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nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
don't know any bookie where u can get a heavy bet on a 'spot fix' type of market
By:
Injera
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
Misbah played a similar innings in the WC semi final.

He allowed the RRR to get to 8.5+ then plays some shots. Took the PP and did nothing blocking half volleys.

Looked like spot fixing to me. Should be investigated but won't be.
By:
steview84
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
imo its much easier to fix match odds.  somebody staking £10000 on a no ball raises a lot of suspicion.  £100k on match odds would be normality to a lot big hitting punters. 

the lowest pakistan traded was 1.96!!! SAF were 202/6 with a couple of overs to go.
By:
kingmax
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
no more inplay ricket for me guys... takr care
By:
Fallen Angel
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
its not our bookies they are betting with
By:
Only-the-Brave
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
genuinely one of the worst chases you will ever see
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:21
all out mongs .means even if they beat india saturday then they can't qualify
By:
steview84
When: 10 Jun 13 20:22

Jun 10, 2013 -- 8:21PM, Fallen Angel wrote:

its not our bookies they are betting with


it is betfair.  look at the ipl inquiry.  all the bookies used betfair.

By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:22
agreed OTB Cool
By:
Steam
When: 10 Jun 13 20:22
nigel Indian bookies or Paki bookies is what you should look for
By:
Srichaphan or Ancic?
When: 10 Jun 13 20:22
Pakistan players caught fixing. Everyone suspects them. So what's to lose from match fixing.
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:23
never looked like keeping up with the rate
By:
peckerdunne
When: 10 Jun 13 20:23
The flip flop was stoubtly rebuked..
By:
steview84
When: 10 Jun 13 20:23
im sticking with my india WINDIES Slanka pre tournament bets and not wasting another penny on this sh!t.
By:
Injera
When: 10 Jun 13 20:24
To spot fix all the players need to do is manipulate half an hour of play.

It really is that simple.
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:24
if you think its fixed stevie , just back / lay accordingly Cool
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:24
otherwise its just ur book talking
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:25
its a slow pitch , 238 was never gonna be easy chase
By:
Footiefan111
When: 10 Jun 13 20:25
south africa done well with a mediocre bowling attack
By:
nicky27
When: 10 Jun 13 20:25
Goodnight 167 ALL OUT
By:
Steam
When: 10 Jun 13 20:25
End of Agony
By:
steview84
When: 10 Jun 13 20:26
im massively up on cricket in the last few months nicky, since the start of the ipl, and trust my judgement.  i saw an opportunity with the match odds at half way and took it.  an opportunity that anybody who knows cricket would take.  however i've been thwarted by this.  no way to trade as the market wouldn't allow it.

absolutely stinks.
By:
Fallen Angel
When: 10 Jun 13 20:26
@nicky27 personally i think that is the more likely scenario, and the fact that commentators have hyped up the 300 number to such an extent that any chase below that is seen by people as straight forward which it is not
By:
Steam
When: 10 Jun 13 20:31
I agree with Fallen Angel..all the hype about new regulations, short grounds blah blah blah..havent seen anyone scoring properly here and even chasing pathetically
By:
steview84
When: 10 Jun 13 23:28
having reviewed this i've found a number of concerning patterns of betting and the gameplay.  i'm writing to the relevant authorities and will publish all correspondence here.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 Jun 13 08:28
If you've spot-fixed, the best way of taking advantage is via the Match Odds market on here.

Say you've arranged a maiden over. Lay the batting team on here in the Match Odds market before the first ball of the over is bowled. Green out at the end of it.

Much better than betting a brackets market with an illegal Asian bookie, because:
1. It's indirect. You're not inviting suspicion you've directly fixed that particular market.
2. Even if the batsman with whom you've arranged the fix grasses you up and the Indian police start rounding up the usual suspects,, there won't be anybody among the Asian bookies to corroborate the allegation.
3. You're guaranteed to get paid out.
By:
Lix
When: 11 Jun 13 09:00
you talking about T20 here screamers?  you wont get paid much if
you back maiden in an ODI.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 Jun 13 09:27
Depends what you mean by "much". One of the oddities of the Mervyn Westfield case was how little money it took to fix an over - a lousy 6 grand.

Sure, the example I gave of fixing a single maiden would be better suited to a T20 (though it would work just as effectively on here towards the end of a ODI chase, where prices are equally volatile).

But if you're going to block for 20 overs in a ODI, as happened in this match, then I think the Match Odds market here is a perfectly fine medium for taking advantage and covering your tracks.

(As it happens, I don't think that's what happened here; I think it's just a really lousy Pak batting line-up; and anyway, if they were at it, they'd want to give themselves a chance of reaching the semi-final and final, where there'd be further opportunities.)

Christ, it does your head in when you can't trust a sport.Sad
By:
Injera
When: 11 Jun 13 17:37
Later on in an ODI a maiden is pretty crucial, as is the intent shown or not shown during that over.

Misbah took the PP and then blocked the first 3 balls. He took a single off the 4th. The tone was set for the rest of the PP.

Only a few ticks needed for a big profit. With the RRR rising above 8s at that stage, it was clear the chase would fail.
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