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By:
cricketnut2
When: 13 Oct 15 11:41
Big wicket for England, as they desperatly needed that, just on tea time, if they can get another quick one after tea, then the game could change abit.
By:
DStyle
When: 13 Oct 15 11:48
probably two more. malik, khan and misbah are limpets. 260-4 would be a pretty good day for england.
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 13 Oct 15 11:54
sounds weird i know but i think the more wickets that Pakistan lose the more chance of a draw
By:
DStyle
When: 13 Oct 15 11:58
cricketnut2 13 Oct 15 10:57 

    Oct 13, 2015 -- 10:38AM, DStyle wrote:


    cricketnut2 13 Oct 15 09:44  Rashid, I saw him bowl, in the last County Championship game against Sussex, he bowled some dross, in his overs, but ended up with 4 wickets, so he's going to get hit, but all we can hope is that he can get wickets at this level, as well, as he certainly spins the ball big time.Stuart McGill bowled lots of dross too. Most leg spinners do. Bowlers like Kumble and Warne are as rare as hen's teeth, yet somehow Cook is afraid to bowl someone who is getting targetted and hit.If Hafeez wants to sweep against the turn, i say let him, he'll make a mistake eventually. Ali is no threat with his little darts, but Cook prefers him because he's keeping the rate down. But what does that mean? That they'll be on 600 by the close tomorrow instead of an hour before?


Yes I know that, bowling out of the back of the hand is very difficult to do, so obviously the run rate rises, when he bowls, but I am hoping he can take wickets at this level. He nearly got one last over and this is the thing that favours Rashid, as well as the fact that he does turn the ball.


sorry if it seems like i was being patronising and trying to educate you: i wasn't. it was more that i felt i like stating the glaringly obvious because i am constantly amazed that Cook is so reluctant to acknowledge it.
By:
cricketnut2
When: 13 Oct 15 13:16
No thats ok, Cook, is happy to bowl the boring bowlers, with boring field placings, however a wicket falls just as I write. I like Rashid, just for the fact, he is likely to take wickets, as I said, he bowled some rubbish at Headingly on the final day, but what he did do was take wickets, which is the most important thing to do, you don't win Tests, unless you take 20 wickets and seam bowling isn't going to do that, in the UAE.
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Oct 15 13:17
Ramiz Raja talking about 3 men in the ring. Gives me terrible deja vu about a Michael Barrymore pool party I attended.
By:
BJT
When: 13 Oct 15 13:37
Ummm.  Say what?  How does he overturn that?
By:
DStyle
When: 13 Oct 15 13:38
can't complain but that's a miserable decision assuming sky have the same audio as the 3rd umpire.
By:
mafeking
When: 13 Oct 15 13:39
noise could only have been bat but what's the point of having reviews if there's no snicko or hot spot ?
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Oct 15 13:39
another in a long line of unbelievable 3rd umpire decisions.
By:
DStyle
When: 13 Oct 15 13:42
my gut feeling is that if india weren't such almighty dicks about DRS and every country agreed to use it, the ICC could make the necessary and fair arrangements so that every test had the gamut of review equipment and it was paid for by the ICC.
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Oct 15 13:45
pure guesswork without the technology
By:
BJT
When: 13 Oct 15 13:58
Cook gone off to see if he takes the new ball or not.  Puppet...
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 13 Oct 15 14:26
bell Cry
By:
trader pj
When: 13 Oct 15 14:33
slowest pitch I've ever seen. All points to a draw imo
By:
pxb
When: 13 Oct 15 16:16
Draw big at 2.64 IMO.

Possibly assuming Bell's batting will be as good as his catching.
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Oct 15 19:10
We shall find out tomorrow. Could be fun.
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 13 Oct 15 19:51

Oct 13, 2015 -- 2:33PM, trader pj wrote:


slowest pitch I've ever seen. All points to a draw imo


think draw is very short with 4 clear days left and pakistan currently in for a 450 plus run lead batting first Cool

By:
mafeking
When: 13 Oct 15 21:11
hard to have to much confidence in england posting a decent 1st inns score after best part of 2 days roasting in the heat however batsman friendly the conditions

can hardly remember them making any sort of score over 300 against proper opposition in the 1st inns of an away series in the last 5 years
By:
pxb
When: 13 Oct 15 22:19
Moen opening should make tomorrow interesting. On a flat deck it might not be such a terrible idea. Although chances are it will be.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 14 Oct 15 05:16
Not sure what to make of this, After the 6/7 week break from tests I thought I would take it easy on the first few tests trading between 200 and 500 just to get into the swing of things? First bet was a lay of Eng for 500 at 3.4, how silly was i ????????
All green is now on Pakistan as this should be the train to 1.01svile
By:
the whizz kids
When: 14 Oct 15 05:25
Pakistan look massive at 1.9 and this looks like being a non trading event.
By:
jucel69
When: 14 Oct 15 05:59
Agree whizz kid, I just can't see England batting well enough to save the game. Bairstow, Stokes and Buttler look weak in the middle and not convinced about Ali up front. Cook & Root v Pak doesn't bode well
By:
pxb
When: 14 Oct 15 07:12
Pak content to see off the new ball here.
By:
pxb
When: 14 Oct 15 07:22
Draw has shortened a bit but still looks too big to me.

What price the draw if Eng 70/1 at stumps?
By:
sageform
When: 14 Oct 15 08:21
What a crazy place to play cricket though. 38 degrees and no spectators.
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 14 Oct 15 09:38
just over £3m traded so far on match odds which is a little worrying, especially for an England test match ShockedSad
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 14 Oct 15 09:39
whats the norm?
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 14 Oct 15 10:19
would be on average 4/5 million a day !!!, having said that the ashes this year did not see a test top 20m traded Shocked
By:
BJT
When: 14 Oct 15 10:19
Should really look to declare soon, but can see they will likely wait for the milestones.  200 for Malik and 100 for Shafiq.  Clearly not upping the tempo looking for a dec at the moment,
By:
cricketnut2
When: 14 Oct 15 10:21

Oct 14, 2015 -- 8:21AM, sageform wrote:


What a crazy place to play cricket though. 38 degrees and no spectators.


The trouble is Pakistan, have nowhere else to play and there is no wonder nobody is watching, because it is so one sided, as bowlers have nothing going for them, its just bat, bat, bat, until you drop. Now we have to wait until England bat, to see if Pakistan can get something out of the track, that England can't, but if they don't, then there can only be 1 result and thats a draw.

By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 14 Oct 15 10:22
unlikely IMO, think 550 plus or bat all day, no point in declaring when pitch not doing a great deal, i laid draw yesterday, now dumped it Cool
By:
BJT
When: 14 Oct 15 10:22
Can't win if you bat til the end.  Got to get them in before you can get them out...
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 14 Oct 15 10:23
Pakistan play not to lose, any win is a bonus !!!
By:
BJT
When: 14 Oct 15 10:23
For England to take a 1st innings lead, already puts us deep into day 4 at this score....
By:
pxb
When: 14 Oct 15 10:28
Pak will declare and give Eng maybe 12 overs at the end of the day.
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 14 Oct 15 10:32

Oct 14, 2015 -- 10:22AM, PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH wrote:


unlikely IMO, think 550 plus or bat all day, no point in declaring when pitch not doing a great deal, i laid draw yesterday, now dumped it


you don't wanna be bowling twice in a row on this though

By:
Mike-lfc
When: 14 Oct 15 10:32
if i was Pakistan id wanna declare... try and bowl them out then bat again for 50 overs or so
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 14 Oct 15 10:33
keep England out in the heat as long as possible, just give them no chance !!!
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 14 Oct 15 10:34

Oct 14, 2015 -- 10:33AM, PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH wrote:


keep England out in the heat as long as possible, just give them no chance !!!


yeh but then Pakistan have to do the same

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