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Have you witnessed other such instances of cheating during all the time you've been watching cricket?
Would you say Steve Waugh was a cheater because he not only didn't walk but also preached the same. Surely that's worse than what Archer did? |
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Yes yes!
I have been informed that they did not take a single in 45 minutes. I am not sure if that is true but I would like to think so! I am going to look at the card! |
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https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17174/scorecard/63165/england-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-west-indies-tour-of-england-1976
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"I think you must remember that the West Indians, these guys, if they get on top, they are magnificent cricketers, but if they're down, they grovel. And I intend, with the help of Closey and a few others, to make them grovel."
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http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/953181/when-death-whispered
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Running almost as fast as he could, he jumped and let the ball go, often at 90mph or more.
The arm releasing the ball came down like a guillotine. Some fast bowlers were ugly to watch. Holding was beautiful |
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"He hit me about an inch from where Phillip Hughes was hit, the last bit of bone on the skull before you come to the arteries," remembers Amiss. "I was very lucky. Was I frightened to bat against him that night? Well, if you're playing well, thoughts of fear aren't in your head. But when you aren't, there is instead, a sense of - let's call it apprehension. I don't call it fear."
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When men were men and didn't whinge.
The scariest Test England ever played: terror at the hands of West Indies https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/13/scariest-test-england-ever-played-terror-west-indies-cricket-1986-patrick-patterson |
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Phillip Hughes death was disturbing more than scary
He got hit but took a while to go down, but when he did it was face first and the hands didn't go in front of him to protect himself, that's instinct, so the fact he went face first like that you knew something was seriously up Went down and never regained consciousness it was a sad day for Cricket and it hit it hard in my opinion |
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I don't read this forum much but I had gathered a lot of people didn't think much of detraveller and now I see why.
I read it every day and I definitely don't get that impression. Perhaps you're misinterpreting a bit of harmless banter between regulars that have been chit-chatting amongst themselves for many years. The point DET and several other people have made is that you probably ought to be questioning the integrity of the umpires rather than the players who obviously are employed to test the boundaries of their ability, staying just within the limits set by the rules, knowing that they will be told to rein it in by an authority figure if they overdo it, beit an umpire r a coach or a team captain. Sport is inherently dangerous but you can't really have too many rules for safety or you take away the part of what makes it sport. Otherwise, what do you do? Impose speed limits on bowlers, runners and racing drivers? Someone has to be entrusted to make a reasonable judgement of what is safe enough and call it out if it's not. That's not the job of the player. Their job is to entertain. |
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I have said I take the point about the umpires though I don't think that totally absolves Archer (or Cummins,or their captains ). My apologies to detraveller if he is in fact popular on here but his treatment of me was childish ( My font is bigger than yours )
Fair play to Archer yesterday,showing that he is a top-class bowler who is even more effective when he doesn't bowl an inordinate number of short-pitched deliveries. |
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Detraveller's a good lad. Always loses money and doesn't know anything about the game but at least he admits it
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Yes we like DT here on the cricket forum. He makes good contributions and has a good sense of humour. We don't normally attack each other but have generally good light hearted banter with a smile.
We also try and avoid politics and racism here and personal insults. We even stopped calling the tie The Thai for a short while because someone got offended but normal service has been resumed on that front that God ![]() Oh and for God's sake we don't talk about God ![]() |
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Salmon I think you are missing the point a little. It is called Test Cricket. The test is not just about your skill but mental and physical courage. The emphasis on physical courage has been long forgotten for some time but the last few days has brought it sharply back into focus.
In actual fact the courage has not been fully appreciated as we have been talking about injuries. The courage required to play extremely fast bowling needs to commended. I thought Labuschagne at Lords was immense. Mind you I expect that from a Saffer! |
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I prefer cricket as a game of chess rather than a gladatorial contest,but each to their own.
Yes tbf the tone on here does seem quite pleasant. Most of my posts in the past have been on racing but I have more or less quit there because of the toxic atmosphere. |
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Further tho that Salmon about courage and mental toughness
Best player injured An opposition player bowling like the wind Lost a good Toss Batted under leaden skies From 136-2 to 179 all out The sun comes out in the morning when cloud was expected England 54-6 at Lunch! |
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That's the pernicious influence of one day cricket.
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No!
It is weakness! |
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Joined: 03 Aug 12 | Topic/replies: 48,763 | Blogger: jucel69's blog
salmon spray is another one of these remoaners who is so anti British it's painful Wottack Hunt you are like most Brextards. #peoplesvotenow |
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I argued with the 'I am right because my font is bigger than you' argument because I thought it was as ridiculous as your claim that archer was cheating.
I asked you a question about Steve Waugh which you clearly ignored. Do you think he was a bigger cheat than archer? And what do you call the thing that the aussie trio did last year? Treason? You still haven't told us how archer was supposed to know his balls were above shoulder height when the guy supposed to look at exactly that couldn't figure it out. You sounded like someone wrecked by archers bowling in that test but I didn't mention it because I don't take pleasure in mentioning anyone's losses. |
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I didn't like Waugh much so if you want to call him a cheat that's fine by me.
I admit the title of my thread was knowingly contentious to get some discussion going ( I do think on occasions there is too much short-pitched bowling allowed in Test matches ).Seems to have worked. I don't bet that much on cricket tbh. I lay long on run chases so my one small bet on this match is still in play but I am reasonably confident. |
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salmon wouldn't know be from Adam and I don't think I've ever replied to one of his posts. From what I understand salmon is (was) a horsey betting man and good at it. He's no fool.
dt is a cricket man and good at it (sh!te at tennis though). He's no fool. I don't like to see bickering on a cricket forum as it's, well, just not cricket. |
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Thought you were old enough to remember the Bodyline series Salmon Spray?
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You make an extremely pertinent point Salmon. Idiocy is not confined to the horse racing forum it seems.
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