, it was David Millar, I remember seeing him in 2013 I think it was, on the Champs, smashing an amazing average speed out in front by himself, in what seemed like forever, and the peloton eventually brought him back, and from that day I realized that I probably will never witness a breakaway winning on the Champs, let alone some 40kms out like these three are trying. It is impossible, imho. Would require the laziest most tired and inattentive peloton, ever.
He went out to do that just in case it was his last TDF. Ironically it was as illness forced him out of the Tour in his retirement year.
Good, you remember it too -- wasn't it an amazing effort?
Yes remember that effort by Millar. Remember him talking about it as well saying he knew he wouldn't win but just wanted to go out and punish himself for a lap or two. He had the peloton worried for a bit though.
Many thanks Marychain for your insights all through le tour, much appreciated - take the maillot jeune going for Kristoff here gl
going for Kristoff here gl
cheers NR
Erm yep that's it lol 
need more training, it's my first day 
need more training, it's my first day
There's a pretty good write up of that attack in Millar's book if I remember correctly. Today is always a good day for the old gimmers to have a run out ahead of the peloton
Me and the missus went to Paris for a long weekend when we were expecting our eldest, back in spring 2003. We did all the usual, Montmartre, Le Louvre, walked up Les Champs Elysees and went up L'arc de Triomphe. When we were buying the tickets the guy on the desk saw the other half was expecting and told us to get the secret lift to the top, instead of walking up the 284 steps. We told the next guy we wanted to take the lift and he started to say "Il n'ya pas un ascenseur..." until he saw the bump and then he said "Ahhhhh....il ya un bebé!!" and let us into the secret lift.
The view from the top is stunning. We were up there at dusk, and watching the lights come on is amazing. You are right in the middle of and right above the most mental roundabout in the world. The traffic is ridiculous. To your right is Eiffel Tower, behind you is the Arc de Defense, to the left is Montmarte and Notre Dame and in front of you is the needle at Place la Concorde, Le Louvre etc. Seeing all that as it goes dark and the lights come on all over Paris is an astonishingly beautiful sight and I would recommend it to anyone.
The view from the top is stunning. We were up there at dusk, and watching the lights come on is amazing. You are right in the middle of and right above the most mental roundabout in the world. The traffic is ridiculous. To your right is Eiffel Tower, behind you is the Arc de Defense, to the left is Montmarte and Notre Dame and in front of you is the needle at Place la Concorde, Le Louvre etc. Seeing all that as it goes dark and the lights come on all over Paris is an astonishingly beautiful sight and I would recommend it to anyone.
Whoever keeps pushing it out seems to think that people are going to abandon their projects of seeing Cav on the premises and trading 3s into Evens.
Porte not loving SKY evidently, leaving them at the end of the year to a team yet to be selected.
Great "goodbye" ride on Alpe d'Huez for Froome by Porte yesterday
Very likely, certainly not in the realms of just being a rumour, but we'll know by August 1.
Got to hand it to the Gorilla there. Out and out power won the day. Fantastic sprint by Coquard there as well.
See the scrapping between Demare and Sagan? How they didnt crash...
Kristoff went too early,
Manxman out of position and struggling to even get on the premises
(was still matched at 3.0 though after going out to 4.8 IR),
Coquard the lightweight using his cunning,
Sagan Raving...
EBH needing more,
but the Gorilla flexed his muscles like a heavyweight with an exclamation mark!
Manxman out of position and struggling to even get on the premises
(was still matched at 3.0 though after going out to 4.8 IR),
Coquard the lightweight using his cunning,
Sagan Raving...
EBH needing more,
but the Gorilla flexed his muscles like a heavyweight with an exclamation mark!
As soon as Cav finished the journos all came up and said that he had told them last night he was sick! So that'll probably be why the price looked odd, some people knew.
You know how in the British Open golf major championship, the winner -- as Zach Johnson was recently -- is described as the 'Champion Golfer of the Year'; well the sprinter that wins on the Champs, should be described as the Champion Sprinter of the Year, since this is essentially the World Championship for Sprinters.
Would've been nice if they did their jobs and published that as news. I mean, how could they not publish that? Journos not publishing news, there's something. Saw one Tweet a few hours ago that he was sick, but thought it was to do with his Chicken Pox reference in regard to his whinge on climbing red spots. Certainly would've been a good lay for those that had the nerve because those things can go the other way and a rider wins, but the fact is they went too far by pushing him out into 4.8 -- the safe money was a conservative lay.
Would've been nice if they did their jobs and published that as news. I mean, how could they not publish that? Journos not publishing news, there's something. Saw one Tweet a few hours ago that he was sick, but thought it was to do with his Chicken Pox reference in regard to his whinge on climbing red spots. Certainly would've been a good lay for those that had the nerve because those things can go the other way and a rider wins, but the fact is they went too far by pushing him out into 4.8 -- the safe money was a conservative lay.
Nice words by Froome -- credit to GBR -- credit to SKY.
Very dignified and polite words from Chris Froome there.
Well done all you forum guys. Some classy folks on here. That final stage summed up what was a pretty shocking tour for me. A couple of small stake stage wins scant consolation for a pretty shocking overall performance. Next up on here will be Clasica San Sebastian. I'll get a fred up over the next few days. I won't be doing the
Well done all you forum guys. Some classy folks on here. That final stage summed up what was a pretty shocking tour for me. A couple of small stake stage wins scant consolation for a pretty shocking overall performance. Next up on here will be Clasica San Sebastian. I'll get a fred up over the next few days. I won't be doing the
Well done all you forum guys. Some classy folks on here. That final stage summed up what was a pretty shocking tour for me. A couple of small stake stage wins scant consolation for a pretty shocking overall performance. Next up on here from me will be Clasica San Sebastian next Saturday. I'll get a fred up over the next few days. I won't be doing the *full preview threads for the Tour of Poland. I need a break and will go away and have a think and a rest before the Vuelta which starts in just under a month. We've also got the World Champs and Il Lombardia before the end of the season, and the Eneco Tour which is generally a pretty good spectacle.
Froome was like... you can spit on me, you can throw urine on me, but I am British, a gentleman, and indeed such an honest rider that it is the only way I can respect the Yellow Jersey. Delightful.
Obviously it has been great to have had MaryChain1 driving the forum by putting up such great threads for each stage, basically having all of the relevant foundation data in one convenient spot, and it's been really refreshing to witness people reaching out and thanking him for his generous efforts. Shows the good cheer of the cycling forum posters in comparison to the yobs and mugs on other forums on BF, who perhaps would not have appreciated the huge amount of work MC has devoted. Good stuff guys.
I know that even though I might have copped a loss on a stage here-and-there, knowing you had done well MC was some consolation.
Cheers MC -- thanks for keeping us all involved!
Obviously it has been great to have had MaryChain1 driving the forum by putting up such great threads for each stage, basically having all of the relevant foundation data in one convenient spot, and it's been really refreshing to witness people reaching out and thanking him for his generous efforts. Shows the good cheer of the cycling forum posters in comparison to the yobs and mugs on other forums on BF, who perhaps would not have appreciated the huge amount of work MC has devoted. Good stuff guys.
I know that even though I might have copped a loss on a stage here-and-there, knowing you had done well MC was some consolation.
Cheers MC -- thanks for keeping us all involved!
thanks for all the input everyone over the course of the tour. always a kean mix of well informed views. will be back for the vuelta
Yes thanks for everything Great Banter and insight and Big thanks to MC for tour stages work ,will keep an eye on forum
G luck to everyone and hope we are all here in 12 months
G luck to everyone and hope we are all here in 12 months
MC,
Not a massive fan on the cycling or the Tour, but this year I have read you opening posts on a morning and its got me dragged in to watching it more and more this year.
Your words and wisdom outshine anything else on the whole forum, good work and thanks for your efforts.
Not a massive fan on the cycling or the Tour, but this year I have read you opening posts on a morning and its got me dragged in to watching it more and more this year.
Your words and wisdom outshine anything else on the whole forum, good work and thanks for your efforts.
Thanks wildcat and everyone else. It's great this forum has been buzzing for the tour. Roll on the Vuelta! Had a look at the route today, looks like it is going to be a beauty!
thanks for making these threads MC and everyone else who contributes, you guys helped me make a few hundred quid this tour which was great. cheers, and cya next year
Did you end up taking some insurance against Froome at that point of the race?
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