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elisjohn
14 Jun 21 12:17
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very impressed with new zealand in the 2 tests v england, and reckon they should be fav , the draw has plummeted from around 7 4 to 4.5 last few days ( must be rain), but i did hear that if play is lost overs  could be played on a 6th day ?,  .Will both teams settle for a nice draw and share the prize money , ?,   im going for a new zealand victory , but with the euros and r ascot doubt ill be following much of this match.
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Report elisjohn June 23, 2021 10:49 AM BST
1 test ever world championship, what a shower pathetic even allowing for 2 days rain, do a league table instead, CryCryCryCry
Report jmdc June 23, 2021 10:57 AM BST
Already been done.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 10:58 AM BST
It’s cricket elis

Just one of those things that makes it such a great game!

...and it is back on!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:07 AM BST
Here we go. We need another quick wicket and a Panty special.
Report elisjohn June 23, 2021 11:16 AM BST
oh, could be interesting dayLaugh
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:18 AM BST
Omfg!

Dropped a dolly!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:18 AM BST
Southern of all people!
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 11:19 AM BST
butter fingers Southee yet again..we'll see how pivotal this might be
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:23 AM BST
One more wicket and India will struggle to set a total!

I see Rahane is not going to hand around a look to score. Ideally I would like some fast runs and even a total of 175 to possibly bring all three results back into play.

I should really small green but my compulsion is to gamble for a big green rather than just get my money back.
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 11:25 AM BST
i mean if NZ get India out relatively cheaply will they be able to dig in for the draw?Wink
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:26 AM BST
Jamiesons control of length has been fantastic and he got Kohli out playing forward to a ball just short of a good length. He brought him forward beautifully
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 11:29 AM BST
amazing really to see the fall of next wkt only 18 runs above the present total with a pair of damn good batsmen at the crease

testament to Kiwi Bowling and conditions and fall of wkts to date or complete lack of trust in India to knucle down?

or.perish the thought is there some bug in the air or smth?
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:40 AM BST
Pretty tense out there!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:40 AM BST
Go on my son!

Expect a short one soonLaugh
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:42 AM BST
Nice from Waggoner. Ball is still doing things. Why pitch it short!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 11:57 AM BST
He really has to resist the urge to go short here. Plenty in the pitch.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 12:00 PM BST
I do like Atherton, top summariser
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 12:05 PM BST
increasingly squeaky bum time for 1.11 draw backers
Report elisjohn June 23, 2021 12:05 PM BST
funny old game, this wont be a draw
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 12:06 PM BST
Yeah baby yeah

I just was thinking about how bad a game Boult was having and I would take him off! Was also just getting ready for an NZ top up at 5 but I am well loaded both sides against the draw. Question is now to tak3 money back and walk away or let it all ride.

Omfg Panty!

Ride Sally ride!
Report peckerdunne June 23, 2021 12:35 PM BST
This 5 day test thing is such a boring load of old bollox ha
Report peckerdunne June 23, 2021 12:38 PM BST
Atherton is class

Ebony has opinions too you know

Today her opinion is that espoused by Doully yesterday
Report SuckMyBallsHamlin June 23, 2021 1:51 PM BST
1.62 DrawLove
Report detraveller June 23, 2021 2:13 PM BST
Unless NZ get them out in the next 10 overs, they'll have to chase over 3 an over and I don't think it'll be that easy on this pitch. Draw looking too big to me.
Report detraveller June 23, 2021 2:16 PM BST
gone
Report detraveller June 23, 2021 2:16 PM BST
jesus christ this is not going to be a draw!
Report VardonVoo. June 23, 2021 2:16 PM BST
GAME ON!
Report DirkDiggler June 23, 2021 2:16 PM BST
Shocking stuff

Laugh
Report DirkDiggler June 23, 2021 2:21 PM BST
Woo hoo!!!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:26 PM BST
Yeah baby yeah

I just was thinking about how bad a game Boult was having and I would take him off!


Cricket genius!
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:27 PM BST
some of these shots would be frowned upon in T20s which will soon be the longest format of the game

v poor from the Indians,out of their comfort zone but they can take solace that they will get some mojo back

in the tests to come..at the end of the day ..they're only playing England ffsLaugh
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:30 PM BST
Was just about to say before that 4 is would it be worth an NZ lay? A few quick runs from Shami buy back, lay again when India are all out buy back on loss of wickets!

The question for me is can this be a draw and should I cover it now.

Cause for speculation your honour. I don't usually gamble on the last day. Too easy to get it wrong so I won't. May or may not cover the draw if it goes to ridiculous.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:34 PM BST
Goddam


did NZ just go up to 3.55?
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:36 PM BST
were NZ facing their own bowlers the draw could still be on if they get off to a poor start

but the Indian bowlers haven't had the same penetration but one never knows

it will actually be a poor reflection on the Kiwi batting if they can't grasp the mettle and finish off what their bowlers have done so manfully
Report DirkDiggler June 23, 2021 2:38 PM BST
LOL!!!


I've been in this test match for about 6 overs in total.


Laugh
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:39 PM BST
u missed a word out there..Wd..a word these days that can never speak its nameLaugh
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:40 PM BST
Need a couple of quick wickets to bring my India green into play!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:40 PM BST
Wink
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:43 PM BST
surely 10.5 to lay India is a gift from the gods

even in this day and age of major capitulative collapses

NZ couldn't contrive to get allout if things started to go awry in the run chase?
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:44 PM BST
If you have steel cajones you can make so much money on the last day.

Trading is just not my style of gambling but I am Adam Ant I just saw NZ at 3.55 after a couple of fours and just before the ninth wicket. NI was going to execute but he got out to the fly slip next ball!

India were 30 at one point. Two quick wickets like India will be single figures possibly sub 6 or lower

and that is forgetting the excitement of the game itself if you are investeed as a fan of either side or lover of the game.

Nobody could begrudge NZ this except 1 billion Indians!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:45 PM BST
Dont think so Johnny just yet!

Wait for a couple of quick wickets then do it!
Report jmdc June 23, 2021 2:46 PM BST
Judging on the opportunity Williamson gave England to achieve a result I can’t see them ever playing for a draw.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:46 PM BST
real shame though as I would loved to have seen Ashwin and Jadeja bowl on this to a crowded field.

If Latham takes first strike I would give Ashwin the ball even for 1 over to get into their heads!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:47 PM BST
Laugh

Sibley not out 5, who are you kidding!
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:48 PM BST
i was thinking same Wd but conversely if they make a reasonable start India will drift like the Kon Tiki and subsequent wkts won't reduce their price overly
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:50 PM BST
I bet a pound to make 10 johhny not the other way round.....I guess that is why I am poor and not a BankerLaugh!
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:53 PM BST
i'm not a big odds on backer..that's a conceited mugs game but sometimes when smth should be 20s on or skinnier as a layer and 10s is available it's an opportunity

what do they say..success is when hard work meets opportunity?
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 2:58 PM BST
anyhow,as far as i'm concerned it's good to see pitches that reward good bowling and u have to earn ur runs as a batsman rather than dull 500 plays 500

mind u the way nearly all test batsmen bat these days they are doing well to get 500 in 2 inns let alone 0ne!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 2:59 PM BST
No success is when

you're daddy's rich and
your momma's good looking

and you can back 1/10 certs!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:00 PM BST
Quite a magnificent Test Match. Just a shame we lost so much time that the spinners may not get a chance
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 3:01 PM BST
is there a possibility that this could be a draw,not because NZ lose wkts but that they may not score quickly enough?
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:01 PM BST
oh those summers when the fish were were jumping and the cotton was highSad

Lovely and sunny here though!
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 3:02 PM BST
Ella FitzgeraldGrin
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:03 PM BST
Not really I mean it is always there. The only chance that happens is a mighty calypso collapso and them hanging on for grim death but I just cannot see it.

I should have greened but I was hoping for an early wicket or two. Am happy to wait.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:05 PM BST
Kathleen Battle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRnQ-fyQldE

You can have Ella. I will stick with Kathleen and no two's thank you very much!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:12 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnXLVTi_m_M

I think I like Old Satchmo better than Ella!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:13 PM BST
India bowling pish here.

I think they should also try over the wicket to Conway and try and bring the odd one back into him through the gate and slide the rest across him
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:23 PM BST
This wicket would have really suited both Bhuvneswar Kumar and Mohammed Siraj. Easy to say in hindsight but with foresight who would you have left out? Bumrah and Ishant? Can't see who could have made that decision. One of them could have played instead of one of the spinners but if it did not rain on Monday they would be in the game now but I think yes one of the spinners should not have played perhaps.
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 3:31 PM BST
it's more so the batters who have let the side down albeit against exemplary Kiwi bowling

some ill judged shots and dismissals in both inns from their main men
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 3:52 PM BST
maybe but have a good long at the over this morning where Jamieson set up Kohli. The way he drew his length back was kwality!

Some of the dismissals ahve looked soft but there has been some very good batting or rather application show imho
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:07 PM BST
here we go!

Hoping to utilise this India green! God help us if they win though!

Need a second quick wicket to make things interesting. Coulda shoulda woulda taken some some draw at near 30!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:10 PM BST
No need for that from Latham!

Don't you love Pant!

You have to smile when you hear his laugh!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:17 PM BST
Looks out.
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:18 PM BST
Wowee, was sure that was into leg
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:18 PM BST
oh man that would have made it soooo interesting for the rest of us!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:19 PM BST
Indeed!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:22 PM BST
cutted and nutted!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:27 PM BST
C'mon Come on!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:27 PM BST
Limpet gone!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:29 PM BST
Draw price shortening is not what I has envisaged tbf but there are something like n35 overs to go technically anyway. Who would pull the drawbridge up? send in the Big Man to smash this total down quickly and give confidence to the others. Get Bumrah on for LT!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:30 PM BST
Good shout Sunny.

You could thor in Wagner, Southee and The Big man before LT. Hit out and get out but reduce the total!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:31 PM BST
Really need two more wickets to get into the chokers head!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:32 PM BST
Think Jamieson call would have been brilliant.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:33 PM BST
If play can go beyond 7pm to get in the 35 overs then the draw lay is back on shirley?
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:33 PM BST
Draw looks a fantastic lay at 8.8 but I don't dare, no way they don't go fully at this.
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:33 PM BST
8.2*
Report detraveller June 23, 2021 4:36 PM BST
The RR for NZ was about 2.6 which none of the three innings before this have achieved. I backed the draw based on that thinking.. If NZ lose wickets, they won't take risk. Too much at stake.

A small partnership would change that though especially if NZ promote Southee or someone at the fall of a wicket. I won't be a draw layer here.
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:36 PM BST
Ok, I've switched from even green to mini-red on draw.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:37 PM BST
I am maxed out on the draw lay so was hoping for wickets to lay off some India green. Got a nice win coming on a result but twice as much on India as NZ.
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:38 PM BST
Don't think so DT

Root is not captain!

They will both be going for the win here. As long as KW is at the crease NZ win this.

Personally I would have saved LT and Nicholls and just thrown in 3 hitters in a row!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 4:39 PM BST
I think you are safe adt but betting on the last day will kill you if not financially, mentally!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:42 PM BST
I've a shade under half as much red as the two greens.

Loved the 10 dot balls since though Laugh
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:45 PM BST
Think these two attempt to take it down to 20overs, whereby they'll feel they can't lose and with such a tiny total - they will have complete licence

(This is perhaps a great argument for *not* having entered just yet!)
Report jmdc June 23, 2021 4:47 PM BST
Isa joining Gavaskar in the opposition camp!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:48 PM BST
All match the batsmen have been slow, but they've survived relatively comfortably when they've not attacked. Pitch isn't spitting for pacers or spin. NZ know they can fall back on that if they wind up 5 or 6 down once they start hitting.
Report johnnythebull June 23, 2021 4:49 PM BST
NZ scoring t   o   o    s    l     o   w     l   y  here..1.07 backers need to plug the batsmen into the National Grid
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:49 PM BST
This draw price is trying to get me further involved, but I'll hold off for the next few maidens
Report detraveller June 23, 2021 4:51 PM BST

Jun 23, 2021 -- 10:39AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


I think you are safe adt but betting on the last day will kill you if not financially, mentally!


I actually have a bet running with a couple of my cousins in the UK(the t20 types) who laughed at me a couple hours ago when I said the required rate of 2.6 is too high. Had to explain to them that last day in tests is a different game.

I have more than my finances and mental health at stake here. Its my reputation.

Report detraveller June 23, 2021 4:52 PM BST
as for my book its red all over lol but draw is still my best result Grin
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:58 PM BST
Draw red gone, no preference on NZ or India. (Though I'm sure NZ will win)
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 4:59 PM BST
Tempting to tickle India at 36.0 but just can't see it
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 5:14 PM BST
Safe apt!

Best to enjoy the show. I am still carrying a large draw red! but am pretty confident. India were 40-50 runs short!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 5:16 PM BST
Dt the only thing that really affects the run rate here is wickets. Wickets cause fear, panic and choke. These wo should be enjoying batting now not worrying. New batsmen will worry particularly if both these men are gawn but there is some confidence in the hitters in this side down the order so I never really feared this game would time out ( I am not a yank! )
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 5:27 PM BST
Sitter!

Is that two drops from India today? Huge!

Too late now!
Report Whisperingdeath June 23, 2021 5:30 PM BST
Ironic the sunshine and just after the longest day. No light issues today!
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 6:30 PM BST
Well done, WD - held that draw-opposition nerve well for a few days.
Report Aptdemon June 23, 2021 6:30 PM BST
Very enjoyable Test to witness in the end.
Report strontium June 23, 2021 8:35 PM BST
Congratulations, and well played NZ. I'm delighted for you.
Report Whisperingdeath June 24, 2021 12:57 PM BST
Yes well done NZ. Thoroughly deserved and nobody could begrudge them avoiding a choke for the first timeLaugh!

Sorry! Worthy winners. They produced a great if not flamboyant team. Emphasis on the TEAM!

Tremendous and an example to all.
Report Whisperingdeath June 24, 2021 12:58 PM BST
Apt I think I got a little lucky. I was really in a stubborn mode and if Panty Boi had another half an hour at the crease my goose may have been cooked!
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