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By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 08:53
I am not a mathmetician so I see two scenario's, a couple of early wickets or an Shik attack.  Either way there is a price adjustment.  A steady start by India will just be uninteresting for everybody.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:02
I've seen enough!

Save your money guys!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:04
I was about to apologise to any West Indian friends but that would seem unfairer!
By:
jucel69
When: 14 Nov 13 09:08
yeh, not much money to be made on this game from now on. GSM at tea on the 1st day!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:09
If Sammy doesn't get Best on now he is an idiot
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:09
If Sammy doesn't get Best on now he is an idiot
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:13
This Gabriel is just a big lump old school spear chucker. He is going to get put to the sword by this generation of Indian batters
By:
tyco161
When: 14 Nov 13 09:29
well the option theory is holding... just
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 09:41
was going to say these 3 day pitches are doing nothing for test cricket in India but as we can see it is not the fault of the curator, Dhoni or the Board.  West Indies are very sad. Oh for the days down the Harleyford Road in the 70's!Sad
By:
tyco161
When: 14 Nov 13 09:47
just lay the draw :)At SP that is.
By:
jucel69
When: 14 Nov 13 10:07
draw 26, should be 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 10:31
He looks majestic already I'd say the sporting gods are with him and he will get a hundred!
By:
Only-the-Brave
When: 14 Nov 13 10:46
nice to see pujara going well again as well.  He's the best of the lot when it comes to the new generation in this format imo
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 11:12
I think you may be right, the new Wall!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 11:22
India developing a good side here

Dharwan, Vijay,Pujara, Kohli, Sharnma ( the incredibly talented ), Jadeja ( Khartik ), Dhoni, Aswin, Kumar B, Shami plus a fast bowler away or a spinner at home.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 14 Nov 13 11:51
They've always had batsmen. It's finding seam bowlers for test matches abroad which is the problem.

West Indies test cricket has been on a slump for a long while.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 14 Nov 13 13:42
WD..YES

Backed pre toss to lay at lower if winning the toss.........

And having a litttle stab at run lines

so a free bet to nothing(literallyLaugh)is where i stood.....
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 14 Nov 13 18:23
WI never fail to disappoint me Pecker! The only team to upset me more were NZ when they couldn't bat out till the hurricane came to JamaicaLaugh!  I'da won millions!
By:
pxb
When: 14 Nov 13 23:29
Groundsman said a few days back that this would go the 5th day. Agree very poor by WI.
By:
diavolo000
When: 15 Nov 13 05:10
Doubtful we will see SRT again.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Nov 13 05:47
I think Shillingford bowls with a bent arm.  I call it chucking but maybe it is legal but it shouldn't be.  Further to that I don't think you can bowl a genuine dhoorsa without bending your arm.

I think the head on to the fielder replay was misleading for the catch but on another angle i did think the ball bounced before he caught it.  Whether it bounced off his fingers I don't know.  I think the bowler was unlucky with camera angles but maybe it did bounce.
By:
lanza
When: 15 Nov 13 06:24
when they checked the no ball for that non given wicket i did think to myself... it looked like he was 'chucking' then.

personally thought it was out.   Seems to be phases (or umpires really) as to when they are given out or not.  Nightmare for the sniper. Laugh
By:
DStyle
When: 15 Nov 13 10:17
I agree WD.

You can bowl a dhoorsa with a straight arm but you'll get next to no purchase.

the wrist still comes into play with a conventional off break, it's almost impossible to allow the wrist to do the same with a dhoosra and the elbow has to bend to allow it.
By:
DStyle
When: 15 Nov 13 10:21
great knock from sharma. over 75% of the strike and 63/64 runs in the partnership
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 15 Nov 13 10:54
oh and btw did I tell anybody that I thought Rohit Sharma was incredibly talentedLaugh! kerching, that's another rupee for him!


I bowl a wicked dhoorsa in my hallway but the arm doesn't come over the shoulderLaugh! It is like from the forehead down, spins away. 


I think in the old days it was the straight one but maybe Murali with his weird wrists could actually bowl a genuine dhoorsa ( I am not one of his knockers, he has a genuine bent arm so to speak but much of his spin comes from the bending almost backwards of his wrist imho )

I think what happened was Harbhajan then developed one in his Turbanator days and the rest followed.  I was just shocked at Shillingfords action.  I remember being called a chucker in days of yore was akin to getting a racial slur!
By:
peckerdunne
When: 15 Nov 13 15:33
This is ll news to me.....

WD has a hallway...................Grin
By:
slip5
When: 16 Nov 13 02:17
I hope gayle get 100 plus here and sachin open the batting and he get a 10 not out chasing 20
By:
pxb
When: 16 Nov 13 06:56
Jeez, an hour later and BF still hasn't settled the series markets. Very poor.
By:
DStyle
When: 17 Nov 13 10:29
shillingford and samuels both reported for chucking and to undergo tests.
By:
DStyle
When: 17 Nov 13 10:33
i hadn't realised that both had been suspended and investigated in the past.

umpires should be much much quicker to call no balls / remove bowlers from the attack for players who have been reported in the past.

basically, it's cheating, and they've been found out, and they continue to do it.

i've seen botha slip in his doosra with a massive chuck far too many times after having had it banned and imo he should be removed from the attack if he does it.
By:
Injera
When: 17 Nov 13 11:10
Surprised and pleased to see Shillingford get picked up on this.

When they were checking his front foot for no balls the angle of his bowling arm was embarrassing.

I guess there's a balance between wanting spinners to thrive in the game and allowing illegal actions.

Test cricket needs wickets to fall regularly to make it interesting but too many spinners are using the front of the hand ball to take those wickets.

Swann has said he can't bowl a doosra without chucking it which is of course correct for most bowlers, not just him..
By:
DStyle
When: 17 Nov 13 17:37
i've got no problem with it not being called during a test if it's a first offence with investigations happening after the test has finished.

it's right that an umpire's hunch shouldn't force a bowler to be penalised or removed from an attack, but after it's been identified as a problem umpires should be hyper vigilant.

in particular the third umpire. I'm fast thinking that being a third umpire could be the easiest job in the world. you're only called upon for a few moment every match to do a job you could train a monkey to do, and even then it doesn't seem to matter if you make the right decision or follow the correct protocol.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Nov 13 10:27
Very interesting.  I thought this Test was over but far from it!

I am glad that Shillingford is being investigated.  I didn't see Smauels bowl but it would appear many of us called Shillingford without even looking for it ffs!

If I was a Test batsmen and I got out to a dhoosra I would refer the decision to the third umpire.  That would set the cat amongst the pidgeons!  I wonder what the ruling would be on that...checking the legality of the ball, they check for no balls!
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