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*Tour de France - Stage 12* Thursday 16th July

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By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 13:54
Not sure I fancy either of these 3 to stay away from the break behind.
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 13:54
*any
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:02
For any of these three to stay away on the final climb, the rider will have to attack and go into bury-mode, which is that high-intensity suffering speed, and we've seen it often how they eventually just hit the wall unless they're a really good climber. Preidler looks tired already, Vanmarcke just won't have the cadence, and Kwiatkowski doesn't have the experience, I don't think, but he looks the most comfortable of the three.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:10
Preidler cracking. As this scenario plays out, there may be an opportunity to get a better price on Purito as he has shown he can light it up in this Tour when on the Mur de Huy earlier.
By:
ExpertBoy
When: 16 Jul 15 14:13
Lets go Bardet, make my day!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:13
Meintjes being played here, thinking the move is on and following the ALM rider, that'll cost him later. Bardet going way too early, Fuglsang working way too hard.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:17
If the peloton can ramp it up, it's still with them ever so slightly, these breakaway riders are going very early, with 55 kms remaining and such a tough climb to finish.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:19
Don't like Fuglsang here at all, certainly not at 2/1, but will pay him the respect of not laying him, for now.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:24
Pace ever so slightly coming on in the peloton, still with them unless a breakaway rider puts on the hurt.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:25
Vanmarcke and Kwiatkowski -- caught!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:26
Purito at 5/1 a good value saver now, I would suggest. The break just not coming that hard.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:27
Bardet the scintillating young climber, but Purito is the wily experienced campaigner -- is my thinking.
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 14:28
Rodriguez may well be bluffing but he doesn't look good to me.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:31
I agree he doesn't look exceptional, but he is smart in a cunning way, has done no work, may find the good sensations still for bury-mode on the final climb, and at 5/1 was good value to cover contingency.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:33
I like Vanmarcke, probably my favourite rider from the Belgians with Boonen, but has done nothing all season, nothing absolutely on the Cobbles, and here he is in the Pyrenees -- pity he cannot win!
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 14:37
Turning himself into the next Vandenbrouck :P
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:39
...Riding into a Top-5 finish on GC then;-)

Okay, so looks like the peloton and the GC trains will come hard on the final climb -- that was expected -- but how much time do they require by the start of the 15.8 at 7.9%, taking into account that there will be accelerations between the suitable candidates in the breakaway and then bury-mode by one of them or more? It's just too tough to work out without precise sectional times.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:40
Meintjes crashes -- inexperienced rider being pushed too hard!
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Jul 15 14:43
amazing how skys challengers have keeled over and just let them control @ their pace.
Surely they should try and put froome under severe pressure especially on these slippery /tricky descent.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:43
CJ -- how is Fuglsang still favourite for the stage win please mate?
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 14:47
I have no pictures of the front group. Watching the descent from the back of the peleton Moto. Pretty much a pick em with Fuglsang and J-Rod atm.

Seems to be name picking than anything else.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:51
Want to smash his price, but don't want to walk into a trap, however I just can't see that there is a trap with him on this finish. Not when it is this steep, and yes he has changed a little in AST to domestique for Nibali -- we saw that in Suisse and Romandie, but it just feels too easy, sadly.
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 14:55
Fuglsang doing a lot of work on the front for my liking.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:55
Okay, it's with the break, but still requires bury-mode. The candidates for mine are: Purito, Bardet, and Gorka Izagirre. Fuglsang has been given the role of leader by the team, apparently. He'll be out to impress, but just too many much better riders in my view.
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 14:57
Lightning. Might end up finishing without TV pictures here.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 14:59
Get everything ready just in case with your bets then mate.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:01
No surprise to see Kwiatkowski and Vanmarcke stretch away a little on the flat -- two strong TT riders.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:02
Kwiatkowski would need a minumu of 3 mins, but probably 4 to the attacking climbers following.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:03
Only 1.40 secs at the moment...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:04
...by the start of the final climb, that is.
By:
CJ70
When: 16 Jul 15 15:05
If the rain is this bad its advantage Kwia. Will slow them all down.
By:
ExpertBoy
When: 16 Jul 15 15:07
Im all over Bardet with 10€ at @220 already made some savers on Fulglsang and Purito, but Purito doesnt seem good to me. I still think this is for Fulglsang or Bardet.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:09
Can't see Kwiatkowski finding endless high-intensity cadence with chasers attacking -- think he will hit the wall!
By:
ExpertBoy
When: 16 Jul 15 15:10
No way Kwia wins this, its too much of a climb for him
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:14
The thing with Kwiatkowski is that not even he knows what sort of rider he is yet -- yes a versatile puncheur with a strong engine, but perhaps he might also be a climber, one day. They've talked about challenging him for the GC, but it's true he has not been a climber in the past, and is to be resisted. Doing it hard on the front though, just now!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:16
Vanmarcke has cracked as expected!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:17
Cherel following the script -- giving Bardet every chance here. Purito being smart in just behind, Fuglsang not exactly comfortable.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 16 Jul 15 15:21
What's Kwiatkowski's gap?
By:
ExpertBoy
When: 16 Jul 15 15:21
1:30 latest time check
By:
ExpertBoy
When: 16 Jul 15 15:24
FUlglsang attacks, Bardet and Purito follow
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