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Sprint finish in Valence?

Today's 183km stage from Mende to Valence has 4 categorised climbs but could end in some sort of bunch sprint, which should please those who love a good bunch sprint and who have been largely starved during this Tour. The first climb of the day is the Cat 3 Cote du Badaroux which is 4.6km @ 5.1%. This climb comes almost immediately so should ensure the break gets away very early. There are two Cat 4 climbs at around 70km, the Col du Bez which is 2.6km @ 4% followed immediately by the Col de Croix de Bauzon. There then follows a long descent to the immediate sprint at Aubenas. We then have the hardest climb of the day, the Cat 2 climb of Col de l'Escrinet. This is 7.9km @5.9%.

There are 57kms left to the finish in Valence when they crest this climb and the key to this stage is whether the climb and descent is taken quickly enough to drop the sprinters. If Cavendish and Greipel can get over this climb in the peloton or get back on they will be very short to win the stage. Cavendish did surprise everyone to get over this climb and win a stage in Aubenas in 2009, and although the climb that day was a lot closer to the finish that day it was also taking it from the much easier side. This is a lot harder from this side. In my eyes sprinters will be dropped if the pace is at all high. It's all about whether they can get back on again.

This is the first time Valence has ever been a stage finish town. Valence is in the Drone department, in the Rhones-Alpes region. The riders will be able to see the rather intimidating sight of the Alps on the horizon during this stage. The last kms today are relatively straightforward. The run-in and the finish itself are very flat. There are a couple of roundabouts in the last 4kms, and a big left hand turn at 3km but after that there is nothing to worry about and this should be very fast. The flamme rouge is on Boulevard John Fitzgerald Kennedy then the riders bear right onto Avenue de Romans. The home straight is 7m wide. If his team can pace him back into the bunch after the Col de l'Escrinet I think this stage bears all the hallmarks of Mark Cavendish.

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By:
ClayDavis
When: 19 Jul 15 10:33
Ettik one -two punch for me today.
I thought Cav would be shorter, 6-1 is huge
Kwitkowski is slowly but surely getting better. He will another go soon I'm sure.
These two for me
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 10:41
I'm thinking Etixx might try to get someone in the break to avoid having to do a majority of the chasing.  Taken Trentin at 40's.
If Giant and Etixx get a man in the break, it could have a good chance, Geschke maybe an option for TGA.  Tinkoff might ride on the cat2 climb in an attempt to drop all the sprinters but I doubt it.
One last chance for Kristoff, hasn't looked too likely but the harder the better for him and he tends to be better in the 3rd week. 15.0.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 11:06
Degenkolb 2.30 vs Sagan 1.60 in head-to-head betting.
Sagan surely has to be a little bit tired.  Last realistic chance for a stage win for Degenkolb I reckon. Seems ok value.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 15 11:21
Can't see a break sticking here unless they really push it hard over the climbs. I expect most of the field to be in tact and able to chase for the sprinters.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 11:27
Yeah, you're probably right, the stage doesn't look that hard with 54km to the finish after the cat2 climb.  Does anyone think Greipel will make it over with the bunch?

Degenkolb 2.3 vs Pete Sagan
Kristoff 1.6 vs Demare
Cavendish 1.45 vs Greipel
Matthews 2 vs Boasson Hagen

Thinking of taking this all-up, pays 10.67
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 15 11:53
If any of the sprinters don't make it over they should get back on the descent unless someone is hammering the pace. After Sagan's results yesterday I can't see who would push it? Maybe MTN or OGE?

Maybe I'm not given enough respect to the climb but I'd say it would be just the Kittel's of the world that don't contend.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 13:01
9 riders in front including Sagan, Kwiatkowski, Trentin, Geschke.  17 riders chasing, then the peleton being led by Katusha.
By:
NorwichRob
When: 19 Jul 15 13:11
Thanks for the write up Marychain, agree with the Post so going for Kristoff today - cue a Sagan win Cry
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 13:30
Katusha keeping the gap at 1:50.  At this rate it could be hard to control things after the cat2 climb.
By:
bb66
When: 19 Jul 15 13:38
CavLaugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 13:38
Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 13:39
Well, interesting composition of the break...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 13:42
KAT came out prior to the start, stating that they won't be contributing at the front of the peloton as they already have two stages and this stage is not their priority.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 15 13:58
Well my predictions are f*cked already! Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:01
Plenty of opportunities here for winning bets, but would be best if the break stay away.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:06
What was the point of Sagan and Co gaining some time, to now be back with the break?

The peloton are just keeping this gap manageable, but probably won't know what happens until after the cat.2 climb. The sprinter's teams minus EQS might just reform with their men and hammer for home with a tailwind, I believe. Everything so far is suggesting break, but it's too early to call.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:10
Just to confirm, both Demare and Cavendish in the early autobus with absolutely no chance of being involved in proceedings. The other sprinters are still in the peloton, such as Greipel, Kristoff and Degenkolb.
By:
dom888
When: 19 Jul 15 14:12
Sagan 2.7
They never learn
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:18
Laying Sagan might be a good option at this point, for a trade.
1.) He'll be hit on the cat.2 by Rogers and Pinot.
2.) The peloton may reform for the sprinters after the cat.2 and smash the 57kms for a bunch sprint.
3.) Isn't that comfortable with tempo ridding in a group on the climbs and may struggle.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:20
KAT for Kristoff are keen since Cav is not in the peloton -- plans change on the road in such a fluid and dynamic sport, I guess.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 14:26
SwingingPick • July 19, 2015 2:20 PM BST
KAT for Kristoff are keen since Cav is not in the peloton -- plans change on the road in such a fluid and dynamic sport, I guess.



Katusha are keen because Kristoff is fast and they have no rider for the GC to worry about.  Nothing to do with Cav.


Lars Bak for Lotto-Soudal hasn't taken a turn in the breakaway yet so I assume Greipel is still in the peleton.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:28
Oh, and the market might be aware that Trentin beat Sagan into Nancy stage 7 of the Tour, last year.
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jul 15 14:31
Whats appened to Cav just tuned in ?
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:32
Cavendish Laugh
By:
bb66
When: 19 Jul 15 14:33
Cav=empty bottleLaugh
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jul 15 14:33
what appened ?
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:34
Tailed out after 10kms due to pace and difficulty of the climbing. Laugh
By:
bb66
When: 19 Jul 15 14:34
lost contact 5 k into the race
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jul 15 14:35
ffs LOL
By:
bb66
When: 19 Jul 15 14:36
only Peraud was dropped earlier
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:39
Obviously Sagan won't be hit by Rogers, but Rogers will look to close down a likely attack by Pinot on the cat.2 and Sagan may become isolated from his teammate.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 15 14:39
Not sure how reliable this is but apparently Uran is in the Cav group. That's some resting up if true..
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:43
Gap down significantly -- the peloton are cruising along at about 47km/h average, so depending on how the sprinter's teams fair after the cat.2, they should be able to cover the break in 57kms, I think.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 14:44
If Sagan loses time on the climb he will probably make it back on the descent.  Don't know how much energy he will have left after his efforts in previous stages.

Peleton need to drop Greipel.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:50
Interesting to note that KAT are not blowing up the peloton on this climb -- they know they'll need LTS support on the front to bring the break back, and if they do end up contributing than they'll telegraph what they think of a Bak to the future sequel. They're only going as fast as Kristoff can handle, it should be said.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:53
Looking good for a bunch sprint, I think.
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 14:57
I guess Bak not contributing in the breakaway tells you what Lotto's plan A is.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 15 14:59
Don't think the peloton have lost anyone, have they?
By:
nugget
When: 19 Jul 15 15:00
Climb to far from the finish for anyone to attack from the breakaway, obviously.
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