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We obviously need to start with who needs to be dropped from the England team.

To early to say much about the weather.

I don't know why we have these tour games slotted in between Tests. Useless for betting.
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Report wondersobright July 30, 2015 6:07 PM BST

Jul 30, 2015 -- 11:58AM, Foinavon wrote:


If Aussies get 100 lead we could be in for some nervous antics during the 4th innings


definitely!!
120-130 would be a tricky target if aus can get to that lead and bowl well in the 4th inns

Report johnnythebull July 30, 2015 6:12 PM BST
49k up at 1.05 eng
absolute free money 4 big hitters
Report Whisperingdeath July 30, 2015 6:16 PM BST
After the first match when my ring went for some strange reason while Aussie were chasing 450 odd in the fourth innings and were close to evens and I didn't hammer the b'jesus out of it I resolved to overcome my fears of other peoples irrational fears and back my judgement.

I am pleased to report I managed to do this but still managed to cook it up somewhat.

At 15.01 Aus were still 4's so I thought I would attack it so I layed some and got 3.80. Still in shock I bought or rather layed some more at 3.60 at 15.04pm. Within a few minutes they went sub 3 and I though WTF but still remained intact in the nether regions and bought or rather layed some more at 2.98 at 15.12pm.

At this point I had to go to the gymnasium so left some floating lay of 2.4 which got taken at 15.28pm. I went to the gym and heard a wicket on the radio but the price was still 3.20 something so I tried to lay some more but got locked out.

Can anyone explain wtf happened and how Aussie dropped from 4 to 2.4 in minutes? it was weird. They were still 100 odd behind. Incredible!
Report johnnythebull July 30, 2015 6:33 PM BST
all about perception & opinion
if in your view the odds of how you perceive/gut feel things will pan out are wrong/egregiously generous you have to fill your boots
if they are too skinny i.e. ppl are of the same persuasion i tend to have less on as even tho' the contingency is likely to unfurl in your favour the odds are unrepresentative
each to his own
Report Whisperingdeath July 30, 2015 6:39 PM BST
yes agrred. I think sometimes though you can just see an open goal and during the first test I just could not understand why Aus got close to evens chasing 450 and it freaked me out so I left it. Just sometimes in life though when it walks like and duck and looks like a duck it is a duck and today for me was one of those daysWink
Report sageform July 30, 2015 7:43 PM BST
We should be able to take 3 more wickets on this pitch but can we take 20 in the next match without Jimmy Anderson?
Report DStyle July 30, 2015 8:09 PM BST
that would depend entirely on what type of wicket Strauss tells Nottinghamshire to produce.
Report Try My Best July 30, 2015 9:10 PM BST
What makes it worse is that the Pommies are a dreadful side and at the moment it looks like the world rankings are upside down. I would drop Clarke, Voges and Marsh. Make Smith the captain and get Khawaja in. If you carry on doing the same things we will be beat but Clarke has done nothing for the side this series and that is unacceptable for a player of his calibre. It's harsh but he he can't buy a run and his technique looks dreadful.
Report johnnyrant July 30, 2015 9:26 PM BST
Dreadful? Then this Oz side is utter sh*te. Any Ashes series exposes weak links & atm there appear to be far more in the Oz side (Voges, Marsh, Starc...) compared to England (Lyth).

Clarke's having a bad trot but is a class player. Neville is still finding his feet but looks like he has a bit of backbone. Bairstow needs to be given a few more tests before condemning him. As a bowling unit Eng look much stronger on pitches offering some assistance. As for the batting, both top orders look brittle.
Report earlycrow July 30, 2015 11:15 PM BST
Both teams are very poor in the batting department, if you think Lyth is England's only weak point you haven't been watching. Clarke is gone, his back is not allowing him to move his feet the way he once did. He will retain his position because he is captain and Marsh will need to replace Voges. Australia will have their fingers crossed that Barstow sees out the series. Australia's bowling this test has been very poor, Starc needs to make way, his spells before lunch yesterday was appalling at best. England show us how to bowl on a seaming wicket and it wasn't making the batsman play at one in ten balls. As a lover of test cricket this series has been hard to watch.
Report pxb July 30, 2015 11:19 PM BST
A match to  lose your shirt on.

I'll make a small and thoroughly undeserved profit on this. Got it completely wrong, and saved by Finn, who I must say I rated and wondered why he wasn't in the Eng team.

Agree that Clarke has to go, but I've thought that for a while. But I doubt it will happen before the next Test.
Report Mr Eboue July 30, 2015 11:29 PM BST
Clarke just looks so uncomfortable at the crease.

There's time when, as a batsmen, you have tough times - you get a few jaffa's, someone pulls off a miracle catch etc.

But he looks genuinely shot to bits. As uncomfortable as Lyth, if not worse.
Report Try My Best July 30, 2015 11:38 PM BST
What did you not understand Johnny. The rankings don't lie, i.e Australia are rated a far better side than the Pomms in all forms of cricket at this time and yet the performance this series looks like it should be the other way around. England are a poor side as the rankings suggest but we have looked even worse. God how we need a Steve Waugh now.
Report dibdob July 31, 2015 1:06 AM BST
@Try my best. There are no outstanding teams in test cricket right now. Most teams lack in players of true test match quality, especially with all the retirements in the last few years. Players are generally flourishing in home conditions making teams look good in a home test match series. The lack of quality, adaptability and general metal frailties however make them all pretty awful away.

This includes England who despite being extremely pathetic in the short game, have still remained an adequate test side. Particularly at home.  This disparity between home and away performances has made a bit of a mockery of the test rankings right now.

The fact that Bangladesh are proving to be a tough nut to crack at home and a slighlty above average New Zealand side can man for man give any other test team a run for its money should tell you all you need to know about Test cricket right now. If New Zealand had Vettori and Ryder available they would probably be the strongest Test team out there right now.
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 6:37 AM BST
england should just about prevail.....think the shorter versions of cricket are ruining test cricket...gone are the days when a player could bat for a couple of days..now its a couple of hours.
Report earlycrow July 31, 2015 10:29 AM BST
Anderson ruled out and won't bat here, advantage Australia
Report Foinavon July 31, 2015 10:35 AM BST
The Burnley Lara ruled out! Shocked
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 10:36 AM BST
really good insight here from Heals re wktkeeping
Report treble July 31, 2015 10:42 AM BST
Is there a 'will Ricky Ponting smash the TV' market!
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 10:43 AM BST
wtf is this, the Aussie sycophant segment
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 10:44 AM BST
Ian Ward has got a sky sponsored side stepper on
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 10:52 AM BST
Never has so much semen been spilled on a pre watershed programme Crazy
Report pxb July 31, 2015 11:00 AM BST
Huge crowd considering this won't go to lunch.
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 11:01 AM BST
aussie lead now 23 ..when is it squeaky bum time for eng chasing?
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:02 AM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 5:01AM, johnnythebull wrote:


aussie lead now 23 ..when is it squeaky bum time for eng chasing?


45

Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 11:03 AM BST
many a true word spoken in jestGrin
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:03 AM BST
Nah the only times Eng have a mega wobble is against spin. Aus are devoid of spin so we should be ok up to 200.
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 11:05 AM BST
f*ck that handjob Broad's 300th wkt
hope Finn gets all the last 3
Report pxb July 31, 2015 11:05 AM BST
Johnson might disagree.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:09 AM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 5:05AM, pxb wrote:


Johnson might disagree.


very difficult to defend 200 on your own. Starc and Hazelwood seem off the boil and rat boy is mediocre at best. He is of the same standard as Ashley Giles

Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:11 AM BST
Eng's odds are drifting already! The lack of belief in the punters is palpable
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 11:12 AM BST
if oz keep this up till lunch they could win this.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:12 AM BST
You will find Eng punters will back England to the hilt until they get in an unassailable position. Then they turn like pit vipers.
Report GRANTCKING July 31, 2015 11:14 AM BST
any aussies in here who watch afl? hawthorne 1/6 favss at home, have scored 3 points in 18mins???
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 11:16 AM BST
the big odds on boys will just be filling their boots for the % return
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:17 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGLHW1hY-CY
Report posy July 31, 2015 11:18 AM BST
laying oz at 10 really is money for nothing.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:19 AM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 5:16AM, johnnythebull wrote:


the big odds on boys will just be filling their boots for the % return


This is not the sort of game to go balls deep on short odds. The Ashes throws up some Herculean efforts on both sides

Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 11:21 AM BST
introduce stokesy and root sharpish...
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 11:24 AM BST
there has been precedent but i'd say the efforts to date have been more Minnie Mouse than Hercules
looks like they'll nick a few runs..the aussies but no way eng don't get over the line here
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:32 AM BST
This is going to be a longish day
Report Darlo Bantam July 31, 2015 11:37 AM BST
Draw price coming in. Someone fancies these two to bat for three days then.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:37 AM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 5:37AM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Draw price coming in. Someone fancies these two to bat for three days then.


meWink

Report Darlo Bantam July 31, 2015 11:39 AM BST
I couldn't back the draw with stolen money. Even at 1000s.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 11:40 AM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 5:39AM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


I couldn't back the draw with stolen money. Even at 1000s.


I'm joking DB

Report Darlo Bantam July 31, 2015 11:41 AM BST
Yeah. I know. The wink gave it away.
Report Darlo Bantam July 31, 2015 11:44 AM BST
Draw backers soon given up anyway.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 12:06 PM BST
Cook letting Finn go for the 8 for
Report wit-ham July 31, 2015 12:15 PM BST
how many more before the Aussies can declare?

was thinking 125 be enough espec when England probably be 40-4
Report DStyle July 31, 2015 12:17 PM BST
why has stokes not bowled this morning?
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 12:17 PM BST
eNGLAND ARE GONNA LOSE Crazy
Report DStyle July 31, 2015 12:17 PM BST
sorry - just on now.

no way root should be given the ball before stokes.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 12:18 PM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 6:17AM, DStyle wrote:


sorry - just on now.no way root should be given the ball before stokes.


Plain

Report wit-ham July 31, 2015 12:18 PM BST
With my luck it's the only way to get things to happen
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 12:18 PM BST
the question is can Root, Moeem and Stokes get the runs?
Report wit-ham July 31, 2015 12:21 PM BST
yep as no one else can
Report wondersobright July 31, 2015 12:22 PM BST
another ball hitting the stumps and not out ffs
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 12:22 PM BST
Stokes's terrible drs last night is costing a fair few runs
Report DStyle July 31, 2015 12:25 PM BST
moeen's getting it fizzing past the tail enders' bat and they aren't picking his variations either are they?
Plain

seriously cook. get him off.
Report attitude adjuster July 31, 2015 12:28 PM BST
how far did england drift this morning before the 8th wicket?
Report wondersobright July 31, 2015 12:30 PM BST
about 1.1
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 12:32 PM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 6:28AM, attitude adjuster wrote:


how far did england drift this morning before the 8th wicket?


1.13

Report attitude adjuster July 31, 2015 12:37 PM BST
thanks lads Happy
Report Mr Eboue July 31, 2015 12:48 PM BST
Be good for the nuetral if England find themselves at 30-3 again.
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 12:49 PM BST
there are no neutrals on this forum!
Report cricketnut2 July 31, 2015 12:50 PM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 6:48AM, Mr Eboue wrote:


Be good for the nuetral if England find themselves at 30-3 again.


It would be more of a surprise, if they didn't find themselves 3 down for 30 or under.

Report Mr Eboue July 31, 2015 12:54 PM BST
Laugh
Report jucel69 July 31, 2015 1:00 PM BST
Eng win easy here 7/8 wickets. 3rd day pitch against a seam attack will be easy for Eng
Report Fangsy July 31, 2015 1:00 PM BST
No Johnson?  Clarke is becoming Engand's biggest asset
Report pxb July 31, 2015 1:06 PM BST
Should have laid Aus for more than I did as the price shortened. Remote chance Eng lose this on a flat day 3 wicket.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 1:21 PM BST
surely Anderson will bat if we need like 5 to win
Report cricketnut2 July 31, 2015 1:24 PM BST
well he shouldn't have to, but this is England.
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 1:50 PM BST
ain't cutting it Cook
Report DixieUK July 31, 2015 1:50 PM BST
gone for seven
should be GONE FOR GOOD
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 1:52 PM BST
he's starting to p*ss me off
Report earlycrow July 31, 2015 1:52 PM BST
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surely Anderson will bat if we need like 5 to win
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Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 1:58 PM BST
stokes in next to knock these runs off pronto...
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 2:01 PM BST
bell can get these boundarys blindfolded..
Report DStyle July 31, 2015 2:07 PM BST
as much as i like mikey, he's in the wrong here.

bell is going all out to kill this chase, particularly before Johnson bowls; to make even the rattle of 3 quick wickets an irrelevance.

it's entirely the right approach.
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 2:21 PM BST
walking back hopefully 4 the last f*cking time 4 eng
Report Clerkmore July 31, 2015 2:23 PM BST
England could collapse like a house of cards at any time.
Report DStyle July 31, 2015 2:23 PM BST
that's the problem when you get out playing loose shots outside your off stump: you're bound to get a genuinely good delivery now and again. really good lh dismissal from hazlewood.
Report sageform July 31, 2015 2:47 PM BST
Every time they have shown a replay of a delivery by Lyon it looks like a no ball to me. He bowls with his toe on the ground and his heel in the air. I thought that some part of the foot had to be grounded behind the crease? I am also wondering if the game would have been any different if Adam Lythe had been sitting on the boundary. He did take one good catch but otherwise complete waste of space.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 2:48 PM BST

Jul 31, 2015 -- 8:47AM, sageform wrote:


Every time they have shown a replay of a delivery by Lyon it looks like a no ball to me. He bowls with his toe on the ground and his heel in the air. I thought that some part of the foot had to be grounded behind the crease? I am also wondering if the game would have been any different if Adam Lythe had been sitting on the boundary. He did take one good catch but otherwise complete waste of space.


foot doesnt have to be on the floor

Report sageform July 31, 2015 2:50 PM BST
OK thanks.
Report sageform July 31, 2015 2:50 PM BST
OK thanks.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 2:50 PM BST
np
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 3:00 PM BST
Stoneman for england..just smashed 3 fours and a six...
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 3:06 PM BST
lol Ben Green whoever he is got 5 wickets for 3 runs against Unicorns.
Report johnnythebull July 31, 2015 3:24 PM BST
think eng have got a bit of a squeak here!
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 3:27 PM BST
WE'LL TAKE THE URN HOME, WE'LL TAKE THE URN HOOOOOOOOOOME, WITH COOK AS OUR CAPTAIN WE'LL TAKE THE URN HOME
Report DixieUK July 31, 2015 3:41 PM BST
get rid of the openers and england have a good side
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 3:50 PM BST
bat for the next 30 overs. Let the fans get there moneys worth
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 3:52 PM BST
Bell deserves to hit winning run.....
Report sonofshinner July 31, 2015 3:53 PM BST
root spoilsport...
Report cricketnut2 July 31, 2015 3:55 PM BST
A drubbing for Australia this time, who knows, what these 2 teams will produce at Trent Bridge.
Report Mike-lfc July 31, 2015 3:58 PM BST
Report RothmanMike July 31, 2015 5:54 PM BST
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"We'll have a 120 or so lead, Aus will get a monster second innings score and only give us a chance of batting out a draw, but we'll do our usual trick and wimp away helplessly to a 150 all out like the spineless bunch they are.

Mark my words".

Now there'a a real shrewdie Plain
Report Try My Best July 31, 2015 7:15 PM BST
Clarke by his comments has himself already selected himself for the next test. As he has said himself we are playing with 10 men at the moment and that's on the generous side. If he wasn't captain his place would be in peril. I for one would drop him he's been that bad. Bad batting, bad captaincy and the one he put down today was horrendous and I'm a great fan of his. Enough is enough and it's a time for a change.
Report JustWinBaby August 1, 2015 6:24 AM BST
MAssive call to drop a captain mid way through an Ashes. It simply won't happen.

After the Ashes however might be a different story.
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