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frog2
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On Delhi here for a few quid at 2.16.

Prefer Delhi's bowling and power in the batting. KKR too reliant on their spinners and top order.
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Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 12:28 PM BST
over 173.5 having landed under 106.5 in 12

Some explosive hitters still to come. 10 an over. I don't expect them to die wondering. They know they need close to 180 to defend.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:28 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:27PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Just noticed Matthews playing, bit harsh on Corey to drop him after his MOM performance last game! Or was he injured


Just read he was unwell

Report Puzzman April 17, 2017 12:30 PM BST
looked out live
Report martinmonty April 17, 2017 12:42 PM BST
Will they get 160 here?
Report Charlie April 17, 2017 12:44 PM BST
Good question, I'll guess yes.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:44 PM BST
They certainly have the hitters left capable of doing it
Report martinmonty April 17, 2017 12:45 PM BST
Like that!!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:46 PM BST
Wouldnt have sent Matthews in now, hasnt played in god knows how long and Morris+Cummins in nick
Report Charlie April 17, 2017 12:49 PM BST
WD knocking one-out at Pant.
Report betfairchat April 17, 2017 12:50 PM BST
match winning knock here
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 12:50 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:26PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:21PM, Charlie wrote:This innings needs to get going again. Doing what so many teams do in middle overs.Yep, teams overvalue the importance of wickets in the final overs


Depends on your line up a bit but I do think they should look more towards getting past 180 rather than settle for 160-170.  Sure, you'll sometimes fizzle and only get 150 or so if your hitters don't come off but they've got Morris and Mathews to come.

Got back on DD after the wicket which has turned out to be a nice trade with Pant not being pants this over.

Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:51 PM BST
FS check this out - https://twitter.com/sportdw/status/853298814840713216
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 12:52 PM BST
Got out of it too early, in fact.

Agree with you about Mathews, by the way, ttt, although he is a good batsman so you would naturally bat him ahead of Morris but think the upside in him coming off is lower.

Carnage here.
Report betfairchat April 17, 2017 12:52 PM BST
that over is game over
Report betfairchat April 17, 2017 12:55 PM BST
180 plus
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:56 PM BST
180 would be an excellent total
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 12:56 PM BST
You heard it here first!

Pantyman to the rescue for me!

After yesterdays debacle and Jason Roy again we see examples of why your best ans hardest hitting batsmen should be nearer the top of the order. Iyer and Nair have not helped and why has Angelo come in ahead of Morris and Cummin?

Overs
158.5
167.5
173.5
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:57 PM BST
WD, thats some of the worst Monday Morning Quarterbacking I've ever seen!
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 12:57 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:51PM, tomtimtum wrote:


FS check this out - https://twitter.com/sportdw/status/853298814840713216


Interesting, thanks.  So essentially you can lose 2 wickets totally for free and the utility of having more than 4 in hand is still pretty low.  Does depend on your guys but think not having Morris in with a few overs left with his SR of over 170 (and apparently about 230 this IPL) must be bad cricket, unless your other guys are murdering the bowling. This tapping singles around feels wrong, doesn't it? Fine, get singles when the big shots don't come off for you but you must play the big shots.

Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 12:58 PM BST
I need 168 for a profit

C'mon Pantyman!
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 12:59 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:56PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


You heard it here first!Pantyman to the rescue for me!After yesterdays debacle and Jason Roy again we see examples of why your best ans hardest hitting batsmen should be nearer the top of the order. Iyer and Nair have not helped and why has Angelo come in ahead of Morris and Cummin?Overs 158.5167.5173.5


Mathews can hit the thing so think you bat him ahead of Cummins for sure but definitely not Morris.

Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 12:59 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:57PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:51PM, tomtimtum wrote:FS check this out - https://twitter.com/sportdw/status/853298814840713216Interesting, thanks.  So essentially you can lose 2 wickets totally for free and the utility of having more than 4 in hand is still pretty low.  Does depend on your guys but think not having Morris in with a few overs left with his SR of over 170 (and apparently about 230 this IPL) must be bad cricket, unless your other guys are murdering the bowling. This tapping singles around feels wrong, doesn't it? Fine, get singles when the big shots don't come off for you but you must play the big shots.


Yep, teams need to be going earlier when they have wickets in hand, all this "leave yourself wickets in hand for the last 5 overs" is completely outdated.

Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 12:59 PM BST
Whoopsie daisy!
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 12:59 PM BST
Market obviously rates DD's attack (and perhaps not KKR's batting) as this isn't looking like that imposing a total, is it and yet DD still warmly favoured?
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:00 PM BST
As I also rate DD's attack I'm sticking with it but could go wrong.
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:00 PM BST
and here we go will Morris and Cummin save me?
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:02 PM BST
whats going on out there!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:03 PM BST
Got a feeling this is a new ball pitch, easy to bat on when ball is new and gets harder as ball gets older
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:04 PM BST
oh my, woakes with final over
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:06 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:59PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:57PM, Fatslogger wrote:Apr 17, 2017 -- 12:51PM, tomtimtum wrote:FS check this out - https://twitter.com/sportdw/status/853298814840713216Interesting, thanks.  So essentially you can lose 2 wickets totally for free and the utility of having more than 4 in hand is still pretty low.  Does depend on your guys but think not having Morris in with a few overs left with his SR of over 170 (and apparently about 230 this IPL) must be bad cricket, unless your other guys are murdering the bowling. This tapping singles around feels wrong, doesn't it? Fine, get singles when the big shots don't come off for you but you must play the big shots.Yep, teams need to be going earlier when they have wickets in hand, all this "leave yourself wickets in hand for the last 5 overs" is completely outdated.


It's obviously fine to have wickets in hand at the end and you certainly don't want to be bowled out or anything but hit hard and hit often seems to be the way to play it to me.  England's batting approach to limited overs batting seems pretty good to me.  We'd have one hell of a side if our bowling were any good. A fair bit of the wickets in hand thing will just be the higher chance of having set batsmen in at the death. 

Having said that, DD has finished this without many wickets in hand and not scored many runs!

Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:08 PM BST
Lucky 4 but I don't think that's where you bowl at Morris.
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:09 PM BST
ffs I need a single off the last ball, a wide will do!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:09 PM BST
oh my WD
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:09 PM BST
this will be cruel
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:09 PM BST
lucky for you Uthappa is a shocking keeper!
Report 1alph1 April 17, 2017 1:09 PM BST
wow close
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:10 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 1:09PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


ffs I need a single off the last ball, a wide will do!


Should have cashed out after that Pants over, although obviously easy to say now.  Oh, no, you shouldn't have, easy win.

Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:10 PM BST
yeah baby
Report 1alph1 April 17, 2017 1:10 PM BST
Fancy KKR here
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:10 PM BST
Going to go for an Ayt prediction here.
Think KKR will get off to a good start and trade low and then lose (or at least have a bit of a collapse) !
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:10 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 1:10PM, 1alph1 wrote:


Fancy KKR here


I'm quite tempted to reverse my position, at least for the start of KKR innings.

Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:11 PM BST
needed 180 they did this is below par
Report GRANTCKING April 17, 2017 1:12 PM BST
KKR should be odds on here,strange prices
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:12 PM BST
Coulter Nile just confirmed it, new ball pitch!
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:12 PM BST
Although DD's bowling is pretty strong throughout and there is some action for quick bowling, at least some good bounce so wouldn't be surprised by an early wicket or two and DD just keeping control throughout.  It's not a big enough target to defend trivially without exerting a vice like grip though.
Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:13 PM BST
the pitch is flat kkr win
Report betfairchat April 17, 2017 1:13 PM BST
agree i think DD have had control just about entire innings and think steady wickets KKR inns so im edging DD but it is a lower than needed total
Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:14 PM BST
looked set for 180
Report Charlie April 17, 2017 1:14 PM BST
I think it's pretty even so have shifted greens with emphasis now on KKR.
Report Charlie April 17, 2017 1:16 PM BST
But if Narine opens and gets out quickly that may be a bad move.
Report DStyle April 17, 2017 1:17 PM BST
perfectly acceptable walk the dog price on the double ds, but it's easy in the Powerplay, and the Hasslehoffs could go very short in the first 10, especially with narine closing his eyes and swinging at everything.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:24 PM BST
oh my
BIG MAN!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:25 PM BST
DD in big trouble
Report DStyle April 17, 2017 1:27 PM BST
prefer themassivewoofter over narine against the quicks.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:28 PM BST
what a shocker!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:29 PM BST
Indian comms calling him Grand Home
Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:30 PM BST
stupid to have him open batting
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:31 PM BST
Reversing not looking a good call so far. Perhaps the actual proper openers can do okay for me.
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:36 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 1:31PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Reversing not looking a good call so far. Perhaps the actual proper openers can do okay for me.


Or not.  Should just have stuck rather than twisted looking to trade.  I've rarely done terribly well out of trading T20, although I am at least still a bit green on DD.

Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:39 PM BST
I do think 3.1 or so looks a fairly long price for this chase given one wicket was just the fat spinner but I'm not taking away my residual green to put money where mouth is on it.
Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:39 PM BST
slogger did you go all in on delhi
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 1:41 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 1:39PM, slip5 wrote:


slogger did you go all in on delhi


I did my now established bet a grand for value then top up with £500 to trade, which was working very nicely a few trades later to get me to £1.4k on DD for only £700 red on  KKR.  I then broke my plan to go bigger green on KKR, which has been less successful.

Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:45 PM BST

DD have picked the most wickets in powerplays (10), also have the best economy and average. And that's also 50 Powerplay wickets for Zaheer.


I have a strong fancy for the better bowling attacks in this IPL.
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:49 PM BST
over 79.5 in 12
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 1:50 PM BST
Going to take a very special innings from someone for KKR to win this
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 1:52 PM BST
Agreed for once. Delhi price is huge
Report slip5 April 17, 2017 1:56 PM BST
where shakib
Report peckerdunne April 17, 2017 2:04 PM BST
Delhi is huge if you get Yusuf......
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 2:07 PM BST
Mishra can be the weak link. The Indians will target him.

DD look like they are back in this. Glad I am not betting against them!
Report peckerdunne April 17, 2017 2:07 PM BST
Grin
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 2:10 PM BST
KKR I meant!

I gues this is the wonder of this game. They looked down and out and now look like they have Woakes at 8 and Coulter-Nil at 9. Battle lines drawn.

Not sure which way this will go and how a wicket will affect the game. How easy is it for new batsmen etc. I think DD should still be my favourite but I would be nervous if I had money on it. KKR are within acceptible runs /balls ratio's
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 2:12 PM BST
55555555555555
Report peckerdunne April 17, 2017 2:12 PM BST
Its a casino for rupee washing and leveraging.........

That's is soul purpose..

Anything else is just a subsidiary.
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 2:12 PM BST
boom over 79.5 Laugh  small bet Cry
Report peckerdunne April 17, 2017 2:14 PM BST
Shami playing his part quite well............Laugh
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 2:26 PM BST
Pandey is a very good batsman when he geta a chance!
Report Cardinal Scott April 17, 2017 2:28 PM BST
KKR look value to me, at this point!
Report Puzzman April 17, 2017 2:28 PM BST
need to see Zaheer off
Report GRANTCKING April 17, 2017 2:29 PM BST
KKR need 5 boundaries to win
Report Cardinal Scott April 17, 2017 2:30 PM BST
Big Yusuf is itching to put one in the stand!
Report 1alph1 April 17, 2017 2:30 PM BST
Morris still has 3 i believe. could be close
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 2:36 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 2:30PM, 1alph1 wrote:


Morris still has 3 i believe. could be close


Probably won't be but a wicket could just bring it back into the balance.  Was looking tight until the last three balls of that over went for 13.

Report Puzzman April 17, 2017 2:47 PM BST
thinking out tbh
Report Puzzman April 17, 2017 2:48 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 2:47PM, Puzzman wrote:


thinking out tbh


never mind

Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 2:59 PM BST
Gone surprisingly close to the wire from where we were a few overs back but it's still really just a few singles and one or two actual hits away.
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 3:01 PM BST
I don't have much on this any more as minor trading back the wrong way only after going bigger on to KKR.
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 3:02 PM BST
Goes to the last over anyway.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:03 PM BST
OH MY THAI
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 3:06 PM BST
Although I would prefer the DD win so carry on DD.  A Thai would shaft me a bit.

Poor Chris Woakes, yet another disappointing game for him.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:08 PM BST
oh my AYT KNEW!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:08 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 1:10PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Going to go for an Ayt prediction here.Think KKR will get off to a good start and trade low and then lose (or at least have a bit of a collapse) !


AYT LoveLove

Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 3:09 PM BST
Two pretty good balls under that massive last over pressure, you have to say.
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:10 PM BST
66666666666666666
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:11 PM BST
I smell a THAI
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:11 PM BST
GGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Report Fatslogger April 17, 2017 3:12 PM BST

Apr 17, 2017 -- 3:11PM, tomtimtum wrote:


I smell a THAI


Never likely, to be fair.  Oh well, medium win for me after a lot of effort getting my trading spot on during the DD innings then nowhere near after that.

Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 3:13 PM BST
Could Cummins have got that if he were on the rope?

Great game, enjoyed that. What a rollercoaster!
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:14 PM BST
oh my
Report tomtimtum April 17, 2017 3:14 PM BST
WD being converted to T20!
Report Whisperingdeath April 17, 2017 5:18 PM BST
I am just pretending as I am an under cover briber and corruption pfficer. I will be looking at some of the exchanges on here for suspicious betting patterns and inside information and tipping services!
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