Ban v Aus 1st Test Mirpur, Dhaka

Not touched it yet. Think it's 3 draws from 15 tests going back to 2007. Haven't looked at them all but the one from a couple of years ago against SA only saw a day's play. That was in October, apparently a dryer month than August so does sound like there could easily be significant rain disruption from that and that it rains 20 days in August, averaging 300mm rain the month. Course it could predominantly be in non cricketing hours.

Aus very short, I'd say. Am thinking I'll lay Aus if I can catch them very short and trade the draw.

I've traded a fair bit already. Mirpur is a result venue when it doesn't rain. Last match was over in 3 days. Late monsoon weather. Usually not continuous rain.

It was a bit of a minefield last test against England and the Bangla second innings ran on well past expectation, setting up their historic win. I've laid the draw although at the wrong price as things stand. Agree draw unlikely without a lot of rain and that a huge amount seems unlikely. Bit spooked by the SA test though.

I've laid the draw although at the wrong price as things stand.

Me too, but well within my comfort zone.

Aug 22, 2017 -- 11:21PM, Foinavon wrote:

I've laid the draw although at the wrong price as things stand.Me too, but well within my comfort zone.

Only getting a hiding if there's a lot of rain so I'm not particularly worried and haven't done it for loads. Did try to get some 3.5 but missed that. Could be enough first innings runs to keep the draw price right down even if it stays dry but the wicket is likely to deteriorate quite fast. It's not impossible the Aus batsmen could dig in on a Bunsen but unlikely and the Bangladesh batsmen mostly bat like millionaires so probably a game to get your draw lays in pre test and on days 1 and maybe 2.

I didn't bother laying more at the lower prices and looked this morning and see I'm marginally in the black . I'm treating this pre-match draw lay as a "plug and chug" bet, nothing more needed until collection time. Of course the weather could upset that as always but seems unlikely to.

I laid the draw down to 3.55, and have covered most of it now.

I expect some rain, and draw should be good for trading. Ban might prepare a road to neuter the Aus pace bowling.

surely they'd fancy their spinners against the ropey oz batting line up ? not much to fear after warner and smith

You'd assume they'd want the same pitch they had against England. Whether they'll get it, exactly, is a different question.

Both sides talking up their spinners chances. Lyon says Agar much improved. Probably not a match where you'd want to bat last.

Aus has drifted quite a bit. Hopefully they win the toss and bat.

Not sure if this can be viewed anywhere?

Hopefully they win the toss and bat.

That's about the only thing to justify such a short price. Could it be a worthwhile punt on the toss?

https://twitter.com/collinsadam/status/901308629290172416

yr.no forecast has improved for the first 2 days.

Draw price crash and drifted back out 2.5 to 3.  Bit odd how Bang odds have been similar but Aus price taking all the draw whack

Satellite looks not to bad. I don't expect much rain today, if any.

Draw has gone really short in no time. On a wicket that is expected to spin?

No one following this?

I'm not trading this one Det as I mentioned earlier. I'm asleep through half of it and it's not being televised so it's not particularly interesting. The same goes for the series.

Am on holiday again so not much time to get bets on and also post about them but have had a massive day in this game: had got an Aus lay at 1.6 and a bunch of draw lays from 4.1 all the way down to 3.2. Can't believe it was at 2.5! Anyway, also profitably traded the draw, lucky with the rain and have £800 Aus and 3.2k Bangla green. Not even that red on the draw.

Decided to cash out my pre-match draw lay on the principle of not looking a gift horse in the mouth. (Thanks Australia).
Will have another look at stumps tomorrow.

I've done OK, but should have done better with the crazy draw prices. That's what happens when you are a bit behind the 8 ball in the other Test. Should still be some weather opportunities. And Smith might get a big one and turn the match. Although I think probably not.

Aus were around 2 before the game and went to 2.3ish after they were batting first. If you had bet Aus at 2.3 and now look and see they are 18/3 on a turner after the home team had got a solid score you would surely think they are in a worse postion then they were when they started. Think I have to Lay Aus as even if they get 40 run lead and go 1.5 they surely have a big ask batting last plus any rain would help the drift

take out the 1-2 loss in india which is probably an outlier they've lost something like 10 tests in a row in the subcontinent

not much evidence to suggest really that they are anything other than a shocking side when the ball does anything whether spinning or movement off the seam

Smith gone, big wicket for Bangladesh

Bottled out of my Bangla back but gone after unders on Ausse. under 201.5 up to 258.5 go figure that gift!

Have not had a bet on this,

Australia I assume have been Spun to Death here.  Aus are even worse than Eng v spin, far, far worse in fact, they never learn, they never improve.

Agar & Cummins have done me a favour..moved Aus into layable territory and I'm waiting to be matched now.

Trying to scrtch my Aus lay..*Drip lay* is a better play here as no limit how long those 2 can bat for, look very comfortable.

Aus backers will be in a world of pain later, cannot see anything but a Bangers train from here on. Money put where my post is!

Brain fade by Bangers but not game threatening!

So Aus in a still bad position here, if you had backed them after the Toss at 2.3 you surely would happily red out now. I woke up looked at the scores and thought even if there is a bit of rain they really don't need many overs for a result here so I guessed Bang would be around 1.3. Seeing them at 1.7 I think I must have missed something but batting last will be hard and have topped up on Bangladesh again.

Bang runs predicted at 230 if that is the case then Aus are 15.8 to get the highest score of the test in the final innings around 270.

Bang over priced all along, for me. I didn't do any trading today until a tiny tickle on the draw near the end. Aus obviously could win this but seems like a chase of 200 would be a tough one (although the market won't think so), let alone a more likely 250 or so.

Anybody here know how the market is so ahead?

What do you mean the market is so ahead Trainy?

I didn't understand the Q either.

Weather looks OK. Could be over today.

Hi pxb.

Good to see the Bangers bossing this.

Bangla could easily collapse and give aus 200-220 to chase which is why they might be 1.45. Otherwise I can't see how Australia can chase what they are about to be set.

Draw has been very tradeable since yesterday. One of those "volatile third outcome" matches where the two likely outcomes move steadily whilst the third is all over the shop.

Ban look to have this in the bag. But Aus will probably take it into tomorrow with some rain forecast.

G'Day VV. English weather in Perth today.

Ha - it's raining here in London. Perth winters are pretty mild, I assume.

Which Asian weather site do you trust the most?

I'm pleased to see the WA boy Agar do well. I wasn't sure he had what it takes to play Tests.

Will they keep him for The Ashes though?

I use yr.no and the Accuweather satellite, but the satellite images all come from the same 1 or 2 satellites.

Will they keep him for The Ashes though?

I've asked myself the same question. Second choice spinner. Probably not. But a much better bat than Lyon.

Will you be staying up for the Windies chase (assuming thy survive beyond lunch)?

Probably not. Although I'd like to. I enjoy a tense last day chase with all 3 outcomes possible.

That dodgy no-ball decision yesterday probably ruined WI's chances. A more reachable target would make this a better fifth day. If they lose a couple of wickets early they'll probably just dig in for a draw or collapse trying to block it  out. Mind you if that no-ball had gone the other way they could easily have been put in earlier and be four down by now anyway!

Aus look like they will take the usual 'take the game to the opposition' approach to hide their weaknesses against spin. With the target not that big they might even pull it off

very good very good.........

After that second wicket...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I have settled now with an equal green. Will look to back Bangers again if they trade 1.8 or so. With a smallish target you never know.

These two could make it look easy but its about that delivery that will have their name on it.

same as..........

Woke up and seen Bang got 221 lead of 260,highest score in the game batting last no chance. Aus 28/2 easy then 81 run partnership Balls!. Need early wickets but market always been with Aus. Will see how it goes just wish I left some low Bang trades in. Still in the green but will hold on to it until no more

pxb 29 Aug 17 05:20
I didn't understand the Q either.

tyco161 29 Aug 17 04:40
What do you mean the market is so ahead Trainy?

what i mean is the market cancels all the money out the market when there is a wicket, where are they getting the data from is it a data source or radio?

It could just be that you have slow pics? Or people just listening on analogue radio... pretty much the same speed as being at the ground if you can trust the commentator... :)

Trainy - your bets are set to have a five-second delay anyway, even if you had a real-time feed. This is to give punters with a slightly delayed feed enough time to cancel bets before people sitting at the stadium with a laptop can take advantage of them. Any bets still left up will just get hoovered, even if it's only a handful of people at the venue, so the market is nearly always in synch with the action. What you need is a premium account, then just go to "settings" and change the delay from plus five seconds to minus five. You'll still have to beat their reaction times, but at least it gives you a slight edge over people watching the live action who have no delay in force when they cancel their bets.

How does one get a "premium account" VV?

I think he was being ironic.

Aug 30, 2017 -- 4:27AM, pxb wrote:

I think he was being ironic.

So was I, that's why I put it in inverted commas :) (thats the beauty of the written word, hard to show emotion)

Wasn't the "premium account" a thing on this forum a few years ago where some people thought it was a real thing? Anyway will be an interesting chase for these last few runs if they can get them.

Aus 5 down. Will be close.

8 down 66 runs required.

Aus 9 down 37 required

A tie would really P me off.

GSM Banga

Well done Bangla. Their spinners were better.

Gutted really this wasn`t on at a better uk time. Had Banga all the way through and had to reduce the green. Still won a bit but should have been more

Batting first was Massive I feel, pressure to chase. Expect the same wicket again next time

VV

Premium accounts have not been spoken of in public for a very long time.

It's disappointing that you should bring the subject up.

They do not exist, you know this, i know this.

Let's keep it that way VV and no more mention of this folly.

You have been warned...........

Excellent test for me, although even this and a few other decent efforts this week haven't remotely recovered my recent losses. Had the Bangles all along and kept waking up to find their position improved while I slept, even on day 1 where 50/3 or something looked okay as a getting up score given they'd won the toss. Took a tiny fraction of my green off backing Aus from 8 down at the end (glad I didn't put some on at 3 before Maxwell out, which I did think of). I got a nibble of 15s before Lyon hit a 4 first ball and then had to take 9s but still won £3k.

Well done Bangladesh

yep they're a useful side at home these days and much improved away. got 500+ in new zealand and still contrived to lose and think they won a test in sri lanka recently too

Oh yeah sorry - forgot we're all keeping schtumm.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that maybe with the right hack into the software the guy could change the delay from +5 seconds to minus 5 seconds, so he could have a chance at beating the spectators armed with laptops at the event itself.

Good to see Aus following 4th innings protocol.

Rule Number 1: look like you might win.
Rule Number 2: fall in a heap
Rule Number 3: rally
Rule Number 4: lose.

This has been the pattern for nearly all of test match history, which makes Windies' triumph so special.

1. Australia (372 wins)
Australia is represented in international cricket by the Australian national cricket team. Having played its first ever Test matches in 1877 the Australia national cricket team is the oldest in the history of Test cricket together with the England national cricket team. In regards to percentage wins, overall wins and win-loss ratio, the country ranks as the number one team overall in Test cricket. The Australia national cricket team has participated in four consecutive World Cup Finals and has won three. The team also won the 2015 World Cup on home soil. Australia has had 372 wins.

Yes yes yes

Proud sporting nation and all that

But you just lost to Bangladesh! Ha ha ha ha aha ha!

Seem to remember the Pomms getting rolled over in 3 days at the same ground in 2016. Well done on your spelling by the way. Have you been to night school.

What were you doing up before the sun went down?

Yes we lost but we are not Autralian mate!

Unless of course being a Convict doesn't mean anything anymore!

The no.1 test team in history. AUSTRALIA. Don't forget it my young novices.

You didn't lose , you were battered. 10 wickets wasn't it. Utter humiliation. Well played against the Windies by the way pmsl. I can assure you that was worse than our defeat on a home seamer friendly wicket.