Second test Nottingham.

oops, 2 wickets in 2 balls. Didn't see that coming.

Gough called it right. I think TV commentators got it wrong ( I think ). Good toss to lose. Looks a belter of a pitch and we did not bowl well today. Lucky to get the 2 wickets to keep us in it.

Bowling full is smart but not wide. That first Broad over after lunch was terrible.

And that dropped catch by Crawley demonstrates where Broad should be bowling

Thinking about a cheeky back of Ingerlund here.

England back territory rather

Anyone from the area?

Does it swing more after tea?

Does the pitch bat better days 2 and 3?

Draw finally below what it was after 10 overs! I know 5 days with no rain delays is a long time but at this rate there will only be 85 overs each day. Review coming!

NZ got away with one there.

Still not sure why NZ are so short after the last game and without Williamson. England could just as easily get 500 on this pitch.

Williamson no loss,bang out of form
Eng COULD get 500 but it'll take 2 inns

England waiting for new ball now.

I think the pitch is wearing. England didn’t bowl well but gif some good wickets. NZ batted well but got and 4 catches were dropped. NZ in box seat.

Nice not to have any women commentators in this series
Butch is a top commentator, surprised he doesn't get more tests

Poor old Broady's pub has burnt down nudge nudge wink wink

u've got that Mel Jones dog..she gets right on my t1ts

I refer the gentleman to my previous comment

She's got a deeper voice than James Earl Jones

Duke balls made in Pakistan now
I had images of a bald old white man stitching the balls by hand

Kiwis need to press on this last 1/2 hr b4 lunch,declare,bowl Eng out twice by 2moro eve,nice inns win,job's a goodun and keep KW out of the side

Draw still shortening fast.

this SHOULD be a nailed on draw
i've been laying it purely on the basis that u can't trust the Eng batters
but ffs it's a runway

This is what they call a chairman's wicket

England still need a top 3.

I am sure Kees is a decent cricketer band score runs on wickets like this but he is not equipped to do well at this level. Planting your feet and swinging the bat might work at county level but not against the best and he will continue to be found out against decent bowlers.

CrWkey and particularly Pope have it but again Crawley needs to tighten up. Pope will continue to get out if he plays across straight balls. He is though looking good in this pitch. Could be a good player if he gets some good coaching or better still advice.

england 4.7 at 5pm day 3 = layed - cant see it even with Stokes enjoying himself.... time will tell......

Already seeing a difference with Stokes captain

More fight in them already? Root is to nice with the team and the opposition, Stokes strikes me as someone who has that “run through brick walls for him” vibe.

Still on the draw but a bit surprised that it has not really shortened up since tea. Back out to 1.5 now. Anyone really see a winner and if so who? If England declare when ahead (and why would they) NZ need to score 350 plus tomorrow in 5 hours and then hope to bowl England out again. England are one up so why would they take any risks? Only the first 20 overs of each new ball seem to pose any threat to batters.

Ordinarily yes you'd think why wouldn't England just bat on, but we're in the era of McCullum the Brave now :) If he sent his captain out swinging yesterday when they were still over 200 behind, maybe they'll bat up to 550 or let Rooty get 200, then declare. Then the ball's in the Kiwi's court, sure they could smash 350 but if England hold some catches they could be bowled out for 250. We've seen hardly any variable bounce, Kiwis have no frontline spinner and Jamieson is waiting on an MRI scan. Who knows whether the series result will even come into the reckoning? England can't make it into the final of the test championship so they may consider this series a free hit.

Can’t see a declaration! England are  still 80 behind. Let’s get there first! Furthermore why would you give NZ a sniff of winning! Bat, bat and bat. No rush. Bat all day if you can. Bat tomorrow morning if you still gave wickets in hand and hood the pitch will deteriorate. No brained!

Agreed, bat on and they can't lose. The possibility of something funky is keeping people from lumping on the draw maybe and getting stung.

Prices seem a little crazy. NZ could still win this and they are over 30!

These two are batting really well! Boule is getting swing from thd hand from a very old ball! Anything could happen here. I have NZ Green so not going to punt this any further but I would like to see how a new batsman might fare!

Most unfortunate

Would loved to have seen England put NZ under the pump. I hope the rest come out swinging

Went out to 48!

Great catch NZ back in to 16

Draw backers in trouble here!

I suggest the ball might swing after the lawyer comes off. Nice cloud cover and if the sun comes out Leach may play his part.

England could also lose this just as easily.

Pitch is dtill good enough to see out a draw so J shall green out on all three results and maybe a bucket on the Thai

Where did six inches of seam movement suddenly appear from?

Cloud, lights, the right ball, wearing wicket, rest for the old guys all combine and that’s cricket for you!

Market doesn't seem to be giving NZ much credit for their runs

Agreed. 250 infron and they have a chance of winning it!

Ole!

Potts!

Give the Abo a break Timber, she is a very knowledgeable woman.

how do you turn a runway(and make no bones about it ..it is nothing but a runway) into what appears a quasi minefield?

you choke your pathetic Kiwi ar ses off.

Kwality run out!

That is some choke!

Mind you cobber J don’t think your gun is over. You might get even more of a laugh eating England bat. Odds for 40-4 The Ingerland? zIngerland?

Can you imagine the reaction if Pakistan were battingp

Have the Indian bookmakers had a hand in this! I have rarely seen a team collapse like this despite very routine bowling.

NZ have still got a good chance of winning this!

But if yoh have backed the draw I fully inderstyyiur frustration and anger!

I backed England when NZ were 4 down in thd first innings. Thd ball was wobbling a little and then it gets deposited in some woman’s cider…. Result 553!

I am looking to have a nice little 3 way green now. Need to check if I have the Thai as well

unless these last 3 wkts add some 50 odd runs and take time doing it which would take the run chase almost out of the equation (save a prolonged T20 assault)

it is set up for a truly absorbing day 2moro with all 3 results possible

can Eng do a Lords victory and if not can they stave off defeat by eking out a draw?

England will go for a win tomorrow. It should be a great days cricket. Pitch still looks fairly decent. Small boundaries and fast outfield. England do need the 3 wickets quickly. NZ die. The talk bowler who would be dangerous in the mast day against a side batting to win.

England chasing another unlikely win

This is what happens when you have an attack minded coach and captain

Root would have defended and set a awful field today

New ball due in 11 overs. England should be batting before lunch and I feel sure the coach/captain will instruct the team to go for the win.

England chasing 280 -300 in 70 overs ?

Wev'e got a great days cricket ahead.

my crystal ball tells me Albion's crash and burn policy will result in the former

they will look like getting there and then one major wkt will beget others as in the pathetic collapse in the 1st inns

both teams poor 2nd inns batting will ensure a million to one on draw will likely not eventuate

Still happy with my draw bet from day 1 though I did lay it off to leave a small profit on any outcome. The new ball will decide it in the next hour.

Not when NZ tail swipe at every bouncer like that! What are they thinking? Hold up an end and let Mitchell get another 20.

braindead 'batting' from the Kiwi bottlers

Well done Mitchell. 274 not a gimme for England.

And well done Boult! Could NZ win after all? If England start a rash chase they might be in trouble.

he likes a thrash does our Trent

Kiwis winning is probably the likeliest of the outcomes in as much as no test side seems capable de nos jours of batting as opposed to thrashing in order to draw a match..all too prone to collapsing under pressure and out of their comfort zones

Too hard to call. Crawley gets going and the pressure is on. Crawley gets out and the pressure is on. Could end as a damp squib but it is great viewing atm!

Crawley waste of space. They need Pope and Root to settle down and score at a sensible rate and hope they can go for it after tea.

Seem to have given Lees the chance to score big and fast to see if they can get to a winning position.

Do we get all of the 63 overs in ?

Lunch to tea
Day 1 (Eng bowling)  25 overs
Day 2 Rain affected 13.33 overs
Day 3 NZ bowling 28 overs
Day 4 Eng bowling 28 overs
Tea to close
Day 1 Eng bowling 36 overs
Day 2 42.66 overs (Early tea due to rain)
Day 3 32 overs, NZ bowling
Day 4 32 overs, Eng bowling

Across both sessions
Day 1: 61 (Eng)
Day 2: 56 (NZ, rain)
Day 3: 60 NZ
Day 4: 60 Eng

We've got 63 overs left and lunch was taken at 1:04.

Is there more time on the final day or some such ?

Probably not they will slow it down if they are losing. 15 overs in the last hour.

Or England might have some long chats in the middle at this rate :D

The ball will go soft soon. I think Bstard will go after Bracewell. I certainly hope he does. There is still time for England as Boult and Henry need a rest. It should be exciting and keep all results open. I certainly hope England go after the debutant.

Here we go

Wild odds fluctuation. If you can buy high sell low you can make some good money!

Glad lees is out! Stokes and Bstard can manoeuvre the ball around the pitch to keep the game a live but not much batting left after these two. I think the draw is likely now so hope Bracewell gets into the action as I have green on England and NZ to transfer. Unlikely |England price will move to satisfactory levels so my money is resting on more wickets to create doubt.

Surprised that the draw is still just odds on. I would make NZ favourite now but still sitting on the draw bets. What ever they say, surely England will prefer a draw to risking a loss?

It says minimum 40 overs today so we could be facing a long session after tea. That will be tough on NZ.

Still think a draw is likely here and need to green soon. The temptation is to wait because these two are game changers. See of Boult here and England are also looking strong

Ashley

Not sure if the draw is likely. Not much faith in the tail. Depends how long these two bat. they must make it through this over and to tea!

you can't lose overs on the final day bar bad light or rain, Jimbob.

Light is good today. The days will be getting shorter in a couple of weeks!

Still no idea what is going to happen. Just cannot green out yet!

OK It says 38 overs left, but how many will there actually be. Does the "final hour" begin at 17:30 ?
You'd expect 35 overs if that was the case - not 38.

Yep have to bowl all the overs on the last day, so Kiwis can only really bowl wide outside the off stump if england get close.

Had to clear the red. Now just going to let it ride I think and maybe a nicker on NZ should these two go nuts!

Took a healthy green. can't beleive how easy it has been for these two but this is one helluva innings by Bstard.

Go on my son.ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Mind you I love that Gilbert Jessop still is on the books!

He should have gone for the record.

Glory and immortality all day long for me!

There is no me in team.......... oh yes there is!

I think that goes down as an Adidas 3 stripe choke from the Kiwi's. I wonder if Suzie the waitress was at their hotel last night?

I cannot for the life of me understand why they would bowl short to Bstard to the short boundary? Always bowl top of off to him. He gets bowled so often and this is the 5th day. Madness from Black Cats.

It is not even 5 o clock!

I thought we were on for a late one

Im liking Stokes as captain

All out thunder

let's not get carried away here too much
good as that partnership between the 2 gingers was
are you seriously telling me it's smth that couldn't have been replicated on demand by Boycott and Tavare had it been required of them?
and another thing i sincerely doubt we would've witnessed that blitzkrieg prior to the advent of T20
when he's on it JB is uber destructive
unbelievable r/r post tea even for a T20
another expert bout of rope-a-doping by Eng
btw that has to be one of the highest 1st inns total to lose a test from?!
just a runway

Its good in that if it was Root and Silverback still in charge wed have tried to defend and been out for less than 150

Weve got attacking players so they need to be allowed to attack its their nature, telling them to defend will only lead to confusion and loose shots

let's not get carried away here too much

I picked up on that too! Bring on the Aussies, India, whoever! erm no! We still need a top 3 and a fast bowler and a spinner and as exciting as Johnny was a batsmen who plays straight and averages more than 34. We also need an all rounder and I hope they try and get Moen in before we go to Pakistan. Sorry for Leach but he has no guile.

are you seriously telling me it's smth that couldn't have been replicated on demand by Boycott and Tavare had it been required of them?


Yes Johnny! we are telling you they could not! That was an exceptional knock from Bstard not helped by stupidity of trying to bounce him on a flat wicket with a short boundary and medium fast bowlers. I am sort of glad Gilbert Jessop still holds the record. Johnny is a nice lad and I wish him well but I am now glad he did not get the record.

btw that has to be one of the highest 1st inns total to lose a test from?!


6th highest!
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It wasn't a complete runway. There was a bit of wobble. I backed England when NZ were something like 227-4 I think hoping for a couple of quick wickets!. The ball was showing signs of swing until it landed in the cider! But good surface certainly for a Test Match!

fair play to England..it was phenomenally sustained aggression but it was a belter to bat on,fast outfield,smallish ground and Boult aside(and even he came in for some stick) the bowling didn't really trouble the batsmen

what i would like to see proof of and this is true of basically all the top test sides,is,had the onslaught been stopped in its tracks by a cpl of quick wkts falling ,could the side have 'dug in' to attritionally save the game?

if they are capable of so doing it bodes well but remain to be convinced

it was an exhilirating game re runs scored but not enough in the pitch for the bowlers imho

Oh for sure we aint beating the Aussies away quite yet

But under the old lot we were losing these tests last year, we collapsed like a deck of cards

Already seen improvement just need to build in it

Delighted to see that Root and Bairstow have risen magnificently above the appalling, ridiculous and totally unjustified slating that Yorkshire Cricket and Cricketers were subjected to last year by various chancers.

This is a cricket thread alun,

Can't you take your filth to another forum,,,,please?