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AB + Morkel out and Steyn coming back from Injury. Big Vern, one of my favourite bowlers, back.

Durban a result venue after decent 1st innings scores. Weather forecast good.

I tried to convince myself NZ a good chance, but failed. SAF bowling looks to strong. When in doubt, a draw back to lay. 4.5 would be nice.
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Report peckerdunne August 21, 2016 12:52 PM BST
Island life is great
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 12:53 PM BST
Canaries was no.1, theres a few different islands and each are different, so you can pick one which would suit you
Report peckerdunne August 21, 2016 12:55 PM BST
Ok Tom..That's enough to be going on with..i am salivating
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 12:55 PM BST
If you find anywhere better, let me know Grin
Report peckerdunne August 21, 2016 12:56 PM BST
Cool
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 12:56 PM BST
I made my choices based on wanting to trade cricket as well as wanting to come back to the UK pretty often to see family, depends what your needs are really
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 1:01 PM BST
Just hit 1.24 Cool
Report peckerdunne August 21, 2016 1:02 PM BST
Basically the same Tom...
Report peckerdunne August 21, 2016 1:03 PM BST
inspection time i think..
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:09 PM BST
ere we go then. Time for another inspection. Beautiful, sunny day today by the way. Just to rub it in. 'The umpires are going straight to the patch which was the problem, mid-off from the Umgeni End - to the right hander and then mid-on. That would be where the edge of the covers would be,' informs Firdose from the ground. Some NZ players have been spotted lingering about, to have a net probably but I'm also told the SA players aren't here.
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:09 PM BST
Saffers aren't even at the ground!Laugh
Report Chandigarh August 21, 2016 1:10 PM BST
Wet outfield wins out in the end. Play has been called off for the day.
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 1:10 PM BST
1.2 Excited
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:11 PM BST
Get away for the winter lads! When you trade on Betfair, you can live anywhere, so why not!!
Report TerryHurlock August 21, 2016 1:11 PM BST
1.2 is good yaExcited
Report scouceman August 21, 2016 1:12 PM BST
2.10pm That's it for day 3 as well, folks. It's stumps, without a ball bowled today
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 1:12 PM BST
Today was a good day Cool
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:12 PM BST
fan feckin tastic!
Report TerryHurlock August 21, 2016 1:12 PM BST
Ice Cube
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:14 PM BST
The forum has cleaned up today, everyone in unisonHappy
Report TerryHurlock August 21, 2016 1:15 PM BST
I used to say twitter wasn't usefulLaugh
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:15 PM BST
got to be 1.1 once the realisation sets in
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 1:15 PM BST
So I guess tomoro we bet on whether the ground is playable or not
Report VardonVoo. August 21, 2016 1:17 PM BST
When trading from other countries are there any tips for ensuring a reliable internet connexion?
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:17 PM BST
Only a follow on yields a possible result & that is 64!
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:18 PM BST

Aug 21, 2016 -- 1:17PM, VardonVoo. wrote:


When trading from other countries are there any tips for ensuring a reliable internet connexion?


Just buy the best bandwith. I get a great stable connection. Only been stung a few times in the last year with outages

Report VardonVoo. August 21, 2016 1:19 PM BST
Over the mobile network or via a wired cable service?
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:19 PM BST
Get on the SL game, coin to be made there too!!
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:20 PM BST

Aug 21, 2016 -- 1:19PM, VardonVoo. wrote:


Over the mobile network or via a wired cable service?


both, cover all eventualities

Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:20 PM BST
dovetail your mobile and router at home with different networks
Report jucel69 August 21, 2016 1:22 PM BST
I've got 2 sims from different networks for phones and then my main internet from another provider. Never had all three down at once.
Report Chandigarh August 21, 2016 1:36 PM BST
Mahela Jayawardena ‏@MahelaJay  4m4 minutes ago
This is why in SL we cover the entire ground!
Report the whizz kids August 21, 2016 2:48 PM BST
I'm looking at Spain for a few months after the next test but the Far East would be easier to trade during the winter. It would be Thailand as I know it well but long term visas are a nightmare. Malaysia is good for Brits as you get a 3 month visa on arrival and you can get a condo in Penang for 300 a month with motorbike and once a week cleaner. I've been at my parents for the last 4 months and need to get out asap.
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 4:00 PM BST
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-new-zealand-2016/content/story/10...

Looks deceived at Kingsmead when despite blue skies and sunshine, no play was possible on day three. A wet outfield, which has not recovered from the recent relaying process, took 65mm of rain overnight and did not dry out over the course of the morning and early afternoon. It has received a full day of sunshine and, barring any further mishaps, should be ready for play on Monday morning.

Dale Steyn, Vernon Philander and the rest of South Africa's attack will find conditions completely different to what they were when they took the field on Saturday afternoon. The overcast skies and persistent drizzle have moved away and after a full day of sun, the pitch would have flattened out.
Report tomtimtum August 21, 2016 4:01 PM BST
Even if the outfield does recover for them to start on time which I'm not convinced about, the pitch should be much easier to bat on and there's likely to be less cloud about.
Draw 1.01 Train for me
Report the whizz kids August 21, 2016 5:14 PM BST
I'm still sitting tight, with not much sunshine hours today, low winds and a little bit of dew over night I just can't see them starting on time again tomorrow.
I'm no expert but at 11am this morning they said that there had been very little improvement in the conditions and then the umps foot sunk 3 inches in the mud in the inner field. This was said 3 hours after the pitch was first looked at.
Report Fatslogger August 21, 2016 9:57 PM BST
Did manage to get £1.5k of draw at 1.58 earlier today although spoiled it by laying again for £1.25k of it at 1.48.  Didn't really imagine they'd lose the whole day.  Am therefore only losing just over £5k on this one.  Total carnage for me on this round of tests, having cleaned up on the last.  Am beating myself up a bit for being greedy with my NZ lay with my huge green early on day 2, wanting 3.1 or so when SA bowlers were obviously all over the openers like a rash.  Didn't call the amount of rain to end the day's play, let alone the effect on the outfield though.  Just felt like a game where bad weather would give the excellent swing bowling on both sides enough that even time lost wouldn't prevent a result but doesn't at all look like turning out that way. 

I've been too greedy with taking on draw red and not buying any draw back at higher prices too.  That 4.1-4.2 on the evening of day 1 looks immense in retrospect but was hoping for the SA innings to end that evening and 5s or near to be up, without realising they'd go off for light with the sun and the floodlights both up.  I was even thinking a couple of overs for SA and a wicket was possible.  Too romantic.
Report Fatslogger August 21, 2016 10:03 PM BST

Aug 21, 2016 -- 4:01PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Even if the outfield does recover for them to start on time which I'm not convinced about, the pitch should be much easier to bat on and there's likely to be less cloud about.Draw 1.01 Train for me


Although I think I'm screwed here and I don't think you're wrong about the pitch or necessarily about the number of overs they might get in, the SA pace attack is excellent and the Kiwi batting is terribly reliant on Williamson, as Taylor is their only other top batsman and is a bit loose against real excellence.  If Kane goes early, or even Taylor with Kane snared later on without going huge, a result remains possible.  If the Kiwis are out for 200 or fewer around tea, let alone before it, things could still happen.  I'm hoping for a SA second innings collapse of sufficiently biblical proportions that the Kiwi win comes back into the market but I don't really believe in it.  Frankly, if there's a SA win for my £1.3k green there, I'll be ecstatic.

Report detraveller August 21, 2016 10:23 PM BST
The last few tests i've been lying down in the open with my a;ss facing the sky and the rain has fecked me every time.

Got the better of it this time though nowhere near the losses ive had.
Report pxb August 22, 2016 1:37 AM BST
Sunshine and a decent breeze forecast for the morning. SAF Met says could be a bit of rain in the pm.
Report pxb August 22, 2016 1:39 AM BST
NZ can't win from here bar something extraordinary, but SAF still can.
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 2:30 AM BST
I can't see anything but a draw unless NZ have to follow on. You might as well back under 75 runs rather than lay the draw. Faf is deputising as captain so I can't see him being bold with a declaration.
Only Hanse Cronje could summon a result from here, re "sporting" declarations.
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 7:30 AM BST
Overcast and very windy at the ground today. No rain forecast
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 7:31 AM BST
Bowling day,overcast,humid,best day to bowl in the whole match so far #SAvNZ
Report tomtimtum August 22, 2016 8:13 AM BST
Draw 1.07 Excited
Report pxb August 22, 2016 8:14 AM BST
When a day lost to rain, follow on target is 150.
Report TerryHurlock August 22, 2016 8:14 AM BST
morning,cheers for the updates juce,yep looks like the outfield is still wet
Report tomtimtum August 22, 2016 8:15 AM BST
outfield still looks muddy
Report TerryHurlock August 22, 2016 8:17 AM BST
its been saturated since day one...on the draw but funny really because I wouldn't mind watching Steyne bowl at Williamson
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 8:20 AM BST
Innocent Bystander ‏@InnoBystander  7m7 minutes ago
Must be some horror books out there for the draw traders - pretty much straight lines for both tests, very little bounces to save books...
Report tomtimtum August 22, 2016 8:24 AM BST
BLACKCAPS ‏@BLACKCAPS 40s41 seconds ago Durban, South Africa

Umpires have meet & will meet again at midday - which means a two hour delay at least for day four #savnz ^WN
Report TerryHurlock August 22, 2016 8:28 AM BST
cheers tom,unbelievable really these two tests,thank gawd sri lanka know how to get a game on
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 8:51 AM BST
BLACKCAPS ‏@BLACKCAPS  36s36 seconds ago Durban, South Africa
Areas around boundary still the issue. Ok to stand on, but water coming up during movement. Expect delays #savnz ^WN
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 8:54 AM BST
Game over. Gave a bit back this morning messing around with the draw, but still a very tasty profit.
Report pxb August 22, 2016 9:07 AM BST
I moved some of my draw green to SAF at 1.06. Still a nice profit.
Report tomtimtum August 22, 2016 9:13 AM BST
Theres our 1.01 Grin
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 9:17 AM BST
funny thing is if they got on and NZ got skittled for under 100. They'd be 160 behind on the last day
Report pxb August 22, 2016 9:50 AM BST
funny thing is if they got on and NZ got skittled for under 100. They'd be 160 behind on the last day

That was pretty much my thinking.
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 10:36 AM BST
absolutely ridiculous that out of 6 days of test cricket there has been about 100 overs played
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 10:36 AM BST
maybe less
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 11:05 AM BST
Update from Kingsmead: umps doing the rounds on the field. Still a few damp spots. We'll post an update when we know more
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 11:22 AM BST
You were all expecting this - another inspection at 2pm. #SAvNZ
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 11:23 AM BST
No cricket here today .... umpires keep giving people false hope ... underfoot conditions are still soft inspection again at 14:00 ..amazing
Report tomtimtum August 22, 2016 11:25 AM BST
Not unexpected, was pretty bad yesterday
Report the whizz kids August 22, 2016 11:40 AM BST
Why don't all 4 captains just shake hands.
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 12:16 PM BST

Aug 22, 2016 -- 11:40AM, the whizz kids wrote:


Why don't all 4 captains just shake hands.


because they'd have to travel from South Africa to the Caribbean and that would take time and money

Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 12:16 PM BST
Silly
Report the whizz kids August 22, 2016 12:27 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 1:05 PM BST
Any odds for both India & West Indies forfeiting their first inns in Trinidad
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:06 PM BST

Aug 22, 2016 -- 1:05PM, Chandigarh wrote:


Any odds for both India & West Indies forfeiting their first inns in Trinidad


no point now

Report detraveller August 22, 2016 1:12 PM BST
Its just that the format with the least priority has been scheduled at the wrong time. We'll see more of this im sure.

Meanwhile i can't stop thinking. The groundsmen at Durban and PoS must have made a fortune!
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 1:14 PM BST
Watching the inspection and it doesn't look good. Saw an umpire twist his foot in the ground a big piece of mud comes up
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 1:18 PM BST
Play called off
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 1:18 PM BST
let's meet tomorrowLaughLaughLaugh
Report detraveller August 22, 2016 1:24 PM BST
i cashed out some of my green last night thinking we'l get play and wke up to draw 1.01

Anyhow not complaining as this was a train from 1.7 down! A profit is a profit.
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:29 PM BST
nothing easier than winning on a draw in cricket.
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:29 PM BST
can't be f*cked waiting for a rain affected draw when they happen about 1 in 20
Report Chandigarh August 22, 2016 1:30 PM BST
Surely,international grounds must have either super-draining outfields (as in UK) or complete sheet covering of outfield (as in Sri Lanka)
Report detraveller August 22, 2016 1:34 PM BST

Aug 22, 2016 -- 1:30PM, Chandigarh wrote:


Surely,international grounds must have either super-draining outfields (as in UK) or complete sheet covering of outfield (as in Sri Lanka)


I don't think UK is that advanced. When last did UK hold tests in October - March? Off season is off season. It's not like these grounds had super drainage facilities which disappeared this year. They were always like this. Its the games that have been played at the wrong time. Asi said, the least important format in terms of money is paying the price.

Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:35 PM BST
what an absolute waste of everyones time these two tests have been. Imagine having to field for 90 overs tomorrow knowing it's a complete waste of time
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:36 PM BST
id open the bowling with Ross Taylor and Guptill
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:36 PM BST
and India bowl Rohit Sharma and Saha
Report Mike-lfc August 22, 2016 1:37 PM BST
get Ishant Sharma to keep
Report Whisperingdeath August 22, 2016 2:01 PM BST
Well I walked away with enough green for a nice meal in each Test so am not going to complain. IMHO they need to look at the structuring of test Cricket World wide. For me getting up at 5.30 and watching cricket till 10 pm is a little excessive and borders on the obsessive compulsive ( but I won ha ).

Someone should prepare a calender with vested interests and the TV companies. Let T20 have first pick for all I care but Let India choose with Big bash, Carribean, Paks etc and incorporate test Matches into the system. It is wrong for WI to have Test atches but their best players and the fans going to a CPL bash! Three Test Matches on at the same time is wrong as are two pleyed out of season and predictably rained off!

Maybe the fans in each country should come together and decise as the grown yp's are more interested in Empire building! For example we could follow the IPL and have a National T20 condensed straight after the IPL then go on to Test Match season. Then the next T20 season or Test match series depending on season. Inter weave Test Matches from different countries etc.

Or let anrachy prevail and watch our sport wither
Report VardonVoo. August 22, 2016 4:01 PM BST
Or they could invest in more cat-litter and helicopters.
Report jucel69 August 22, 2016 11:37 PM BST
Any chance of play on the 5th day? Will the umps risk the player's safety when there is zero chance of any result?
It was still pretty muddy yesterday
Report DAN1974 August 23, 2016 8:03 AM BST
i hope not, we will get paid out earlier Grin.

Ive cleaned up on these two tests tbf, but i would much rather of done it with some clever trading backwards and forwards as the match progresses than lumping on the draw.
Report jucel69 August 23, 2016 8:11 AM BST
Looks like they will be playing.
Good sign. Practice nets going up. Pic courtesy of @AneshDebiky #SAvNZ #SSCricket
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqhqi5WWcAAdYDl.jpg
Report jucel69 August 23, 2016 8:13 AM BST
The ultimate exercise in futility
Report stokergoinup August 23, 2016 8:16 AM BST
Small green on NZ innings runs market but market void if less than 20 overs bowled so hoping for some play today.
Report jucel69 August 23, 2016 8:17 AM BST
game called off
Report jucel69 August 23, 2016 8:19 AM BST

Aug 23, 2016 -- 8:16AM, stokergoinup wrote:


Small green on NZ innings runs market but market void if less than 20 overs bowled so hoping for some play today.


hadn't noticed that. Never really thought about it in Test cricket. Had a nice green tooCry

Report stokergoinup August 23, 2016 8:22 AM BST
What a bloody farce.
Report jucel69 August 23, 2016 8:26 AM BST
Strange how they never used sawdust or anything to dry those wet parts.
To be fair, when I saw those mud patches on Sunday, I did fear the worst as they just churn and churn.
Report stokergoinup August 23, 2016 8:33 AM BST
The outfield was barely playable on the first day before the big downpour.I backed the draw because of this and the weather forecast for the next day.The 8 wickets spooked me and I didn't make anything.Nothing worse than calling it right and not making any money.The void innings runs market just tops it off!
Report Mike-lfc August 23, 2016 9:08 AM BST
9.40am Here is BlackCaps' tweet: "Very disappointing. We were dying to get out there. But we respect the decision." - Faf du Plessis.
Report Mike-lfc August 23, 2016 9:08 AM BST
when did Faf become a New Zealander?
Report Mike-lfc August 23, 2016 9:13 AM BST
what happens if you laid NZ 75 or more for example?
Report Whisperingdeath August 23, 2016 12:45 PM BST

stokergoinup
23 Aug 16 08:33

The outfield was barely playable on the first day before the big downpour.I backed the draw because of this and the weather forecast for the next day.The 8 wickets spooked me and I didn't make anything.Nothing worse than calling it right and not making any money.The void innings runs market just tops it off!


erm...... yes there is stoke! but I get your point. Just take the smart arse position, you were rightLaugh! I understand your frustration but worse things happen at sea! I am over the moon at getting out without a loss. I learnt a good lesson or reminder at least... Attention to detail!

I did not see the muddy patches or take heed of any warning signs. Switch form the Carribean to Sri Lanka to South Africa is dangerous. Different Continents, soils, climates, time zones, sun sets etc etc etc.

Sometimes it comes to easy but this was a stark reminder it can go even quicker.
Report stokergoinup August 23, 2016 3:43 PM BST
Thanks WD,I think Laugh
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