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Should be a tough stage for GC contenders contenders todays and Nibali is a worthy favourite, 3/1 does not look value now but may do about 4.40pm tomorrow
Purito will surely try for more KOM points tomorrow but again 7/1 is too short, Time to pick a flyer for me at a big price and the guy i like is The Belkin climber Steven Kruijswijk which should be a big score in scrabble. Belkin riders are going to have to perform in this race to attract contract offers for next season.Hopefully Ten Dam will marshall Bauke Mollema and Kruijswijk can get in a break and stay away generally 125/1 |
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Agree this should come down to a Gc scrap, obviously Nibali is a worthy fav and the man to beat, but I'm really keen on Tejay Van Garderen, i think 40/1 is great ew value.
I backed TJVG for the outright at the start as had a feeling he was going to have a really big tour, and he hasn't disappointed despite a couple of setbacks. He looked strong early on particularly in stage 2 but then suffered a big crash at a bad time towards the end of stage 7. Which resulted in him losing 1m 09, without that unfortunate loss he would be sitting 3rd or 4th already on GC. I was worried about him last weekend and how the crash would effect him, i thought he would just have to survive as best he could until the rest day. But he was surprisingly strong, particularly on mondays stage 10. With the rest day and further time to recover behind him since then, I can only see him getting stronger, and if this does come down to the gc riders he has to be bang there. Have also had some more of the 40/1 ew for the outright, as I'm getting more and more confident he is going to at least podium, and if he does put up a big performance tomorrow he will be a lot shorter than that tomorrow night. Gl all. |
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Quality opinions gents, really enjoyed reading that, thanks for making the effort to go beyond just sticking up your picks without any reason or evidence that you've been with the Tour, and the peloton, for the duration so far. Very refreshing. Cheers, SP
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I'm agreeing with everything that's been said so far. Whilst Nibali doesn't need to win, he will if he feels strong enough and could put the final nail in the coffin here. Similarly, if Porte is going to challenge for the jersey, today is the day, he claims that these stages suit him best and so will be all out to put time into Nibali, whether he can or not I don't know, but at the same price to place as Nibali is to win, I think the value lies there.
Outsiders; Kadri has done it before this tour and has had a quiet week, perhaps building up to another big effort? At 130 it's cheap to find out. Scarponi is massive at 320, we've seen it before where the hardman drags the GC contender clear and is 'given' the victory. Either way, if Nibali looks content to mark, you will be able to get out lower. |
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J-Rod has said he'll be going for this but at 7's I don't know if he has the form to stick with the big boys. They certainly wont chase him if he goes on the last climb, but will he still be there?
Not overly convinced that the GC boys will have it all their own way for the podium, so not touching any of the short stuff. I'm going for JC Peraud at 100's with two men in the top 10 AG2R can go for the double team and JCP has looked impressive so far. As with all stages like this I'll be laying those getting dropped. |
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its so hard to know who is going for stage win
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Scarponi
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Rui Costa is feeling better but he will be happy to follow the favourites, he said this in his personal diary.
For me, i wont bet nothing pre live. Although i like Brice Feillu, Kadri and Voecler for a big win |
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Was also looking at Schleck(F) because he is bound to try something even though it will end in glorious failure, but he's so short even after being uncompetetive(literally) for years.
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there's my 2 boys, Feillu and Kadri! GO GO GO
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wtf is katusha doing? i cant see rodriguez winning against the GC guys
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Defending against Kadri I guess. Not sure he's a big threat though.
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not sure thats the best strategy...
Now the time is going up... good climbers on the breakaway, i like durasek @100 has i already have kadri and feillu |
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What the hell has happened with Navarro??
I haven't seen anyone that bad on a bike since the real old days. Hope he's ok. |
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surely rodriguez will jump in the first climb...
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AST is loving this stage so far
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nibali 2,80 has to be a lay...
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whats up with Garmin riders?
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Yepp Layed Nibali. We know J-Rod is going to go, so should drift when he does.
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What was Europcar's plan? You can write a book on bizarre Europcar tactics.
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lol europcar is a joke. Riding hard and then the whole team blows and Rolland sits tight. Katusha also strange tactics although rodriguez can now be 4º in the climb and save energy.
Thank God i layed Nibali pretty hard, this gap should come up till 4-5min before it starts decreasing |
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anyone knows well De Marchi downhill skills?
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3:10 seems a bit short, but you never know...
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fdj taking the pace... it was going so good for me... but 3:40 seems a bit better, it really depend on how de marchi is feeling
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Losing time from the live heavily now so just watching for fun.
I doubt if Fuglsang is going to be able to work today or tomorrow for Nibali with that amount of skin left on the road. |
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Nibali isolated soon
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J-Rod blown. You were right with Katusa tactics being off as well.
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Aww Richie
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Porte could lose 8 mins here...why is Nieve still towing him
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Valverde is such a lazy so & so.
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thats super from nibali, what a diference!
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One word for that. Dominance!
Valverde proving he's a bit of a sh*t and probably the reason he's not cut out for being a winner. Great rides by Leopold, Pinot, TJ and Bardet. Loved that. |
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europcar and katusha did a great job for Nibali. I guess tomorrow we wont see any team picking up in the race, because they would just be giving Nibali the stage victory
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That's a fantastic mullet Oleg has got going.
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WD SP, you deserved a result for all these great write ups.
Now give us tomorrows winner! Doubt it will be Nibali myself, it's pretty much 'job done' now and all he has to do is mark. Might be worth looking at someone pushing for the podium who might jump off the front with 2km to go. Pinot being the obvious candidate, as he is riding so well, 15 on here. Rolland will want to finish T10 and so might want to steal a few minutes too, 16 or 18/1 at PP. |
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conclusions from todays stage
Nibali looks different class at the moment and it is up to him if he wants to win a mountain stage Kudos to Frank Schleck written off many times but a classy ride today Rolland looks very tired and has done for a few days, he will not carry any money of mine for the rest of this tour Pinot looks a great prospect but definitely wont be leaving FDJ How high in GC would Geraint Thomas be if he had been allowed to ride his own race. He has probably fallen more than any other rider but has the knack of falling soft and making little of each fall. He was in the leading group over the Pave when he had to go back for Porte and ride him back into the race and again today although he was dropped he could have finished much higher up |
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Cheers DO, appreciate your sentiments mate.
The thing with Nibali is that he may want to confirm his strength in this race with more such strong performances. If the GC group closes down the breakaway or the breakaway cracks in the tough and hot conditions, so that we essentially see the GC group as the first group on the road heading for home, then they may call a truce until the finale where either of the two you mention (and others) may look to jump for the line and therefore the stage win. Pinot looked the best in a very long time when in close combat with Valverde. Bardet is becoming a messy rider and in that mini race for the next French GC contender in the Tour, Pinot is the deserving favourite on the back of this ride. There'll definitely be enthusiasm by riders for the stage victory, but I'm not sure there are enough clever and/or strong enough riders to time their attack for a stage win in a perfect manner, because that's what's required right now, I think. Obviously surprised with Porte's ride, didn't see that coming, however he didn't look like he was suffering with the heat, but rather with the climbing. He appeared like he just didn't have the legs after fading out so early, and it looked quite strange, really. I know some riders that don't deal with the pressure of expectation well, can sour their legs along the flat road leading to a climb and just slide away like that, so perhaps that's what has happened with Porte. I should find something on him before tomorrow's stage, but right now it's unlikely he'll hit back with a strong ride for the next stage. Cheers, SP |
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Agree with most of those assessments, for those I didn't mention when completing my reply, CM.
Also, FDJ could do better for themselves if they built a stronger team around Pinot. That kind of move might stimulate him even more if they did, because the promise has been there since 2012 when he was only 22yo. Having said that I wasn't aware there was any speculation that he might leave his team? SP |
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There were rumours that Pinot was going to SKY but he seems set to re-sign with FDJ now.
Porte was ill and nauseus today. I'd rule him out of everything until the Pyrenees. |