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Only 2 days away.

As I said in the previous thread, can't see SAF batting improving much and no Steyn makes their bowling weak. The only thing stopping me majorly lumping on Eng is it has been a very long time since anyone except Australia has beaten SAF here.

Weather not an issue at this point.
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Report detraveller January 5, 2016 3:03 PM GMT
England at one point 1.57, now trading at 140!
Report Injera January 5, 2016 3:08 PM GMT
It's not an overly dry pitch. Durban was and broke up very quickly. This one's held together very well. That indicates moisture.

It's just a belter. A one day pitch.

Shame about the 10 dropped catches though...

England a hundred light..Shocked
Report detraveller January 5, 2016 3:20 PM GMT
If England had held on to their catches, they would have been thinking about declaration in their second innings right now. Flat pitch or not, Stokes gave them a HUGE advantage and they have squandered it! Now in the field for 209 overs!!!
Report Injera January 5, 2016 3:23 PM GMT
The 4th new ball will be key for England...
Report Injera January 5, 2016 3:30 PM GMT
Amla stuffs Innings Lead backers Shocked
Report detraveller January 5, 2016 3:34 PM GMT
Would love to see a wicket tonight and cashout of my SA bet.
Report wondersobright January 5, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
4th new ballCry how about a 5th lol
Report detraveller January 5, 2016 3:38 PM GMT

Jan 5, 2016 -- 3:08PM, Injera wrote:


It's not an overly dry pitch. Durban was and broke up very quickly. This one's held together very well. That indicates moisture.It's just a belter. A one day pitch.Shame about the 10 dropped catches though...England a hundred light..


The comms said there was extra water sprinked at the end(because of the lack of water used 'during' preparation). This extra water has held the pitch together and stopped it from deteriorating. Thats what they say. SA pacers did a pretty good job getting the first 5 wickets. England was horrible.

Report cricketnut2 January 5, 2016 10:07 PM GMT
Batting was at its hardest on the 1st day, not that it was particularly difficult then. 13 wickets in 4 days, although the fielding on both sides, has been awful.
Report sonofshinner January 6, 2016 8:40 AM GMT
17-1
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 8:46 AM GMT
19-2
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 8:46 AM GMT
I got. Big green SA
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 8:47 AM GMT
Hello sailor
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 8:47 AM GMT
I had backed them at 36 but cashed out :(
Report Injera January 6, 2016 8:47 AM GMT
What prices Whispering?
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 8:49 AM GMT
Draw at 1.12. Good price to back? Or is it hard to trust England here?
Report sonofshinner January 6, 2016 8:50 AM GMT
Quick..get stokes in.
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 8:50 AM GMT
Well done wd
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 9:03 AM GMT
SA have bowled pretty well without Steyn and Philander whereas Eng have been pathetic even with Anderson.
Got to love Rabada!
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 9:08 AM GMT
Average 17.74

Got some at 42 and 38 just in case

Would have had more but layed SA too early at4, 3.95 and 2.9 so did not get a chance to lay them at sub 3 when I would have hammered it!

Can't decide wether to stick or twist. 1 more wicket and I can still keep SA onside . It will be a draw but there will also be blood!

Got 1600 SA green to play with
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 9:09 AM GMT
England were 220 a few minutes ago!
Report Injera January 6, 2016 9:11 AM GMT
Well played sir!

So often wise to 'load up on the dog' and wait for a nbice surprise.

Trouble is there were 2 dogs!

Oh wow, another!
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 9:12 AM GMT
noball
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 9:16 AM GMT
You got to laugh when it goes well . I was convinced England would win but managed to get a big draw green half of which I gave away to green up on all results.

Root would have been amazing but the prices didn't drop so they must have known it was a no ball.

Now I wave to wait and let the chips fall for glory. I am happy with my draw green. I just wanted to scratch back a hundred and something but will not clear my SA green as you just never know but I'd give up half
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 9:28 AM GMT
Half and half but really should I let it ride?
Report Injera January 6, 2016 9:28 AM GMT
Root's gone now.

He has this one weakness of playing too deep in the crease. I wonder why it's not exploited more.
Report Injera January 6, 2016 9:30 AM GMT
WD - well, you've called it right to get into this position so if it was me I would take the profit and move on.

Everyone's different though.

Eng's chances of winning are of course increasing with every wicket.
Report johniek January 6, 2016 9:47 AM GMT
Crazy that England are now in this position after day 1&2
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 9:48 AM GMT
if Stokes hadn't played thar well, they would be starig into an innings defeat now.
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 9:49 AM GMT
or if they hadn't dropped the 10 catches, they would have been bowling at SA by now.
Report johnnyrant January 6, 2016 10:01 AM GMT
Eng great value at 110. SA could easily be skittled chasing, say, 150.
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 10:23 AM GMT
85-4
Report jucel69 January 6, 2016 10:25 AM GMT
Eng wobbling like a tranny in stilettos
Report crete January 6, 2016 10:33 AM GMT
what was the point of the England declaration in the 1st innings? They were 1-0 up in the series, scoring at a fast rate - and if they were going to win it didn't matter if they had spent 10-15 more overs.
Report jucel69 January 6, 2016 10:39 AM GMT

Jan 6, 2016 -- 10:33AM, crete wrote:


what was the point of the England declaration in the 1st innings? They were 1-0 up in the series, scoring at a fast rate - and if they were going to win it didn't matter if they had spent 10-15 more overs.


Has Cook done a Freddy??

Report jucel69 January 6, 2016 11:01 AM GMT
Got a feeling England will be all out. Whether or not it is a manageable chase is the question. Batting 3rd when you have nothing to gain can be tricky. Pak almost did it against England last year
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 11:13 AM GMT
If England get bowled out this session, it would be a chaseable target(180-230 in 30 overs)
Im pretty sure England would go for shots here. A quick 40 from one of them will ensure a draw.
Report liam1982 January 6, 2016 11:20 AM GMT
every england test game i watch seems to be the draw nailed on after day 2/3 then the last day there's always a bit of a surprise
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 11:37 AM GMT
This is very much game on. 59 overs left. Ball is reversing. Probably will be a draw but I do hope there are somes serious nerves. People were rightly complaining about the wicket but it just goes to show what can happen when the ball does swing.

Determined not to throw away my profit. have set the trap and if there are quick wickets I will increase my cash out and if there aren't shall just be greatful I didn't fall into the England trap!
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 12:01 PM GMT
Boing

...said Zeberdee!

Sitting big on SA and England! you never know. It might just be a cunning plan from Bayliss!
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:01 PM GMT
England!
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:02 PM GMT
Ive waited all day for the draw price to come up so thati can back it. Now that it has come to 1.36, i have zero trust in England.
Report johnnythebull January 6, 2016 12:02 PM GMT
absolute handjobs..can't handle the self imposed pressure
and the runless capt. biggest of the lot
Report sageform January 6, 2016 12:03 PM GMT
SA must be fav now. 4 more wickets for another 40 runs before tea and a run chase. What an inconsistent shower England still are.
Report johnnyrant January 6, 2016 12:04 PM GMT
Eng can easily win this. SA will cough it up chasing the target.
Report salmon spray January 6, 2016 12:04 PM GMT
OMG.
No test side has ever lost having scored 600 in the 1st innings. This could easily be a first now.
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:05 PM GMT
Whispering Deatch must be sitting pretty now on SA, if he hasnt cashed out yet.
Report johnnythebull January 6, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
SA touched 85..the draw 1.04..choking Eng 1.56..think they lose this unless the tail can do what the so called top order abjectly couldn't

Botham very hubristic..thought it was a done deal after Stokes pyrotechnics
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:09 PM GMT
52 overs left? lose 2 with change of innings, means 50 left? Dont think theres enough time for SA to win
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:10 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2016 -- 12:09PM, tomtimtum wrote:


52 overs left? lose 2 with change of innings, means 50 left? Dont think theres enough time for SA to win


Is that lack of mathematics knowledge or lack of cricketing sense?

Report Fangsy January 6, 2016 12:11 PM GMT
If England can bat after tea the runs/overs equation is probably OK, but certainly not before.
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 12:11 PM GMT
England need to play for time! Another 50 odd runs could make them safe enough but this game is nuts!

Here comes Geoffrey on Radio 5 livesx
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
Well im a full time cricket trader, so I hope its neither!
Report johnnythebull January 6, 2016 12:13 PM GMT
lead is fairly paltry if these other wkts go cheaply
our 'tail' is more steadfast than the t0ssers aboveit
think there'll be a stand or two to 'run down the clock'..to use an NFL metaphor
but wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Saffers went on to win the next 2 and the series
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:15 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2016 -- 12:12PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Well im a full time cricket trader, so I hope its neither!


Respect.
But i really dont understand how 50 overs remaining in the gme, Eng leading by 124 with 4 wkt in hand cannot be a SA victory.
Eng bat 20 more overs, and give SA 200 t chase in 30 overs, thats gettable.

Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:15 PM GMT
200 in 30 overs in test match isnt gettable
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:15 PM GMT
oh sorry misread that
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:17 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2016 -- 12:15PM, detraveller wrote:


Jan  6, 2016 -- 12:12PM, tomtimtum wrote:Well im a full time cricket trader, so I hope its neither!Respect.But i really dont understand how 50 overs remaining in the gme, Eng leading by 124 with 4 wkt in hand cannot be a SA victory.Eng bat 20 more overs, and give SA 200 t chase in 30 overs, thats gettable.


Not saying it can't just saying I don't think it will be.

Report trader pj January 6, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
there are some dark clouds - any chance of rain? hahahhaa Grin
Report johniek January 6, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
Cook looks peeved off
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
SA are battling on two fronts, losing time and each run they concede means they have to chase more
Report familyman January 6, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
Theoretically, the fact there are no fielding restrictions in Tests means that if Cook wanted to be a total spoilsport, he could make it very hard? But I guess it isn't the done thing to have 8 on the boundary?
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
Great finish anyways to the test. I have to go to work now. Will keep my mobile on with cricinfo and hope the cameras dont catch me checking out the score every 5 min :D
Report trader pj January 6, 2016 12:19 PM GMT
"work" ?! Happy
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:29 PM GMT
Work with cameras watching? Scared
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:31 PM GMT
I missed most of this test and ended up bailing out on a huge red on the safffers earlier...need to give up work!
Report detraveller January 6, 2016 12:32 PM GMT
Yeah ive a part time job at a store where we arent allowed to have mobile phones with us. Eff them. You only get fired after 3 warnings and ive never yet been caught.
Report trader pj January 6, 2016 12:34 PM GMT
Draw was backable at 1.45 40 minutes ago! Shocked
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 12:35 PM GMT
200 in 40 overs would be pretty tough
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:35 PM GMT
Missed my lay on Saf at 8.4, couldnt get matched and now shot up to 12.5 Angry
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
can almost smell a wicket
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
chance gone
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
short lived chance Laugh
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
oh small beans here Terry,

It might affect my Social Security BenefitsWink!

Just happy to have a half decent win after predicting and backing the wrong results and now I don't know what the result will be I am rather pleased with myself!
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
wow thats close
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
cracking game. in out?
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
market says in
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:53 PM GMT
market split
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:53 PM GMT
I believe you wd..........bollinger and caviar only on giro day eh

shi t Barstow might be out
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:53 PM GMT
50 50 gotta leave him in
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
some burnt fingers on this one
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
Where's 3rd umpire from?
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
he'll be out next ball anyway. wasting a lot of time this with poor light
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
just in, imo
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
in
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
Soooo close
Report Whisperingdeath January 6, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
OMFG

That would have been beautiful! Lucky boy!
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
he'll be out next ball now
Report trader pj January 6, 2016 12:58 PM GMT
Raining
Report TerryHurlock January 6, 2016 12:58 PM GMT
Comms said its raining now
Report tomtimtum January 6, 2016 12:59 PM GMT
looks gloomy
Report trader pj January 6, 2016 1:01 PM GMT
Draw has gone from 1.19  to 1.02 in 5 minutes!
Report sageform January 6, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
saved by rain after getting 629 in the first innings! Has that ever happened before?
Report ColdTurkey January 6, 2016 1:12 PM GMT
Poor Amla. gotta hand it to him for trying. Definitely the sporting option.
Report johnnyrant January 6, 2016 6:03 PM GMT
I don't think the bad light saved Eng. SA can try and put some positive spin on this test match but the ball was doing a lot more on the final day and I think SA would have struggled to get 150-200.
Report sonofshinner January 6, 2016 6:45 PM GMT
the pitch was set up supposedly so S.A.wouldnt go 2 down in the series...dont no why england took the risk...should of kept on batting in the 1st innings.
Report Foinavon January 6, 2016 7:17 PM GMT
A great pity we had to wait for day 5 to see something for the bowlers. A bit of this on day 4 and we might have had a result. Was looking at a total wipe-out yesterday but managed to trim my losses by just under a third today so not all in vain.
Report pxb January 6, 2016 11:38 PM GMT
Should we expect another road in the next Test in Joburg?
Report Foinavon January 7, 2016 12:05 AM GMT
If only we knew for sure, we would be rich.
South Africa need to win at least one, would think a lot depends on whether Steyn is back.
Report maleuk01. January 7, 2016 12:20 AM GMT
Don't think bad light saved eng, already well on the way to being a draw.

However I think it shows declaring over an hour before tea on day 2 is too early (even scoring 629) if there is no bad weather around. Unless its a must win game.

Fortunately SA scored very slowly for their 627, if they got their score in 40 overs less, then Eng could have been in big trouble.

at 629-6 Eng should have carried on batting aggressively.
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