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Fatslogger When: 26 Jul 17 07:24

Jul 26, 2017 -- 6:43AM, jucel69 wrote:

Don't get these prices at all, make absolutely no sense. SA are pretty much the same price as just before the toss in the last game.Since then they have thrashed England and have Rabada back. Bizarre really.There is a bit of rain in the forecast but all looks to be nominal in the grand scale of things. Should be able to make up the time during the five days. Still plenty of light at this time of the year & floodlights are available.

Rain day 1 probably suits the bowling side and as you say, doesn't change the number of overs available.

I've slightly messed this up, in that I took on some draw lays a fraction higher than most of my backs as I bought the notion that it could easily head up to near 5. Now I would really rather like it to.

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 07:44

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcpuvk7px#?date=2017-07-31

Hardly any rain forecast now. Day 1 showers are insignificant in my eyes
Fri, Sat, Sun & Mon all clear

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 07:48

Today has rain for Surrey, hopefully the pitch stays under the covers most of the day

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Fatslogger When: 26 Jul 17 13:11

Jul 26, 2017 -- 7:44AM, jucel69 wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcpuvk7px#?date=2017-07-31Hardly any rain forecast now. Day 1 showers are insignificant in my eyesFri, Sat, Sun & Mon all clear

Surprised the draw is sticking so low. I've seen these sides bowl and I've seen them bat and I just don't see a draw. Days 2 and 3 could be good for batting but day 1 probably won't be so draw lay to back to lay again feels like the approach. As it turns out, I'd got a draw back in at 4.8 at some point so my average lay is a little lower than my average back which emboldens me to try for further lays around 4.2 and await developments.

Anyone remember the last draw in England that wasn't heavily rain affected? The last draw was Lord's against Sri Lanka (a test I traded like a gimboid and lost £5k on, I think) but that was moderately rain affected even before the final day was a near wash out. None of the other tests in 2016 were draws and 2015 went WLWLWWL. I think one of the Sri Lanka and one of the India tests in 2014 were non rain affected draws.

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Whisperingdeath When: 26 Jul 17 13:38

jucel69
26 Jul 17 06:43
Don't get these prices at all, make absolutely no sense. SA are pretty much the same price as just before the toss in the last game.
Since then they have thrashed England and have Rabada back. Bizarre really.
There is a bit of rain in the forecast but all looks to be nominal in the grand scale of things. Should be able to make up the time during the five days. Still plenty of light at this time of the year & floodlights are available.

I was looking forward to this series and thought SA to be a very good side albeit without AB. I was shocked by their surrender in the first Test and also shocked by the bouncebackability win in the second without Rabada!

I think SA may well be the better side and expect them to play well tomorrow. I don't know how to bet on this. Will wait for the toss and see I think.

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Whisperingdeath When: 26 Jul 17 13:40

I am at The Oval tomorrow! There may be a spare single ticket available if anybody is interested although not sitting with me!

I am in Bedser Upper Open if anybody is there tomorrow and would like to meet.

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GRANTCKING When: 26 Jul 17 14:00

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 14:20

Just got home and seen the improved forecast and still no movement

https://twitter.com/MikeHaysman?lang=en
Pitch was green yesterday and has been under covers most of the day.

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 14:22

Jul 26, 2017 -- 1:40PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

I am at The Oval tomorrow! There may be a spare single ticket available if anybody is interested although not sitting with me!I am in Bedser Upper Open if anybody is there tomorrow and would like to meet.

Enjoy WD should be a cracking first day!

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mafeking When: 26 Jul 17 14:31

think it's something like 1 of the last 20 tests in england has been drawn. hardly any recent game has reached day 5. this england team doesn't do draws. they usually win one then lose one generally by massive margins

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Whisperingdeath When: 26 Jul 17 14:32

Grant!

Have you been on a diversity course?

omg my asse just fell off!

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Whisperingdeath When: 26 Jul 17 14:36

Thanks Juce,

Looking forward to it.

100th Test Match at the Oval so I booked first day tickets! Was hoping for a ceremony and a procession of some sort!

Not going to get hammered! Was at Lords for 4th day. Knocked back a few pints early but was so engrossed by the game that I did not drink anymore during the day including the wine I had brought in!

Could be a cracking day Thursday with plenty of wickets. Could be a good trading day I think but that is not my style so will just watch. Missed the second Test as I was in Ireland.

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 14:46

Jul 26, 2017 -- 2:36PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

Thanks Juce,Looking forward to it.100th Test Match at the Oval so I booked first day tickets! Was hoping for a ceremony and a procession of some sort!Not going to get hammered! Was at Lords for 4th day. Knocked back a few pints early but was so engrossed by the game that I did not drink anymore during the day including the wine I had brought in!Could be a cracking day Thursday with plenty of wickets. Could be a good trading day I think but that is not my style so will just watch. Missed the second Test as I was in Ireland.

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pxb When: 26 Jul 17 20:51

I really fancy SAF for this if they win the toss. Greentop or not.

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mafeking When: 26 Jul 17 22:03

friday's weather seems to have taken a distinct turn for the worse. naturally that's the day i'm going

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Fatslogger When: 26 Jul 17 22:51

Jul 26, 2017 -- 10:03PM, mafeking wrote:

friday's weather seems to have taken a distinct turn for the worse. naturally that's the day i'm going

Looks like could be a significant amount of time lost Friday now. Forecast for Saturday on remains good though so would be able to make up most of a session if required.

I'm now a little over £5k draw red. My only anxiety about it is whether I've got enough.

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jucel69 When: 26 Jul 17 23:42

Just want to see the wicket now, it's been under the covers most of Wednesday.
Be interesting to see how much grass they leave on.
Then it looks like it is going to be a volatile market with the showers and the rain on Friday.

Could be one of the test matches where you have to stay focused for the whole game & opportunities/value will present themselves.

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pxb When: 27 Jul 17 00:29

The Met Office Fri forecast looks OK to me. A couple of light showers, and nothing heavier till perhaps 5pm.

The draw at 4 an over-reaction IMO.

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 00:33

Jul 27, 2017 -- 12:29AM, pxb wrote:

The Met Office Fri forecast looks OK to me. A couple of light showers, and nothing heavier till perhaps 5pm.The draw at 4 an over-reaction IMO.

Agree, as I posted yesterday, a session lost on Friday evening can me made up on the remaining days.
Still a 450 over game for mine (based on current forecasts).

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 00:45

If they uncover the wicket and it's green and juicy the draw will fly.

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pxb When: 27 Jul 17 00:48

Cric365 suggested win toss and bowl might be the way to go. Although I always feel that is risky.

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Whisperingdeath When: 27 Jul 17 06:03

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1103284/the-joy-of--71

What was it like to be at The Oval the day India won their first series in England? For a 13-year-old English fan, it was bliss to be alive

Funny enough this was the first proper Test Match I remember and have always had a soft spot for India after this game at the Oval! I remember the sheer joy from nearly everybody that India won. It struck me as so different to Football. I duess that is one of the reason's I love cricket!

In a pub just up the Clapham Road from the ground, we sat outside under a darkening sky among a group of West Indians and Len bought me my first beer. A whole pint of pale ale, in a dimpled glass jug. "If anyone asks, tell 'em it's a shandy." As I fought back the urge to spit my first sip straight back into the glass, Harold handed me a brown paper bag containing a copy of a hardback volume, Great Cricket Matches by Handasyde Buchanan. "Something to remember your first Test match by." I have never forgotten it, and on the train home as I read from my new book ("It's second-hand, but mint condition"), despite the slight nausea brought on by the pale ale, I thought that all in all, Tuesday August 24th, 1971 had been probably the best day of my life.

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Fatslogger When: 27 Jul 17 07:26

Forecast now for showers today, quite a bit of afternoon rain tomorrow and maybe a shower or two Saturday too. Still think it won't end up being much time lost but could certainly have a few overs go down the drain. Not that I think that will prevent a result and cloud overhead will assist the bowling enough that I may not look for so many draw backs as I'd otherwise have wanted. Will take another large draw lay a true 3.9 if it gets down that far.

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Whisperingdeath When: 27 Jul 17 07:36

Ironic if Malaan gets a game for Engerland and Markram does not for SA!

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 09:13

Looks like the rain tomorrow will be arriving later in the afternoon.
Few showers about today but they could easily miss. Nothing biblical on the horizon which is the main thing

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 09:35

At last the Saffer money............sweet...........

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tomtimtum When: 27 Jul 17 09:36

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 09:36

well a little anyhow

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 09:37

Morning Jog on!.........

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tomtimtum When: 27 Jul 17 09:37

Pecker come on skype

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 09:43

Id have to set it up etc Tom...

I am a bit tired for that just now..

Was up very early...perhaps later or Tomo..

Not really my thing but i should do it for the son and family in London etc.

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pxb When: 27 Jul 17 09:47

Use the web version. No set up.

https://web.skype.com/en/

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 09:52

Cheers PXB....

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 09:59

https://twitter.com/SuperSportTV

Mike Haysman short preview

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tomtimtum When: 27 Jul 17 09:59

Lets see the pitch

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Cardinal Scott When: 27 Jul 17 10:01

I am Mustard Keen on having a good one here after that

Durham

display lst night there are ways to lose money but that was painful. I'll be opposing the Saffers

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peckerdunne When: 27 Jul 17 10:04

Toss time? pls.......10.30?

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 10:04

Jul 27, 2017 -- 10:01AM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

I am Mustard Keen on having a good one here after that Durham display lst night there are ways to lose money but that was painful. I'll be opposing the Saffers

I think the Saffers are head and shoulders above England

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tomtimtum When: 27 Jul 17 10:05

Think SAF are the better team but they have weaknesses too

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jucel69 When: 27 Jul 17 10:06

Jul 27, 2017 -- 10:05AM, tomtimtum wrote:

Think SAF are the better team but they have weaknesses too

of course but there bowling line up looks very strong