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cricnut
05 Aug 13 16:52
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Now that England have retained the Ashes, what will we get, on what should be a seamer friendly. Another England win hopefully.
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Report steview84 August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
GAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
GONE Clean bowled him
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
Just get it done now boys
Report BJT August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
lol
Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
10 wickets in the Match for Stuart Broad
Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
well bowled Broad
Report CorridorofUncertainty August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
2005 all over again. i could not and will not live that through again. I had 25k on eng at 1.03 overnight. the longest morning of my life
Report Rider August 12, 2013 7:15 PM BST
take that !
Report viva el presidente! August 12, 2013 7:16 PM BST
off for light, pocket a few quid from tomorrow's ticket holders NAP
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:16 PM BST
Right Broad had his 10 WI - just bowl spin now for 30 mins and make my day - one bouncer from Broad now and they will be off
Report BJT August 12, 2013 7:17 PM BST
Keep em out until light goes.  Wastes everybodys time coming back.  If the light is good, keep going til its done.
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 7:17 PM BST
yep well done Cook , series won on tossing a coin. Sad
Report Latalomne August 12, 2013 7:18 PM BST
Anderson aside, it's been a superb bowling performance since tea, dodgy lbw decisions or not.
Report CorridorofUncertainty August 12, 2013 7:18 PM BST
bjt - serious point. I run a sports trading company in the uk - are you a pro punter or just a good novice - do you do just cricket?
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:19 PM BST
GET ROOT ON
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:20 PM BST
that's close
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:20 PM BST
Not even Michael Clarke would want to come back tomorrow now
Report Whisperingdeath August 12, 2013 7:21 PM BST
Joe Root,

Breathe again Sharkie!
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:22 PM BST
Id Cook going to crowd the bat at all ever?
Report sewter lives again August 12, 2013 7:22 PM BST
Warne just loves his grapes sour
Report Latalomne August 12, 2013 7:22 PM BST
Give it some air.
Report CorridorofUncertainty August 12, 2013 7:23 PM BST
bjt - if you can give me a personal email and you are as good as you say you are at trading big bash i think we can do business
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:24 PM BST
last over - come on kid !
Report sageform August 12, 2013 7:24 PM BST
Delighted to be proved wrong. Just finish them off.
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:26 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 7:27 PM BST
Umpires shell shocked and devoid of confidence.
Report viva el presidente! August 12, 2013 7:27 PM BST
some pleasingly chaotic scenes in the test match end market.
Report FredRescue August 12, 2013 7:27 PM BST
PRIOR Crazy
Report Only-the-Brave August 12, 2013 7:28 PM BST
prior may as well not have turned up in this series
Report They think it's all over.... August 12, 2013 7:28 PM BST
Prior is no Alan Knott thats for sure.
Report Whisperingdeath August 12, 2013 7:29 PM BST
Sharkie,

may I enquire how much your wager was at 22?
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 7:29 PM BST
just give Broad the light meter and let him call the shots.
Report BobSievier August 12, 2013 7:29 PM BST
"Australia in under 10's defeat shocker" , bet Shane wished he hadn't said that
Report BJT August 12, 2013 7:32 PM BST

Aug 12, 2013 -- 1:23PM, CorridorofUncertainty wrote:


bjt - if you can give me a personal email and you are as good as you say you are at trading big bash i think we can do business


In all fairness, I didn't say I was good.  Nicky did. 
Sent you a PM.

Report steview84 August 12, 2013 7:34 PM BST
right here we go.
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 7:35 PM BST
Strauss now found a niche as sunshine analyst
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:35 PM BST

Aug 12, 2013 -- 1:29PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Sharkie,may I enquire how much your wager was at 22?


I had a tenner at that but more at 8/1 so all it's a wicket is worth about £300 to me so PRAY !

Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:36 PM BST
4444444444 siddle
Report viva el presidente! August 12, 2013 7:36 PM BST
AIUI:

if the sun goes behind a cloud for 30 seconds while a quick's bowling, they have to go off for the day. it could come out again while they were still walking off the field.

that would be quite fitting, I think.
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:37 PM BST
But also backed Jim Furyk at 17/1 so lucks not in at the moment
Report Whisperingdeath August 12, 2013 7:37 PM BST
Good luck Sharkie!Laugh

ffs it's touch and go.  Even people with a ticket for tomorrow want it over tonight so they get a full refund!
Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:37 PM BST
the earth just shook when Bresnan landed on ground
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 7:39 PM BST
Broad now a cult hero.

I might be a consonant out there.
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:39 PM BST
Nobody wants to come back tomorrow - might as well just let Braod hit the wicket
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:40 PM BST
Thanks for the support guys - hope you all did well !!
Report viva el presidente! August 12, 2013 7:41 PM BST
3-0

thanks for coming
Report BJT August 12, 2013 7:41 PM BST
Well played Broad.  The decider to the match without question.

Hope everybody got green...  Laters.
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:41 PM BST
How the new job going Lehman
Report Latalomne August 12, 2013 7:42 PM BST
That's it!  England have won the Ashes!
Report cardshark August 12, 2013 7:42 PM BST
Jimmy did something useful - man of the match !
Report Tattcorner August 12, 2013 7:44 PM BST
What high did England go please in the match?
Report peckerdunne August 12, 2013 7:44 PM BST
Good knocks for Compton and Butler.....
Report West Coast Eagles August 12, 2013 7:45 PM BST
England went as High as 8.80, Australia as low as 1.14
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 7:45 PM BST
there we go , just got to wait for the next test and lay the team that loses toss.DRS test cricket a game of heads n tailsCrazy
Report Tattcorner August 12, 2013 7:45 PM BST
Thankyou
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 7:45 PM BST
Clarke looks devastated.

Class reaction from Aussies though, Siddle and Bird waited out in the middle to shake hands.

Very impressed with Siddle and Ryan Harris in particular, both on and off the field from what I have seen.
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 7:58 PM BST
Get home from my 1st day back at work and boy am I shocked, I had a small break in the afternoon, went in the bookies, Australia were on 109-0, a long hop from swann had just been bowled and struck for 4. My thoughts were well they have 180 to get, but the new ball had not got any wickets and I thought well Australia must win this one, this being a new ball pitch. Got home from work, Aussies all out, unbeleivable and went to my predictions in that Aussies would have to chase anything between 270-320 and the Aussies weren't going to chase down any more than between 220-230, bingo 224 all out.
Report housefull August 12, 2013 8:03 PM BST
wow we all shoked
Report festivalfanatic August 12, 2013 8:06 PM BST
My goodness Oz are dire.
Report housefull August 12, 2013 8:09 PM BST
who was win the toss in this match
Report Ozmugpunter August 12, 2013 8:12 PM BST
Poor Little Davey Warner... your champion innings was all in vain. bwawahahahahahaha...
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 8:13 PM BST
cook again obviously. drs test cricket in england is that simple. not much between the 2 sides ability wise
Report lustrumm August 12, 2013 8:16 PM BST
if you look back at the innings commentary the signs were there. England had stopped the rot and leading up to the 4th wicket the RR was in free fall. All they were missing were the wickets and once they started to tumble after Tea it ended quickly but the key was slowing the RR and building the pressure and even though Australia continued to shorten in hindsight the market mistook steadyness for pressure
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 8:18 PM BST
also the market mistook umpires 'guessing' on a couple of lbws
Report sewter lives again August 12, 2013 8:31 PM BST
Hushwing  I would have slightly more time for your "the toss won it" theory if England had got a big (or any) first innings lead

otherwise not quite sure how you arrive at your conclusion
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2013 8:35 PM BST
Helluva game. Well done England and hard luck Aussies, been a fine series..

Can't wait for the winter reprise.
Report spyker August 12, 2013 8:38 PM BST
Dodgepicker
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any chance they wrap this up tonight ?



Yep, i think they  - a different 'they' of course - will.......
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 8:39 PM BST
so yes aussies wouldve got less the 238 batting first? doubt anybody believes thatCrazy . aussies did really well to give themselves a shot. come back after the toss on the next test and you'll see for yourself.
Report geordie1956 August 12, 2013 8:43 PM BST
Days like today show why test match cricket is the best sport viewing there is - I love most sports but cricket when it produces a proper good test match - forget the one day nonsense - is as good as it gets - obviously it helps when England win but just to watch is superb - bring on the Oval then the winter series - long nights but worthwhile
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 8:49 PM BST
Yes, Aussies did do well and would probably have got more than 238 batting first, however earlier in this thread, I stated that winning teams win and continue to do so, where losing teams lose and do likewise. I have also stated on this thread, that England are a team in slight detoriation and Aussies are a team slowly improving, but the fact is reflected in the score 3-0 and although we have had 1 close match, a 75 run defeat, in a lowish scoring match, is still a biggish margin.
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 8:55 PM BST
and well said Geordie, Test Match Cricket is the best sport, there can possibly be, all this 1 day stuff, is about as exciting, as watching grass grow and nothing can match a Test Match, where over a game, there are generally so many ebbs and flow. I was rivetted to the sofa yesterday, watching the play, which was hardly quick, but it was a  fantastic days cricket. Unfortunatly work meant I couldn't see todays events live, but am looking forward to the highlights on Sky later on. Todays play, must have been even more exciting and intruiging than any other day in this great series
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 8:56 PM BST
first test aussies nearly and were unlucky not to win if u remember? everyone seems to forget about that. so yep aussie win toss aussi wouldve won np.
2nd test ok aussies played poor and england deserve that win . last test only weather cost aussies a win and this test well the toss decided it.

if Aus had won all the toss i'm pretty sure the score be 2-1 in their favour.

i know you'll all scoff n doubt it but i'm telling you batting first in the DRS age on these pitches it the MAIN DECIDING FACTOR when teams are evenly matched
Report ReaseHeath August 12, 2013 9:06 PM BST
^ let's just do the coin flips then, and not bother playing the actual Test Matches.

England 3-1 up with one toss to come.

Let Clarke flip the coin next time, he looks like a bit of a ****.
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 9:12 PM BST
well 5 tests why not have 1 toss and then take it in turns? surely much fairer system ,common sense really
Report inner city sumo August 12, 2013 9:13 PM BST
Didn't Australia win every toss and elect to bat every test against the Indians? Two evenly matched teams clearly, since average old England kept pace with India and Australia are apparently superior to England...
Report Hushwing. August 12, 2013 9:15 PM BST
i said DRS test cricket in this country
Report kingmax August 12, 2013 9:15 PM BST
dont ever go on the arcade. complete con
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 9:31 PM BST
Cricket matches are not won on the toss of a coin Hushwing, it is won by who plays the better cricket over the 5 days. DRS Test Cricket in Australia as well, but the fact is Australia bowl with 2 bowlers, England bowl with 4 and sometimes 5. All your rantings about DRS, the umpires have been very poor in this series and we should go back to having the best umpires, umpiring these games, whether they be English, Australian or from outer Mongolia.
Report geordie1956 August 12, 2013 9:57 PM BST
totally agree with cri**** - the best umpires should umpire the big tests - it isn't difficult to say 2 Englishman & 2 Australians to cover the Ashes series if they are the best umpires - I must admit to being disappointed with the umpires this series, particularly Alim Dar as I do consider him to be one of the best - the problem is that umpiring is very subjective and DRS has changed everything because every decision made (or not given) is contentious and the umpires are under complete scrutiny - not sure what the answer is though because if you relinquish the final authority from an umpire then what are they there for
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 10:02 PM BST
Now having seen the highlights, I can't see what your problem was, with DRS, the Umpires gave or didn't give and DRS shows whether its hitting or not and in every case, the ball was hitting. Perhaps you should teach your beloved Aussie team, how and when to use it. They have been alot worse than England in their use of it, in this series.
Report oddduck August 12, 2013 10:04 PM BST
Broad will take the plaudits and rightly so but Bresnan was excellent today. Absolute jaffer to get warner which started the collaps
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 10:08 PM BST
Well the umpires, certainly got it more right, before DRS, thats for sure, but we definatly need the best umpires for these Ashes games. England are 3-0 up and 6 Tests to go, including the Australian Tests, but please lets have the best umpires. If we get rid of DRS, I think the umpires would get more right, than wrong.
Report inner city sumo August 12, 2013 10:27 PM BST
Let Michael Clarke umpire it. The form they're in they'd still find a way to lose, even if as is apparent they believe they have the much better side.
Report cdog August 12, 2013 11:09 PM BST
Let's not feel guilty about winning a lot of tosses in this series. When Mark Taylor was captain didn't he win 5 out of 6 tosses in 1997 and every single toss in 98/99? That's what I call greedy.
Report cricnut August 12, 2013 11:27 PM BST
Don't feel guilty about winning tosses, the best Cricket team has won this series and if anyone thinks  the results may have been different, well thats up to them, the best side will win the game, whatever happens at the toss, however the teams aren't particularly evenly matched. Take away a freak last wicket partnership, which I'm not and that Test would have been one sided as well and the way Bell has been batting, there was no guarantee Australia, would have bowled England out at Old Trafford, had it not rained, they may have done, but England never stop battling.
Report mafeking August 12, 2013 11:44 PM BST
cdog, alec stewart called heads (or was it tails ?) all 5 times in 1998/99. surely you have vary your call. very poor captaincy

oz lost this yesterday. about as bad a day as you could realistically have on this pitch. even a reasonable performance yesterday and they'd have been chasing sub 200

lords aside england have just won virtually all the key moments in the 3 other tests
Report bobojon August 13, 2013 3:18 AM BST
toss may have been a factor in other games but in this test the pitch didn't deteriate much it was pretty much the same on day 4 as day 3.  Aust lost because they let Bell get away from them yesterday and collapsed today after a good start, not much to do with the toss.

Still feel in Australian conditions it could be a pretty close return series not that this hasn't been close.  Not much between the teams - but Australia need to find 2 extra batters who are test standard which is the current difference in the teams.
Report rob_dylan August 13, 2013 7:27 AM BST
And a spinner
Report the whizz kids August 13, 2013 7:29 AM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6v6fN_jRpU

StExcitedHappySurprisedTongue OutCrazySillyHappyHappyHappyExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedExcitedLoveLoveBlushHappyHappyHappyu Broard  just done the men from down under. he he
Report the whizz kids August 13, 2013 7:31 AM BST
Still so happy i ended up green.
Report the whizz kids August 13, 2013 7:31 AM BST
Still so happy i ended up green.
Report the whizz kids August 13, 2013 7:37 AM BST
Green= long night.
Report donny osmond August 13, 2013 11:13 AM BST
nice and sunny today incase any one wondered ....
Report mafeking August 13, 2013 2:10 PM BST
mentally though i'd say the gap between the teams is still vast. england are a real team of streetfighters who back themselves to get out of almost any situation whereas australia fold all too easily under the slighest pressure. you'd think this result will have damaging consequences for the return series
Report bazzar August 13, 2013 4:49 PM BST
Please can someone tell me the scores of the test match so far?
Report bazzar August 13, 2013 5:16 PM BST
Would someone please answer my question, I am not a cricket fan and have been told by someone that money can be made from betting on cricket
so want to check what he said, thank you in advance.
Report Foinavon August 13, 2013 6:10 PM BST
Bazzar, try this.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/
Report Hushwing. August 13, 2013 6:14 PM BST
3 toss wins to 1 draw due to weather spoilng the toss. i seriously hope the aussies win that last toss because they'll win and u'll all see.
Report bazzar August 13, 2013 6:46 PM BST
Thanks FOINAVON.
Report Foinavon August 17, 2013 11:12 AM BST
Good luck bazzar.
If you do decide to bet on Test Match cricket remember that this is a zero sum market like all the others on Betfair.

Weather forecast looking good for the final Test at the moment.
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