how many to avoid follow on..

Maybe Trevor should captain England as an opening batsman then....

not always. it's 150 runs if the first days play is washed out.

I don't think they should be looking to bat for 2 days as much as to bat positively as opposed to aggressively.  It is a big chance for several batsmen to lay down markers and cement their places for the rest of the tour.  They must have a game plan for their scoring area's and weak areas.  They must also consider how to play each bowler, where to score, how to defend and how to take advantage of the short boundaries and attacking fields. Playing out maidens will be fatal.  Rotating the strike for the easy singles on offer is an obvious starting place.

Keeping the scoreboard moving is important in that the batsmen must keep Harris and Johnson honest.  There is an attritional element to the long game, which, is currently pointless as they will be out of the game altogether should they not show some individual and collective fight.

all good common sense WD, but at odds with your previous post of 11.37 which i feel is closer to the mark

they may have their plans and they may even be right, but they need to bring success otherwise the belief becomes seriously challenged and doubt becomes endemic.

mentally they are very very close to melting down. there is one last opportunity today otherwise this tour is over.

the bowling in the last 40 mins of the first session yesterday was as close to mental bewilderment as i've seen from this side. quite why our best bowler only bowled 3 overs in that session and 7 overs in the day before the 9th wicket stand started, still remains a mystery.

with you supplying the drugs for the party afterwards

What else would you expect them to do Whispering Death ffs

News out of Buckingham Palace, if the boys can win a session this tour they will still be knighted, that's got to take a load off

Hard to argue with that, I would say Cook has the Aussies right where he wants them

England will give a good account of themselves today!

does the aussie betfair do the in play cash out?

As we saw in the Aussie innings play your shots and get full value, no need for England to force the issue, never will they get an easier time of it, play each ball on its merit and stay in as long as you like IMO

i don't believe eng

......well, that's my theory out the window....in 8 ticks in 5 minutes.......mmmm.

......need to get back in and wait in the long grass for later

Result seems less likely than a draw imho.

but risky carberry is black berry his validity is end may be in few over

if run comes then draw droop soon and we make profit soon but england player lost their confidence .

Draw pitch imo

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