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detraveller
11 Aug 20 09:39
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Staying true to their reputation, Pakistan busted odds of 1.15 in Manchester. Not the best return as per their standards but I guess they can't always make it look so obvious.

In our quest for the next fix, we move to the port city of Southampton. According to the weather experts, there is rain around.

No need to do any research for this game. My sources tell me it will come down to Pakistan comfortably heading to a draw with rain forecast on the last day. They will get a couple of hours play, which as we all know is enough time for a collapse.

Don't mess this up and be green when the right time comes.

Like last time, a picture of the famous Akmal brothers who brought us all the luck in the last test.



Pakistan Zindabad.
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Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 11:36 AM BST
Vis at Cowes is better than it's been all day.  Can see both banks of Southampton Water.
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 11:37 AM BST
Blighty groundstaff require a Great Leap Backwards

Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 11:38 AM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 12:36PM, Latalomne wrote:


Vis at Cowes is better than it's been all day.

Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 11:39 AM BST
Blue sky poking through now
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 11:40 AM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 12:37PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


Blighty groundstaff require a Great Leap Backwards


Elf and safety would stop young lads helping out! In case they got injured

Report scouceman August 25, 2020 11:41 AM BST
More rain in 15-20 min
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 11:42 AM BST
Broadcasters could force ICC to cover grounds fully when it rains. Don't think the ICC will bother on its own.
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 11:43 AM BST
Drainage much better at the UK grounds compared to the overseas ones, even those covers would be useless against this much rain
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 11:47 AM BST
and you often see damp pitches on the wicket because either the covers are crap or they're negligent in taking them off
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 11:50 AM BST
Inspection at 140.
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 11:51 AM BST
I'm sure the Brits can make waterproof covers. They don't have to import from Lanka. Just use common sense like they do.
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 11:56 AM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 12:50PM, Latalomne wrote:


Inspection at 140.


Well timed inspection. They'll just act pro active and take early lunch.

Report peckerdunne August 25, 2020 12:21 PM BST
Everyons should be green by now

R1  THE DRAW NEVER DIES

R2 MAKE SURE YOU GET PAID

Laugh
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 12:26 PM BST
Ground staff not exactly in a hurry thereLaugh
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 12:26 PM BST
Just going through the motions
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 12:28 PM BST
The 1200 rainfall radar does look like they'll get another shower either side of 1.  Should be clear after that.
Report VardonVoo. August 25, 2020 12:51 PM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 1:26PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Just going through the motions


Like unenthusiastic sewer workers.

Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 1:01 PM BST
Run-up covers off, outfield being super-soppered, but it's currently drizzling.
Report ayt August 25, 2020 1:18 PM BST
Draw about to touch 1.3 when match starts,,125 runs at 1.2x so free
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 1:19 PM BST
Still extremely unlikely that it starts anywhere close to the 140 inspection, based on what they've said so far.
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 1:40 PM BST
Main covers still on.

Inspection taking place.
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 1:56 PM BST
Havent even announced a 2nd inspection
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 1:57 PM BST
oh nvm just came up, 3pm
Report elisjohn August 25, 2020 2:06 PM BST
deluge up here in the north this afternoom, never seen rain like it
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 2:07 PM BST
Run ups spongy, bad area on the edge of the square, no standing water elsewhere.  Key reckons they could play at some point, but for how long?!
Report the whizz kids August 25, 2020 2:09 PM BST
If they don't start after the next inspection it must be game over.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH August 25, 2020 2:10 PM BST
remarkable how in 2020 and in the UK a wet outfield is stopping play in a major sporting event watched Globally by 100m people with £100ms generated in TV revenue, but can not provide £10k tarpaulin to cover the whole ground !! either hopeless or incompetenceConfused
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 2:16 PM BST
They haven't got the groundstaff to do it.
In the UK you can't just organise 100 kids to help without z boat load of red tape
Report the whizz kids August 25, 2020 2:16 PM BST
I'm done with this. 3.9 Green all round. See you all in about 3 months. Wink
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 2:18 PM BST
Yeh I'm similar whizz!
See you for the next test
Would have made more but betting from my phone and its hard to track multiple things
Haven't set up my pc and screens yet
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 3:07 PM BST
Next inspection 335
Report TheBear August 25, 2020 3:29 PM BST
What times the earliest they could stop playing if they get on ?
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 3:32 PM BST
When 15 over remain in the day or when the last hour starts,whichever comes later
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 3:45 PM BST
Anyone been listening to TMS for the last 45 mins Laugh
Report Latalomne August 25, 2020 3:45 PM BST
Next inspection 4
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 3:47 PM BST
hoping to start at 415 and get a 42 over session in Shocked
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 3:48 PM BST
So 27 overs before they shake hands? 150 lay in trouble.
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 3:50 PM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 4:45PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Anyone been listening to TMS for the last 45 mins


Yes coz I know how one sentence can move market

Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 3:51 PM BST
They sure do love their womens cricket on TMS!
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 3:55 PM BST
It becomes aural wallpaper until I hear a keyphrase like *groundstaff* when I perk up
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 3:58 PM BST
So do you guys think Pakistan layed the draw?
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 3:59 PM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 4:58PM, detraveller wrote:


So do you guys think Pakistan layed the draw?


BIG TIME!

Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:00 PM BST
Big government and army bonus incoming!
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:01 PM BST
Imran Khan has just ordered a new yacht
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 4:02 PM BST
Anyone heard from Mrs sarfraz?
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:03 PM BST
if Id lumped on pakistan at short odds my arse would be twitching big time right now
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:03 PM BST
oops, meant the draw!
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:04 PM BST
Yep! I can feel a few comedy run outs coming
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:04 PM BST
Laugh leaving straight balls off the seamers
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 4:05 PM BST
I say bring it on.

120-5 anyone?
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:09 PM BST
This could be the best fiddle since the Bangles threw that test against the hounds
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:14 PM BST
Bet the fielders are bricking it in case they drop a catch off Jimmy!
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:16 PM BST
Still looks flat and dead
Report radical_groover August 25, 2020 4:21 PM BST
Done well to get on at all. Bat on this with a stick of rhubarb.
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:37 PM BST
Well done Jimmy, amazing stuff!
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:46 PM BST
Englands greatest bowler of all time without any doubt Grin
Report ayt August 25, 2020 4:50 PM BST
Who is Englands greatest ever spin bowler tim?
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:52 PM BST

Aug 25, 2020 -- 5:50PM, ayt wrote:


Who is Englands greatest ever spin bowler tim?


Swann!

Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 4:54 PM BST
Nah he cried off like a big pu$$y
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 4:58 PM BST
He doesn't have much competition tho
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:00 PM BST
Deadly!!
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:01 PM BST
Hedley Verity who died in action 2nd world war
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:01 PM BST
I once sat and had a few drink on the yarra river with deadly and lamby
Top blokes!
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:02 PM BST
Got the fire on full
Absolutely freezing today!
Report jumper3 August 25, 2020 5:04 PM BST
Derek Underwood, Jim Laker
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 5:04 PM BST
Cricket before 1950 shouldnt count for any records!
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:08 PM BST
Bradman should be taken out of all records
He only played against England
I could have averaged 100 against that dross!
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:12 PM BST
I do think The Don was great myself, participation was much greater in Eng & Aus and the gap between him and everyone else was an absolute chasm.  Some think the gap is the biggest among any sportsman of any sport.  The Don & Wayne Gretsky
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:12 PM BST
Fielding back then forget it
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:14 PM BST
Tongue in cheek tbf CSDevil
Report johnnyrant August 25, 2020 5:14 PM BST
When is the soonest the captains can shake hands on a draw?
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:16 PM BST
No way they will shake especially with the new pill and 3 rabbits
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:16 PM BST
This is how The Don got great Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=9o6vTXgYdqA&feature=emb_logo
Report jucel69 August 25, 2020 5:17 PM BST
WD was in the crowd
Report elisjohn August 25, 2020 5:18 PM BST
these days the only part of  sport that i think that standards are much better than yesteryear is fielding in cricket
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:18 PM BST
Apparently he was a miserable old sod though.
Report elisjohn August 25, 2020 5:19 PM BST
darts is far superior as well ,
Report scouceman August 25, 2020 5:24 PM BST
Rain and end of match in 20 min then.
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 5:24 PM BST
Think England just trying to get to the new ball asap
Report Cardinal Scott August 25, 2020 5:26 PM BST
CPL is calling. This Is Done
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 5:36 PM BST
Jesus, what kind of filth is this
Report djptr August 25, 2020 5:39 PM BST
1.02 the draw value here or not?
Report Angoose August 25, 2020 5:45 PM BST
Root does the bizo Shocked
Report Angoose August 25, 2020 5:46 PM BST
Jimmy fancies a go now
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 5:56 PM BST
Will they shake hands after this over
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 5:58 PM BST
Jesus, shows how muddy it is out there
Report Angoose August 25, 2020 6:00 PM BST
Can shake hands anytime they want to now
Report tomtimtum August 25, 2020 6:05 PM BST
wtf
Report Angoose August 25, 2020 6:05 PM BST
C'est fini.
Report detraveller August 25, 2020 6:06 PM BST
Over?
Report differentdrum August 25, 2020 6:07 PM BST
Since he returned what has Archer contributed?

He isn't any good with the bat so if he isn't taking wickets what's he there for?

Is Sir Geoffrey the only one to ask the question?

This should be a talking point just as much as Butler's keeping (at least there is another reason for him to play), the opening partnership, lack of a decent spinner....
Report ian merseyside August 25, 2020 6:30 PM BST
Pleased to see them all shaking hands at the end.  Michael Holding pointed it out but didn't express an opinion, I'm guessing he was in favour though.  No doubt the BBC will be up in arms about it as usual!
Report wondersobright August 25, 2020 7:06 PM BST
ian merseyside • August 25, 2020 6:30 PM BST
Pleased to see them all shaking hands at the end


excellent
Report ian merseyside August 25, 2020 7:08 PM BST
The hand shaking looked preempted to me, as if the players were trying to make a public statement.
Report wondersobright August 25, 2020 7:19 PM BST
good for them, about time somebody did
Report peckerdunne August 25, 2020 8:34 PM BST
Well done Joe, you shook hands 2 days ago,,,,,,,,,,,,
Report qwerty135 August 25, 2020 9:07 PM BST
Personally, I think they should have bumped elbows, but there's a big difference between
a) people shaking hands if they've been living in a bubble for weeks and being tested every day, and
b) most people shaking hands.
Report Angoose August 25, 2020 10:15 PM BST
And washing your hands immediately afterwards Happy
Report Whisperingdeath August 26, 2020 8:12 PM BST
Since he returned what has Archer contributed?

He isn't any good with the bat so if he isn't taking wickets what's he there for?

Is Sir Geoffrey the only one to ask the question?

This should be a talking point
just as much as Butler's keeping (at least there is another reason for him to play), the opening partnership, lack of a decent spinner....


I think you are right but I would defend his inclusion. He offers something different and he doesn't get the new ball, doesn't get to bowl at bunnies, bowls into the wind and is always brought on when the pitch dies.

He is a must for Australia along with Wood. People forget how tame the England attack can be when the ball goes soft. We have had extraordinary weather conditions with the ball swinging and seaming at times up to 75 overs. Plenty of early wickets too. If we face a strong opening partnership we might be in trouble but yes Archer's contribution needs to be assessed.

Butler should not be wicket keeper. Simple as that. Let him fight for a batting spot. I would rather have Johnny Bstard at 6. Don't get me wrong I do like him and want him to do well for England and am a big fan of his talent but Test Cricket is different. Maybe he is starting to understand it now but Foakes imho is the best keeper and should have the gloves. He can bat too and might even make more runs than Butler.

Burns to me looks vulnerable and a potential liability in Aus if he does not address moving his front leg too far. I think he is in credit for me and deserves support. He certainly has the right mentality for Test cricket. My own feeling is Crawley moves up to open. I would like to wait to move Pope to 3 but maybe get him in now.

Bess is not good enough yet. The hero of Headingly should have been given a chance this summer. My preference if for both Moen and Rashid if they can demonstrate form and desire. 3 seamers and Stokes. How do Anderson and Broad go overseas? I am not sure I would play both. I would play Archer or Wood.
Report mafeking August 27, 2020 1:09 PM BST
for the tests in asia in the winter I think the way to go is drop burns everyone else moves up a spot with buttler at 6 and foakes keeping. then 2 spinners with leach as your number 1 and your 2 other seamers. madness that bess has been preferred to leach this summer. hardly surprising he's not up to it given his age. just doesn't have the necessary control at this stage of his career. spinners tend to develop later and somerset wouldn't dream of picking bess in front of leach
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