Surprised people were surprised with Dumoulin's tt performance.  Also I was surprised Martin was favoutite for the stage yet Dumoulin was 50-1.  I was first to mention Martin shouldn't be fav in the tt.


SwingingPick
"I mean, what are we doing here if not attempting to find consistent profitable outcomes through sharing good information and finding consensus on solid plans of action?"

I did bring up the fact about the TT being the same as the last 18.3km of stage 5 (did you watch the last 18km of stage 5? who looked strong?), useful info I would of thought.  Info you failed to bring up, info which was vital in making a well informed bet for the stage and the GC.

nugget
back Rodriguez at 17's and Henao at 10's for the gc.

stop winding me up SP

SwingingPick
However, informing how you're betting is worth nothing if you're not providing the reasoning for it, since reasons is what convinces people to follow your selections. Think about it, mate.

I should of said I think they will win because a pterodactyl will swoop down, pluck them out of the peleton and drop them off at the finish line.  I backed Rodriguez at 17's and Henao at 10's.  Why? Value? Because I think they will finish the race quicker than the others? Its not rocket science.  Would you be happier if people tipped losers and gave long winded reasons as to why they could of won.  I certainly don't want to deter people from giving their opinions but I find a little bit of info trading and some useful observations can go a long way.  I dont know about you but I'm not really here to try to convince people.



Anyway, I dont care what you say, the best info in this thread was the mentioning of the profile of the decisive stage 6 TT.

   "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat for ever"  -Arrested Development



SwingingPick
I openly admit I did nothing useful here  - Don't be so hard on yourself.

I was just clarifying for the people surprised with both results, it might help to keep in mind going forward for future races.  If I had of been at the computer I might of mentioned it, or maybe not as I would of seen my Dumoulin bet not getting matched at a price which was available at other places.

Rodriguez and Henao put 12 seconds into the other contenders in the last 200m of the last climb on stage 5. (Yates put even more time in). J-Rod is ok on a technical descent, he'd certainly prefer that over pan flat of which in this TT there was only about 1km out of 18.3km.  The first time check at 10.6km of the course (the descent) took only about 10minutes, the final 7.7km(the two climbs) took nearly twice as long.  It was the two climbs with sections of 20%+ where the difference was going to be made.  Dumoulin knew this as interestingly he was no where near the top of the list at the first time check but obviously finished like a steam train.   
J-Rod just had that little bit of veteran savvy to keep a bit in the tank to get over Henao in the end.  What a comeback from Henao after being out for so long, he surely will be a player in the ardennes.  I thought Simon Yates was super impressive too and Felline is no joke aswell.