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Why Is Archer allowed to Cheat ?

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By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 18:01
Have you witnessed other such instances of cheating during all the time you've been watching cricket?

Would you say Steve Waugh was a cheater because he not only didn't walk but also preached the same. Surely that's worse than what Archer did?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 20 Aug 19 18:07

Aug 20, 2019 -- 12:33PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


A prize to anyone who can tell me who the batsman was at the other end of that 45 minutes in the crucible without taking a single! ( no referring to crocinfo either this is a sporting question! )


In that team was John Edrich who was also elderly at the time.....I did not cheat and look it up but have viewed the scorecard before, Peter Willey may have been in that team too.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 18:14
Yes yes!

I have been informed that they did not take a single in 45 minutes. I am not sure if that is true but I would like to think so!  I am going to look at the card!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 18:21
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17174/scorecard/63165/england-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-west-indies-tour-of-england-1976
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 18:25
"I think you must remember that the West Indians, these guys, if they get on top, they are magnificent cricketers, but if they're down, they grovel. And I intend, with the help of Closey and a few others, to make them grovel."

Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 18:25
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/953181/when-death-whispered
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Aug 19 18:31
Running almost as fast as he could, he jumped and let the ball go, often at 90mph or more.
The arm releasing the ball came down like a guillotine.
Some fast bowlers were ugly to watch.
Holding was beautiful
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Aug 19 18:35
"He hit me about an inch from where Phillip Hughes was hit, the last bit of bone on the skull before you come to the arteries," remembers Amiss. "I was very lucky. Was I frightened to bat against him that night? Well, if you're playing well, thoughts of fear aren't in your head. But when you aren't, there is instead, a sense of - let's call it apprehension. I don't call it fear."
By:
Charlie
When: 22 Aug 19 19:12
When men were men and didn't whinge.

The scariest Test England ever played: terror at the hands of West Indies
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/13/scariest-test-england-ever-played-terror-west-indies-cricket-1986-patrick-patterson
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 22 Aug 19 19:47
Phillip Hughes death was disturbing more than scary

He got hit but took a while to go down, but when he did it was face first and the hands didn't go in front of him to protect himself, that's instinct, so the fact he went face first like that you knew something was seriously up

Went down and never regained consciousness Sad it was a sad day for Cricket and it hit it hard in my opinion
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 22 Aug 19 23:47
I don't read this forum much but I had gathered a lot of people didn't think much of detraveller and now I see why.

I read it every day and I definitely don't get that impression. Perhaps you're misinterpreting a bit of harmless banter
between regulars that have been chit-chatting amongst themselves for many years.

The point DET and several other people have made is that you probably ought to be questioning the integrity of the umpires rather than the players who obviously are employed to test the boundaries of their ability, staying just within the limits set by the rules, knowing that they will be told to rein it in by an authority figure if they overdo it, beit an umpire r a coach or a team captain.

Sport is inherently dangerous but you can't really have too many rules for safety or you take away the part of what makes it sport.
Otherwise, what do you do? Impose speed limits on bowlers, runners and racing drivers? Someone has to be entrusted to make a reasonable judgement of what is safe enough and call it out if it's not. That's not the job of the player. Their job is to entertain.
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Aug 19 09:02
I have said I take the point about the umpires though I don't think that totally absolves Archer (or Cummins,or their captains ). My apologies to detraveller if he is in fact popular on here but his treatment of me was childish ( My font is bigger than yours )
Fair play to Archer yesterday,showing that he is a top-class bowler who is even more effective when he doesn't bowl an inordinate number of short-pitched deliveries.
By:
Try My Best
When: 23 Aug 19 10:59
Detraveller's a good lad. Always loses money and doesn't know anything about the game but at least he admits it
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Aug 19 11:04
Yes we like DT here on the cricket forum. He makes good contributions and has a good sense of humour. We don't normally attack each other but have generally good light hearted banter with a smile.

We also try and avoid politics and racism here and personal insults. We even stopped calling the tie The Thai for a short while because someone got offended but normal service has been resumed on that front that GodLaugh

Oh and for God's sake we don't talk about GodLaugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Aug 19 11:09
Salmon I think you are missing the point a little. It is called Test Cricket. The test is not just about your skill but mental and physical courage. The emphasis on physical courage has been long forgotten for some time but the last few days has brought it sharply back into focus.

In actual fact the courage has not been fully appreciated as we have been talking about injuries. The courage required to play extremely fast bowling needs to commended. I thought Labuschagne at Lords was immense. Mind you I expect that from a Saffer!
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Aug 19 11:21
I prefer cricket as a game of chess rather than a gladatorial contest,but each to their own.
Yes tbf the tone on here does seem quite pleasant. Most of my posts in the past have been on racing but I have more or less quit there because of the toxic atmosphere.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Aug 19 12:13
Further tho that Salmon about courage and mental toughness

Best player injured
An opposition player bowling like the wind
Lost a good Toss
Batted under leaden skies
From 136-2 to 179 all out
The sun comes out in the morning when cloud was expected

England 54-6 at Lunch!
By:
salmon spray
When: 23 Aug 19 12:45
That's the pernicious influence of one day cricket.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Aug 19 12:55
No!

It is weakness!
By:
Crawford
When: 24 Aug 19 10:29
Joined: 03 Aug 12 | Topic/replies: 48,763 | Blogger: jucel69's blog
salmon spray is another one of these remoaners who is so anti British it's painful

Wottack Hunt you are like most Brextards.   #peoplesvotenow
By:
detraveller
When: 24 Aug 19 11:32
I argued with the 'I am right because my font is bigger than you' argument because I thought it was as ridiculous as your claim that archer was cheating.

I asked you a question about Steve Waugh which you clearly ignored. Do you think he was a bigger cheat than archer? And what do you call the thing that the aussie trio did last year? Treason?

You still haven't told us how archer was supposed to know his balls were above shoulder height when the guy supposed to look at exactly that couldn't figure it out.

You sounded like someone wrecked by archers bowling in that test but I didn't mention it because  I don't take pleasure in mentioning anyone's losses.
By:
salmon spray
When: 24 Aug 19 13:45
I didn't like Waugh much so if you want to call him a cheat that's fine by me.
I admit the title of my thread was knowingly contentious to get some discussion going ( I do think on occasions there is too much short-pitched bowling allowed in Test matches ).Seems to have worked. I don't bet that much on cricket tbh. I lay long on run chases so my one  small bet on this match is still in play but I am reasonably confident.
By:
Charlie
When: 24 Aug 19 17:30
salmon wouldn't know be from Adam and I don't think I've ever replied to one of his posts. From what I understand salmon is (was) a horsey betting man and good at it. He's no fool.

dt is a cricket man and good at it (sh!te at tennis though). He's no fool.

I don't like to see bickering on a cricket forum as it's, well, just not cricket.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 25 Aug 19 11:39
Thought you were old enough to remember the Bodyline series Salmon Spray?Grin
By:
veritas1
When: 25 Aug 19 12:37
You make an extremely pertinent point Salmon. Idiocy is not confined to the horse racing forum it seems.
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