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trader pj
14 Jul 14 19:18
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Market fixated on this rain over the weekend. Draw probably safest bet of the 3 at this point imo. India winning toss will play into hands of draw as basically they're conservative and able to bat. If Eng win toss things might get more interesting.
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Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:13 PM BST
Have India even taken the new ball yet?!
Report housefull July 21, 2014 2:13 PM BST
easy money
Report housefull July 21, 2014 2:13 PM BST
hi grant
Report jucel69 July 21, 2014 2:13 PM BST
that's why I said to be positive from the start. We had a good chance in those first few hours to get more runs
Report sickoflayinwinners July 21, 2014 2:13 PM BST
I don't think you can blame cook for the batsmans choice of shot
Report Sudoku_Junior July 21, 2014 2:14 PM BST
This has to have been said to them at lunch to play this way. Horrendous from who ever made this call.
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:14 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:13PM, RafterP1 wrote:


Have India even taken the new ball yet?!


Nope

Report GoBallistic July 21, 2014 2:14 PM BST
Why is Stokes batting above 11 ?  Do they think he is due ?

0,5,5,4,0,4,0,0,0,0
Report TerryHurlock July 21, 2014 2:14 PM BST
just bowl the boucer and england crumble...mitchell johnson been on the phone to dhoni
Report Steamship July 21, 2014 2:15 PM BST
This morning was the right way to go
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:15 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:13PM, sickoflayinwinners wrote:


I don't think you can blame cook for the batsmans choice of shot


Agreed but this is not a team, they play like a group of individuals with no game plan. Even when bowling they each do their own thing

Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:15 PM BST
2 left handers and Plunkett left
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:16 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:14PM, cardshark wrote:


Jul 21, 2014 --  2:13PM, RafterP1 wrote:Have India even taken the new ball yet?!Nope


After all the talk and rightly so of the new ball would be funny if India bowled them out without ever using it!

Report GRANTCKING July 21, 2014 2:16 PM BST
Hi houseful, my computers broken using my phone it's terrible SadSadGrin
Report currant bun July 21, 2014 2:16 PM BST
lyth robson ballance bell root ali read plunkett batty finn Anderson for the next test
Report housefull July 21, 2014 2:16 PM BST
ok
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 2:17 PM BST
root does tend to feed off his batting partner, but at least his stand with ali gave us a chance.

prior is the one that makes me REALLY angry. all that experience, and the match situation, time to mentally prepare himself over lunch, a two hour advert from ali and root on what to do, and comes out and plays like a pr1ck, going after everything.

he has to be dropped. injured (and i suspect he's lying about it to the side), weak keeping and doesn't deliver when it matters with the bat. there was no good reason to select him after dropping him over the winter.
Report kingmax July 21, 2014 2:18 PM BST
so do england just block now?
Report currant bun July 21, 2014 2:18 PM BST
he's quite obviously not fit enough to keep and may well be lying, time for chris read
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 2:19 PM BST
Compton
Robson
Ballance
Bell
Root
Ali
Read * +
Kerrigan
Broad
Plunkett
Anderson
Finn
Report Sudoku_Junior July 21, 2014 2:19 PM BST
Imo, this is hoorendous management from moores and co. They have obviously at lunch said to take the short ball on, and ultimately this has cost us a chance of winning the game.
Report currant bun July 21, 2014 2:20 PM BST
we agreed on 9, not bad!
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:21 PM BST
Time - in fact well over time to flush things out. New capt, Cook out completely, drop Prior, bring in two spinners to alternate until you find which one will be the most consistent.
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 2:21 PM BST
well i did pick 12 Laugh
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:21 PM BST
Since when do India win Test matches away from the sub continent? England must be really crap.
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:22 PM BST
time for the new ball
Report kingmax July 21, 2014 2:24 PM BST
can believe what iv seen the last 30 mins... all 3 should never play for england again.
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 2:24 PM BST
apologies for repeating myself, but even if we'd shown some fight in Australia last winter, we probably would have lost the series. We were outbowled and the convicts had way more hunger.

but the loss against sri lanka and the impending loss here are two matches which we should have won and have managed to underperform so badly as to lose them.
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:25 PM BST
i need air conditioning.
Report Steamship July 21, 2014 2:25 PM BST
Nothing wrong with Root he just panicked as it was all on his shoulders then.
Report jucel69 July 21, 2014 2:25 PM BST
massive lay at 1.08. Hopefully pick up what I lost earlier messing about!
Report Kelly July 21, 2014 2:26 PM BST
The modern batsmen would do well to have a look at Bradmans batting . He seldom hit sixes , which is what a few have tried to do in the last 30 minutes .  Most of his scores he got as the result of hitting the ball low or into the ground , fielders  in the deep rarely got a chance to dismiss him like happened to Prior and Root and Stokes  , all caught , hari kari !
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:30 PM BST
come on Dhoni - get the new ball and bowl some line and length - I need this over before 250 !
Report kingmax July 21, 2014 2:31 PM BST
broad trying to get out here. no interested
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:31 PM BST
BOOM !
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST
IMPLOSION !!
Report kingmax July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:31PM, kingmax wrote:


broad trying to get out here. no interested


told ya... walked off

Report GoBallistic July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST
Probably the worst shot yet
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST
Typical Eng batting collapse
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST
don't even think he hit it !
Report GRANTCKING July 21, 2014 2:32 PM BST
May aswell just shake hands now, just wasting time now!!
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:34 PM BST
Anderson getting bowled by Jadeja would be the perfect end !
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 2:35 PM BST
The buck stops at the captain for the inept batting, if it was the strategy, then just ridiculous, if Cook did not discuss tactics with the players then equally as bad Shocked
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 2:35 PM BST
India nearly there, so happy when they got their kicks from Root 66 (i'm not embarrassed to type stuff like that Laugh ).

Prior and Cook would be the 2 I would axe (Buttler and Morgan for me).

Ravi Shastri, Sky Sports The Verdict "This would be India's finest away win outside Asia for 30 years. They were put in on a green top, and they survived that even though only 2 players had previous experience of England. It would be a great achievement".
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:37 PM BST
plumb !
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:37 PM BST
Look at the dirt of those windows! Sack the polish cleaner
Report TerryHurlock July 21, 2014 2:38 PM BST
tin hat for jimmy
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:38 PM BST
Looking out a dirty old window /
Down below the cars in the city go rushing by /
I sit here alone and I wonder why
Report uncle nasty July 21, 2014 2:40 PM BST
what the f was broad doing? crapped himself
Report jucel69 July 21, 2014 2:40 PM BST
Sharma 7 wickets. Hand your heads in shame England!
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:40 PM BST
i layed india at 1.02, want to green at 1.1.

india will ease off now for a few overs as they will think this game is done and dusted. might give england a chance to sneak a few runs, less than 100 needed for the win.
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:40 PM BST
sharma is a muppet how did he take 7 wickets. england must be really crap.
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:41 PM BST
Three English people pleased with this result - Ian Bell ( get's promotion ), Cook's wife ( will get to spend more time with her husband, and me !!
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:41 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:41PM, cardshark wrote:


Three English people pleased with this result - Ian Bell ( get's promotion ), Cook's wife ( will get to spend more time with her husband, and me !!


Don't forget Kevin Pieterson... oh wait Confused

Report TheBear July 21, 2014 2:42 PM BST
Warne defintely doesnt think less is more when commentating - finding him abit of a bore these days
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:42 PM BST
come on u english mugs get a few runs.
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:43 PM BST
97 needed, get to about 70 needed then i will green up.
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:43 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:42PM, TheBear wrote:


Warne defintely doesnt think less is more when commentating - finding him abit of a bore these days


Warne has the perfect job for an Aussie - get's paid big bucks to slag off the England team !

Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:43 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:42PM, TheBear wrote:


Warne defintely doesnt think less is more when commentating - finding him abit of a bore these days


he's turned into a proper perv since Liz Hurley dumped him.. everytime he see's a pretty girl in the crowd there's some pervy comment or other

Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 2:43 PM BST
Happy
Report jucel69 July 21, 2014 2:44 PM BST
michael vaughan is apoplectic!
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
furrrrrrrrrrrrrrrck
Report RafterP1 July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
ExcitedLaugh That just about sums them up!
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
run out lol - BOOm - cleaned up - trio of results. happy days - keep the faith !!
Report YOMOMMA July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
england r crap.
Report Dragon32 July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
Sums England up.
Shambles.
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 2:46 PM BST
Jadeja involved in Anderson's dismissal, it was meant to be.
Well done India, well done forum winners.
Report Only-the-Brave July 21, 2014 2:47 PM BST
Never in doubt - get in!
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:47 PM BST
Though Jadeja might run across Jimmys fingers to rub things in !
Report penbud July 21, 2014 2:47 PM BST
6 wickets in about hourShocked
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:48 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 2:47PM, King of Dubai wrote:


Can't wait for tonight's Verdict


Bob's gonna love those hoikes !

Report cardshark July 21, 2014 2:48 PM BST
I really do believe Cook will trun it in now
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 2:49 PM BST
Prior reminds me of a footballer who's scared to get dropped because the replacement might play well and he can't get back in.
Prior has a dodgy right achilles tendon and a dodgy right heel. Can't continue surely.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 2:50 PM BST
great trading game, however many aspects of English cricket is a shambles, well done India they thoroughly deserved the victory,
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 2:50 PM BST
England no win in 10 tests - worst run for many years. Formula for a sacking.
Report pxb July 21, 2014 2:54 PM BST
More than a handy win for me.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 2:58 PM BST
I share my profits with betfair Cool
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 3:04 PM BST
Prior being sacrificed on live telly there.
Report TerryHurlock July 21, 2014 3:04 PM BST
tough questions from athers
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 3:06 PM BST
have some dignity and let it go cook.

you are going to get sacked if you don't resign, the only way you can come out of this looking good is to recognise that you're not the man for the job.
Report sageform July 21, 2014 3:11 PM BST
The frustrating thing is that every player in the team apart from Cook had produced a really good batting performance in the last 12 months. The problem is that they usually produce a really awful one next innings.
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 3:21 PM BST
Can't believe it Cook still not jumping - he's now becoming selfish because he knows that someone else would be scoring more runs !
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 3:22 PM BST
who would be the best choice other than cook?
Report stickon July 21, 2014 3:24 PM BST
Very pleasing result money wise but as a proud Englishman, we were shameful.

Congratulations India
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 3:24 PM BST
I don't think there is too much choice - probably Bell until Root has a bit more experience but Root is surely the long term option. In terms of batters just about anyone else would do better. I thought Compton was hard done by.
Report stickon July 21, 2014 3:28 PM BST
Just had a quick look,and unless Im mistaken, after this series weve got no away test series this winter, then just two tests at home to New Zealand before the start of the next Ashes.

Could you imagine playing the Aussies with this mob at the moment!!
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 3:29 PM BST
Peter Moores just spewing out the same old company line. When will England employ someone who will not only back themselves to bring in new talent but clever enough to realise that talking bollox is just insulting the fans. It's alright saying Cook has to go back and do the work but we have been hearing this for a year or more - It AINT WORKING - CAPISH ?
Report joe39 July 21, 2014 3:31 PM BST
Nothing for Clarke/Johnson and Australia to worry about at the moment (although it's a year away).
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 3:33 PM BST
England have to get rid of Cook and they have to employ a specialist spinner. Everyone can see that but the mug selectors and the coach.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 3:34 PM BST
Nasser was spot on, would England miss Cook as a captain, the answer is no, still play him but let someone else do the job.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 3:36 PM BST
Monty was playing for Essex the other day, maybe he has sorted his stuff out, and yes compton looked reasonally good, what happened to jordan, he batted and bowled really well last test
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 3:46 PM BST
Maybe they should allow Cook to stay on as a batsmean for a couple of tests to see if the release of pressure makes a difference but I wouldn't give him too long. Everyone knows how to get him out, everyone knows how to get Prior out. Root, Moeen and Ballance have been good. Bell has been a tad unlucky, Robson has been good.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 3:57 PM BST
Yes, cook should stay until end off series, Stokes and prior out, jordan and butler in, not sure about broad, maybe jordan straight swap until he sorts his injury out, maybe a bopara call up Grin
Report cardshark July 21, 2014 4:07 PM BST

Jul 21, 2014 -- 3:57PM, PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH wrote:


Yes, cook should stay until end off series, Stokes and prior out, jordan and butler in, not sure about broad, maybe jordan straight swap until he sorts his injury out, maybe a bopara call up


Youknow things must be bad when demands come in for Bopara call up - Grin

Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH July 21, 2014 4:13 PM BST
unfortunately things can not be any worse for English cricket at the moment, so anything goes Cool
Report currant bun July 21, 2014 4:27 PM BST
buttler is not a test class wicketkeeper or anything approaching it.....chris read is your man
Report DStyle July 21, 2014 5:25 PM BST
for captain as well.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2014 5:57 PM BST
oh the wicket maybe flat first up because of the heavy roller.  If India go up then jump on it more I say!

Good night JohnboyHappy
Report posy July 21, 2014 7:05 PM BST
posy 20 Jul 14 21:47 Joined: 18 Oct 03 | Topic/replies: 2,889 | Blogger: posy's blog
In my view the emphasis on c rap cricket ie 20/20 and limited overs has resulted in a host of inadequate batsmen who are incapable of batting defensively. Very little chance of England holding out and avoiding defeat.


Says it all...until we go back to elevating county cricket and stop all this bish bash nonsense little hope for improvement.
Report currant bun July 21, 2014 7:53 PM BST
yep
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