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A few showers around mostly on Saturday, but not enough to worry about IMO. Plenty of cloudy skies though.
Trent Bridge normally a result venue but talk is, the pitch will be no green seamer.
India normally a slow starter in series and do poorly outside the subcontinent. So on the face of it the 1st Test looks to be a slam dunk for Eng.
But India have an experienced captain at the top of his game against the woeful Cook + some very good new batsmen. Pity about Gambir.
IMO will be closer than many expect with the series going 2-1 or 2-2.
Trent Bridge normally a result venue but talk is, the pitch will be no green seamer.
India normally a slow starter in series and do poorly outside the subcontinent. So on the face of it the 1st Test looks to be a slam dunk for Eng.
But India have an experienced captain at the top of his game against the woeful Cook + some very good new batsmen. Pity about Gambir.
IMO will be closer than many expect with the series going 2-1 or 2-2.
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totally agree,Botham,Holding Boycott all see it as well,but it doesnt get onto the pitch with the players.baffles me
I think 225, probably 250 will be enough to be safe.
low and uneven bounce when chasing runs gets you out. Then there is the rough for Jadeja. I cannot see an England win but if I was huge on the draw I would be wearing my brown trousers today.
These TMS boys are getting on my nerves at the moment, gasping nearly every ball!
These TMS boys are getting on my nerves at the moment, gasping nearly every ball!
Jul 13, 2014 -- 5:43AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
I think 225, probably 250 will be enough to be safe.
will they go for it in 1 1/2 sessions?
I'm watching cric info commentary purely cause i can not watch that c... cook sooner he goes out of national shirt the better
Morning Lara!
Max I think they will go for it as long as the pitch is not a minefield but should they lose too many early wickets chasing they will shut up shop but they have to get India out first. They could skittle India. It does happen but they still have to get the runs. Once it goes past 200 it will become difficult for them to chase because Jadega can just bowl fast and low into the rough.
Max I think they will go for it as long as the pitch is not a minefield but should they lose too many early wickets chasing they will shut up shop but they have to get India out first. They could skittle India. It does happen but they still have to get the runs. Once it goes past 200 it will become difficult for them to chase because Jadega can just bowl fast and low into the rough.
India need to get 70 runs at least. 80 overs to go!
Eng on the charge I fancy them to win this. Any change of rain today?
india need to ****g try to score... why are they defending ffs its flat as a pancake
I wouldn't hang yourself yet kingsmax, the record of the late order batting, should insure a no result and the sun is coming out, keep smiling
rain might actually fall during lunch only but no more after that I suggest
After backing Eng at 2.88 on day one and accepting it as a loss but not trading out do I now cut my losses which may feel like a win at 3.2?
Ironic if Binny saves India and gets dropped for Lords! He shouldn't have been selected for this one but maybe Lords he would have been useful. No way Ashwin is not going to come back into the side for next match!
Jadeja quick 40 should be enough to save India's embarassment.
This is all good for the next match as it makes England look good so may be a better lay opportunity for next match!
Jadeja quick 40 should be enough to save India's embarassment.
This is all good for the next match as it makes England look good so may be a better lay opportunity for next match!
Steamship,
I think it is still a tall order for England to win this you may win but I think I would rather have that bet money on Germany . Think about what you could do with the money you might lose. Anything you win is bunce and not in your pocket yet
I think it is still a tall order for England to win this you may win but I think I would rather have that bet money on Germany . Think about what you could do with the money you might lose. Anything you win is bunce and not in your pocket yet
inches!
my God fortunes being won and lost for incidents like this.
my God fortunes being won and lost for incidents like this.
Traded out at 3.9 put it on as the poss run out was taking place +16.70 Eng -72 others
Jul 13, 2014 -- 6:31AM, lara9199 wrote:
rain after lunch
id do disgusting things to have rain
at least you are still in the game! Fight another day.
Don't quite understand these odds, thought Eng would be shorter
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but the pitch is doing something now, they won't survive long
New ball due soon.
Very unpredictable. It call all hapen even an India win but I think it will remain a draw. new ball might bring wickets but will also bring quicker runs and so is a double edged sword. if they are getting reverse they can keeo the new ball in reserve.
Also we have not seen if there is any spin which is another development. All very exciting but unpredictable.
Very unpredictable. It call all hapen even an India win but I think it will remain a draw. new ball might bring wickets but will also bring quicker runs and so is a double edged sword. if they are getting reverse they can keeo the new ball in reserve.
Also we have not seen if there is any spin which is another development. All very exciting but unpredictable.
I shall be interested to see second test odds right now. If this is a draw it will be hard on England bowlers.
I would play Finn at Lords in place of Plunkett even though he has done little wrong. England don't need Stokes and Plunkett
I would play Finn at Lords in place of Plunkett even though he has done little wrong. England don't need Stokes and Plunkett
As long as India can put on a 200+ lead and AT LEAST another hour and a quarter in the field then I think chances of an England win will be virtually none.
what a trading minefield this match has been! how I am still green is beyond me (mostly luck)
Jul 13, 2014 -- 7:00AM, trader pj wrote:
what a trading minefield this match has been! how I am still green is beyond me (mostly luck)
snap
Started 11.15am, lunch 1.15pm, tea 3.55pm, can stop around 5.15pm.
Could be the worst of worlds for England - had the game been dead by now you would have seen where England were coming from had we had an afternoon of Ali and Root (even some joke bowling from Robson or Bell, as disrepectful to the crowd that would have been).
As it is, England will be duty bound to have 1 final go with the new ball (80 overs in), hence more energy spent by the pace bowlers.
Lovely image of the Nottinghamshire clock there (with what appears to be bullet holes underneath).
Could be the worst of worlds for England - had the game been dead by now you would have seen where England were coming from had we had an afternoon of Ali and Root (even some joke bowling from Robson or Bell, as disrepectful to the crowd that would have been).
As it is, England will be duty bound to have 1 final go with the new ball (80 overs in), hence more energy spent by the pace bowlers.
Lovely image of the Nottinghamshire clock there (with what appears to be bullet holes underneath).
I messed this game up. But got lucky and just wasted time and not money.
yes, redding down, good morning for it, how i got red, well everyone nearly caught at some time this test
Jul 13, 2014 -- 7:05AM, 1alph1 wrote:
I messed this game up. But got lucky and just wasted time and not money.
the wasted time.. that's the thing! I have been several hundred up 3 times now and squandered it 3 times.
me too..........2...t20...games eases the pain though, no worries so.
The thin about it is that if Cook had held on after 55 overs India could be on the floor by now. Even now they are only 1 wicket from folding but in truth the momemtum of not getting the 6th wicket after 55 will be the difference
on the other hand if India cleaned the tail sooner, England would be hanging on for draw and the 80/1 ETC India would have got just dessert
poor poor world cup.................
sport has so much attached to it now, nothing comes at face value
sport has so much attached to it now, nothing comes at face value
I have probably spent at least 8 hours watching some pretty boring cricket this game, at one point being 250 up and I have just greened for 35. Not exactly a good hourly rate. Oh well football tonight. Germany will win
been £500+ 4 times down to £30 earlier i dont know why i trade days 345 when i was 500+ after day 2
max, true, i stop half the time and leave well alone, however had huge green India here and wanted that payday
I laid England big on day 3 as I couldn't see any way they could win. The last stand caught me by surprise and I very nearly hit my max loss after those 2 then 3 wickets this morning. I've had to reduce my profit down as a 4th wicket would have meant having to red out for a 25% loss on bank.
It's comfortable now unless India lose the last 4 wickets before three o'clock but pleased with that last half hour from India.
It's comfortable now unless India lose the last 4 wickets before three o'clock but pleased with that last half hour from India.
i had a 680 all green until i layed the draw again yesterday at 1.49. finally gave in about half an hour before close and backed it back at 1.13ish. no idea what it was overnight, i never looked again. bailed out to get 220 all green. wish id waited cos it went back to over 1.5 this morning according to the graph. made a right old mess of it but a profits a profit i suppose.
there have been 2 collapse and 2 mini collapses, so its no surprise that we've all been thrown out of our green positions!
ahhhhh ahhh ahhhhh someday we will find the cities of gold bum ba dum bum
The end I reckon. A draw now for sure. Even if they lose 4 wickets in say 8 overs, still a draw
just made this a fun bet now all minimum green with view to an england collapse or early wickets to trade on india
Jul 13, 2014 -- 8:30AM, betfairchat wrote:
just made this a fun bet now all minimum green with view to an england collapse or early wickets to trade on india
india wont declare at any point
cook will be sh1tting bricks
as soon as i think this game is over it pulls me back in..in the doghouse cos of it
as soon as i think this game is over it pulls me back in..in the doghouse cos of it
i know done it in view of england bowling last 3wkts nxt half hour
'A thrilling finish'........come on down..........atherton
Nothing more to see here, unless MSD declares and throws in Cook for a few overs.
Le Tour will do for me on ITV4 today (and the little football match tonight), good luck all.
Le Tour will do for me on ITV4 today (and the little football match tonight), good luck all.
Could have declared half an hour ago. Open with Jadeja bowling into the rough with a hard ball.
Could have had Eng 20-4 in no time.
Apart from McCullum, I have little time for these captains. There's a test to win and Dhoni would prefer to sit on his hands.
(I'm massive red on India too!!!)
Could have had Eng 20-4 in no time.
Apart from McCullum, I have little time for these captains. There's a test to win and Dhoni would prefer to sit on his hands.
(I'm massive red on India too!!!)
I would not give Captain Co ck a chance to bat again if I were Dhoni. The pressure on him is reduced. Why risk his fast bowlers?. Let **** stew, stand on the balcony look like declaring but don't. Let hese guys bat and keep England in the field as long as possible. There is no advantage to a cheap wicket but plenty to lose if Co ck can play himself into some kind of form. Lords is a good strip.
Headline news! Engaland find 2 new spin bowlers and now strong favourites for the next test.
India bowled 144 overs this match, England bowled 284 overs.
Might be worth bearing that in mind as the series goes on and takes its toll on some.
Might be worth bearing that in mind as the series goes on and takes its toll on some.
disappointing lack of interest, the desire to entertain in test matches is dead
England 14 man squad for Lord's, Simon Kerrigan (the spinner who the Aussies bullied on his first go) is added.
India will murder Kerrigan.
I thought that was shocking from Dhoni and presumambly Fletcher. No wonder they don't win away. A clear opportunity to have 40 overs at England and try to do something special.
Ballance was turning it sharply off the straight. Jadeja could have caused great problems from the rough but of course India's refusal to play Ashwin was baffling.
England's lack of influence over the pitches is laughable. You can't have a pace attack strategy without green grass on your HOME pitches.
This garbage about drainage systems drying out the squares across the country is just an excuse. Easy to keep a square alive with full time groundsmen.
Commercial pressures dictating dead pitches I'm afraid....Lord's will be a batting paradise.
Eng should win this series. Dhoni + Fletcher too timid. We're not much better but should just about prevail.
I thought that was shocking from Dhoni and presumambly Fletcher. No wonder they don't win away. A clear opportunity to have 40 overs at England and try to do something special.
Ballance was turning it sharply off the straight. Jadeja could have caused great problems from the rough but of course India's refusal to play Ashwin was baffling.
England's lack of influence over the pitches is laughable. You can't have a pace attack strategy without green grass on your HOME pitches.
This garbage about drainage systems drying out the squares across the country is just an excuse. Easy to keep a square alive with full time groundsmen.
Commercial pressures dictating dead pitches I'm afraid....Lord's will be a batting paradise.
Eng should win this series. Dhoni + Fletcher too timid. We're not much better but should just about prevail.
Can't possibly see it being 0-0. This was a "bore draw" but the Sri Lanka tests were either last ball draws or penultimate ball results. Bore draws are rare so even some of the exciting matches seemingly destined for draws will produce a result.
Both of these teams can self destruct far too easily for 0-0 to be a viable call for me.
Going to be a long few weeks for the players and there's not much between these sides - I fancy England will be slightly the happier in that I think home advantage will tell in the end.
Going to be a long few weeks for the players and there's not much between these sides - I fancy England will be slightly the happier in that I think home advantage will tell in the end.
Well my initial bet on this match was a lay of England (see second post on this thread). Should have stuck with that and not tinkered 
. Will continue with a lay of England in this series until proven wrong.
. Will continue with a lay of England in this series until proven wrong.
Think it's highly unlikely that this series will be won from behind.
If England win at Lords everything will seem right again and I'd expect them to win by a margin of at least 2 Tests.
If India win - England will be desparately worrying where the next win will come from.
I think England are rightly favourites, but there is some decent value in the series score market for India win scenarios.
If England win at Lords everything will seem right again and I'd expect them to win by a margin of at least 2 Tests.
If India win - England will be desparately worrying where the next win will come from.
I think England are rightly favourites, but there is some decent value in the series score market for India win scenarios.
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