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Don't care how much of a c0ck he is, he's an amazing batsman who should still be playing for England.
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Totally agree Thommos and what an arrogant prick to agree to being miked up when he is batting instead of concentrating on his team. What a ****g ego. Repulsive guy.
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.....agree with OP.......but more importatntly this better not end in a tie
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what drama
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this game deserved an own thread
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....phew ----- got forced to take insurance of the tie - then made more back when I figured it was not out
.Great drama alright |
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ball would have deviated if hit the stumps i think
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What price did the draw trade @
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And Kev does come across as a bit of a Knob
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20 mins ago I was sitting smug awaiting a nice profit.....still got the profit but need a change of trousers and a lie down. Cricket can make mugs of us all...I just got out of jail
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tied game matched at 1,20
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for around 3000 £ i think
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Is this panto?
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a pr1ck, a kn0b, a c0ck, yes. there's no doubt about that.
a c*nt. no. he may be petulant, conceited and selfish and have a poor sense of humour, but he's not a c*nt. i detect no malice; the same can not be said for a man whose parting shot was have someone sacked without reason and manipulate a weak and impressionable managing director into doing so. and as for his being miked up, this format of the game is first and foremost about entertainment and for god's sakes, he's been asked to do it. |
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I'm sure Peter Moores would agree with you 100% about not getting someone sacked...
The game is about entertainment I agree - and every other player who has agreed to be miked up has come across really well without getting involved in an ongoing argument about cricketing ethics. |
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I thought he was entertaining and broke up the inane chatter of the 3, yes 3 'commentators'.
He spoke clearly and eloquently when about to face Pattinson bowling 90mph. He put together a sensible innings with one of the most incredible shots you'll ever see: a switch hit over cover for 6... at the G!!! He riled Gilly and Ponting and put them in their place. He made fun of Canberra which was funny. He's box office. The irony of the Aussies calling him the Big Ego is comedy gold. England needed ego for, oh, about 20 years or so. Since Botham. Along comes KP whose big ego helps to defeat Australia!! |
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Would never dispute his ability with the bat - world class at his best.
Not sure about putting Ponting in his place, Gilchrist maybe. Personally I don't agree with miking up batsmen - fielders no problem and I think some of the chat with the captains and bowlers has been quite interesting. If a batsman gets hit 10 seconds after answering another daft question from the com box, there will be hell on. I wouldn't have done it when I played - but someone muttering "don't get hit, don't get hit" is probably not great viewing anyway! |
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Ex-England batsman Kevin Pietersen says he wants to play against his former team during their tour of Australia.
England play a Prime Minister's XI in Canberra on Wednesday. After hearing Mike Hussey was out injured, Pietersen said "Jeez, I fancy that", and added when asked if he was available: "I'm always available." |
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presumably pissed (given that he's already announced on twitter that he was going out), he has just this very minute tweeted Tony Abbott confirming his availability.
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There is a time and place to air your opinions, Kevin always found the wrong time and place
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Australia sledged him with the 'Big Ego' name. It was a criticism of his personality.
The very same personality that played a key role in England's rise to Number 1 in the World. Hence the irony of their criticism. |
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I think the irony, is that people remember him for helping them rise to number 1, but sack him from the team and they fall to 104 ranking points in tests and ODI, and 99 in T20, and somehow claim that he was bad for their team, and head into a world cup unlikely to win a game and haven't selected him to play.
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love him or hate him, he's destroyed and continues to destroy the ECB in the PR battle.
not that anyone from england hq will be watching the big bash. |
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Criminal that he's not in the England side - think he's coming across well here with punter grilling him.
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very well.
the thing about the egos of Prior, Anderson, Broad and Swann serves as a good reminder about what arrogance actually is: when you confidence and self image are out of kilter with your ability. |
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With very few exceptions from what I have read it appears most Australians like his assessment and the English don't.No surprise there.
The ECB are well versed in "cutting off the nose to spite the face". Oh and I think KP is porking Faulkner ![]() |
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The bravest thing the otherwise gutless ECB have done in years is push Pietersen away from the national side, at his best he was a brilliant hired hand who won tests even series for England, at his worst he was toxic! of late he has delivered only poison.
England can not re-build a team let alone a culture around such a player. The Australian system wouldn't have tolerated a character such as Pietersen even if he was a local, he would have had to tow the line or cool his heels playing in front of 80 people in the Shield. The ECB created the mess, the right thing to do was tidy it up. And just a thought for all those big bash watchers gullible enough to be taken in by Pietersen's 'hale and hearty' media performances, you like so many others before you have been manipulated! if he hangs around for another ten years you'll change your tune. |
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Rubbish. Your opinion is based on the rubbish fed to you. The issue, as was pointed out by KP himself, is that he was a player happy to take the big pays in the Premier Leagues.
The simple fact is he didn't fit in with the clique in the team, who despised him because he was earning the money, and they weren't. At some point, he became captain of the team. Why is that? When he became captain though, he didn't quieten down and play the tight quiet well spoken captain they wanted, he played the arrogant I can take this team to the top attitude. Exactly what England needed, but couldn't handle. Pietersen is the best batsmen England has seen for a long time, and won't again for a long time to come. With the best, always comes arrogance. England tried to tame that, and it cost them becoming a decent team. They had the players that he could have taken to the top, but they chose against, and chose to blame all their problems on him. They tried to tame him, and dictate a slow boring game out of him, which took away everything he was as a player. How are you guys going without him? Seriously? And for the record, he would have easily played for Australia. Australia don't try to tame players. Have a look at Warner. He was a T20 player encouraged to play test cricket. An aggressive, arrogant player who always backed his scoring ability to take games away from the opposition. Australia wouldn't try and tame that, because that is his strength as a player. KP was Englands scapegoat because he wasn't afraid to say what he thought. The fact that he was right, seems to have been lost on most. |
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BJT, I tend not to eat rubbish particularly when it is fed to me, I was merely expressing an opinion....... this is a forum it doesn't need an arbiter of truth.
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And doesn't need media opinion passed off as your own either.
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BJT, F.Y.I I'm not particularly parochial about Cricket, I love the game, and I like to have a bet, I stay out of discussions unless I feel strongly about a topic. It would seem that like me you also feel strongly about this topic, and as a mark of my respect I am not going to tear your arguments apart, however if you continue to demean me as a shallow plagiarist I will unleash the full length, width and breadth of my Cricketing knowledge.
I trust you won't let it come to that. |
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The bravest thing the otherwise gutless ECB have done in years is push Pietersen away from the national side, at his best he was a brilliant hired hand who won tests even series for England, at his worst he was toxic! of late he has delivered only poison.
100% correct shades. BLT, has Warner texted opposition team members and slagged off his captain and told them the best way to get him out ? If Warner had done that the Aussies would have kicked him out forever - England gave him a second chance and what did he do ? Continued behaving like the prize tosspot he is - good riddance and if you lot want to swallow the sh1t he has come out with in the BBL good luck to you - I hope you've found his comments entertaining - he will NEVER play for England again however much he bitches and moans. |
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there's was no doubt he was disruptive, yes toxic sometimes, but the question remains: was he disrupting or poisoning an environment and approach which was preventing england from achieving everything it was capable of?
certainly flower's dogma, and dogma it was, became unstuck during the home series against south africa. and other things played out in that series as well, which makes you question whether bad behaviour was condoned if it came from Flowers' staunchest allies in the dressing room. The loss against Pakistan could just about be written off against Ajmal's chucking, but the South Africa series cruelly exposed the limitations of the conservative and attritional approach which had got england to number 1 against unspectacular opponents. I vividly remember watching Broad bowl to Amla and Kallis at the end of day three at the Oval, and for three balls pulling out the extra cover and bowling full. after being hit for two fours the extra cover went straight back in. this was at 400 odd for 2 in a must win match. Yes suddenly the approach of risking boundaries to get wickets finally seemed to merit a gamble. Only for three balls though, after the horse had well and truly bolted. Likewise the only time england came close to challenging South africa in that series was at Old Trafford and that was predominantly down to Kevin Pietersen batting with a wanton aggression that had he mistimed one early on would have been met no doubt by another stern telling from Gooch. And once again he was asked to bat as "recklessly" again in the 2nd innings to secure england a most unprobable win. All the while, his supposedly close teammates had been leaking bits and bobs to a parody twitter account. He didn't fit into the side, but the question remains was that exclusively his fault? And certainly let's not credit the ECB with getting rid of him; Flower played Downton with embarrassing ease. |
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and rather sadly i suspect Flintoff's involvement with england right now is, in part, a rather crass swideswipe at KP.
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shadesof62
18 Jan 15 12:29 BJT, F.Y.I I'm not particularly parochial about Cricket, I love the game, and I like to have a bet, I stay out of discussions unless I feel strongly about a topic. It would seem that like me you also feel strongly about this topic, and as a mark of my respect I am not going to tear your arguments apart, however if you continue to demean me as a shallow plagiarist I will unleash the full length, width and breadth of my Cricketing knowledge. I trust you won't let it come to that. Dude, Never argue with an idiot. You can't win! Anyone with an opinion is welcomed here. If you have an argument to make don't waste it, share it. Plenty of people love cricket here and even an opposing opinion is useful. My own take on KP now is he is just like Tony bLiar's weapons of mass destruction. Most of us opposed the war, Knew the weapons of mass destruction were in fact tonka toys but once the troops were in we had to get behind them. As much as I would have paid to watch KP bat I think he will never play for England again. I truly believe he is now irrelevant. He was always a gun for hire and we were lucky that his ineterests matched Englands for a long time. I think he may be past his best now. We shall see if he has recovered his knee. I think he was a great professional, trained hard and proably set a great example. I also think he may well have been a bit of an a-hole who needed his head flushing down the toilet but that was not my business. Mine was to watch him bat and I did and he is the best I have ever seen bat for England. Better than Gower, Gooch and Boycott. I saw Cowdrey but not in the 60's! |
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shadesof62 • January 18, 2015 12:29 PM GMT
BJT, F.Y.I I'm not particularly parochial about Cricket, I love the game, and I like to have a bet, I stay out of discussions unless I feel strongly about a topic. It would seem that like me you also feel strongly about this topic, and as a mark of my respect I am not going to tear your arguments apart, however if you continue to demean me as a shallow plagiarist I will unleash the full length, width and breadth of my Cricketing knowledge. I trust you won't let it come to that. Ooooh **** yeah, now we are talking! Give it to him shadesy ![]() ![]() |
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