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By:
Aptdemon
When: 16 Oct 24 13:12
Means nothing but I wonder...had Duckett fallen first - rather than Root - would Brook and Root have 'felt' something coming together again and resumed where they left off with the epic partnership...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 16 Oct 24 13:15
Be really quite something if Smith could make a 40+ here, in this exact sitch.

Doesn't get much more tricky than wickie for 120+ overs then come in, with the tail, after your team has just gone 14-4.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 16 Oct 24 13:17
Feels like the match is on the precipice here.

A wicket will open this up


Also...this was a decent take Cool
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Oct 24 13:24
I think everybody realised the pitch is changing and scoring runs would become more and more difficult. I did not expect Roof to onshore such a loose shot bug did from Ducket after getting to 100.

The pitch is not a mine field yet but everybody’s mind set has changed.

Would really like Pakistan to get one more tonight and then load up on England and the draw tomorrow. I am sitting pretty right now but there is always the fear of having your money on Pakistan from a winning position.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Oct 24 13:33
That was a incredible hour a twenty!

The difference is that we have a Test Match now and Pakistan believe they are in it.
By:
elisjohn
When: 16 Oct 24 13:55
i know the middle order has scored some runs lately, but they are still very fragile
By:
hunt lunt and cunningham
When: 16 Oct 24 22:20
Well have loaded up on draw because even if it's not the prices are so big that you can make  a lot and risk hardly anything. Still lots that can happen in 3 days and if Pakistan can bat England out the game I think they will try. A draw for them is a result after last week. But it's all guesswork so take the big prices and enjoy and you don't have to get stressed.!!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 06:28
I expect the draw to go out more. It is going to keep spinning.

I need to clear England red but more than happy to wait
By:
elisjohn
When: 17 Oct 24 06:32
theyre not half as good as they think they are 211-2 to this  Cry
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 06:36
Well, they're tailenders for a reason so I shan't be too critical of Carse there.

He looks fairly tidy, though, so it's more disappointment.

England relying on Pakistan having their x successive sub-200 2nd innings dig, now.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 06:36
Bit harsh elis
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 06:39
Collapses happen to every side.

England declared 800, and won by an innings, less than a week ago.
By:
elisjohn
When: 17 Oct 24 06:41
fair play to Alex Hartley she thinks thats its very likely that pak will have a 1st innings lead Cry
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 06:43
Pakistan were too short at 1.40 but market feels about right just now, given Pakistan's recent history.

Hard to conjure too many plausible paths to England victory just now, mind you.

180 in the fourth feels massive, let alone 250+.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 06:46
But then England can always skim off 50 in the first 7 overs, with a fair wind, and heads can become scrambled.

Love the game.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 07:32
Elsewhere, India 34-6 in 23.5 overs...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 07:46
Two top-order batters out, for less than the price of the Leach-Bashir last wicket stand, is something.

More, please.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 07:50
Elsewhere, India 34-6 in 23.5 overs...

...after winning the toss and batting.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 08:13
Elsewhere, India 34-6 in 23.5 overs...

...after winning the toss and batting.


Run-line started off at 378.5!

India 34-7.
By:
elisjohn
When: 17 Oct 24 08:22
5 ducks
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 08:23
TWO is the third highest batter score Surprised

40-8
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 09:09
Back to Pakistan England...

This is such a good Test match right now Excited
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 09:45
Very difficult to work out how many Pakistan will need
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 09:59
Very difficult to work out how many Pakistan will need

Isn't it just.

I could believe they already have enough, but I wouldn't be amazed if we chased 282. (shrugs)
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 10:02
There we go. Rizwan should have stayed away from Carse and not taken two
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 10:04
Damn!

Just got caught on the wrong side of that wicket, grrrr Whoops
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 10:24
Oh no, two drops in two minutes Sad
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 11:07
Crucial session. Pitch seems ok today so Pakistan need to bat for over an hour imho. Double jeopardy for England is if they do run through Pakistan they will have to bat at the end of a hot day.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 11:09
Market on the move again. They think it is all over!
By:
spyker
When: 17 Oct 24 11:17
How on earth did he give that not out?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 11:17
I love this game

England still not out of this!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 11:17
I love this game

England still not out of this!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 11:18
Yet
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 11:46
However this period plays out, one thing is certain...

If England don't lose a wicket in the first four overs - the bottom will drop out of the market
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 12:06
Some pace to test Sajid?
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 12:15
Wasn't it Salman that they didn't review (when he nicked) in the first innings?

If so, that's four lives Cry
By:
Aptdemon
When: 17 Oct 24 12:15
Wasn't it Salman that they didn't review (when he nicked) in the first innings?

If so, that's four lives Cry
By:
elisjohn
When: 17 Oct 24 12:18
sageform • October 16, 2024 8:42 AM BST
Why does England find it so hard to take the last 2 wickets in test matches? It has been going on for years against all teams on all surfaces. I know that balls get soft etc. but this has been a feature of the team foe ever. I would love to see data on the percentage of runs given away by England for each wicket in Test matches compared to other sides.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 12:18
Seems like the batters are in and the ball is soft.

I did expect a little more from the pitch in the last session. Still time for that today.

The Smith drop could well have changed the course of the match
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 17 Oct 24 12:19
Ordinarily don’t they usually run through the tail with a quick like Wood?
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