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nigelpm1
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Early thoughts....

Not many to be fair as it's not got much history

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/ground/58142.html?class=1;template=results;type=aggregate

2 matches, 1 draw (Just through good innings scores, a bit of bad light one day but no rain)

No chance of rain.

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-INXX0057?cm_ven=cricinfo_UK&cm_cat=grounds&cm_ite=weather&cm_pla=10day

Could be opportunities to lay draw if goes odds on but it looks a pretty flat deck so could finish in a draw.

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By:
scliffor
When: 28 Feb 13 18:26
Not sure the sample is big enough to draw conclusions from. In the game last year Ashwin and Ojha took 18 wickets and NZ lost by an innings just after tea on day 4.

Want to see the pitch before theorising too much, but wouldn't be surprised if it helped the spinners (given India will play 2.5 spinners and Australia at least 2 fewer).
By:
Charkitz
When: 28 Feb 13 20:10
No doubt the Indians will ensure that it's a turning wicket again. Arthur and Clarke will be reluctant to play 2 spinners regardless as it would only show up the lack of quality spin bowlers they have at their disposal.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Feb 13 21:24
has to be prepared to take spin surely? why would they want to play into oz hands?''always do what your opponent doesnt want you to do''
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 16:45
2.58 for the draw??? whats occuring  Surprised
By:
pxb
When: 01 Mar 13 16:55
Hi all,

Draw has shortened from 2.9s to 2.58 over the last 12 hours, all at the expense of India. Seems to be on the assumption pitch will be less spin friendly than Chennai.

Might not be the case.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cricketnext/hyderabad-test-another-rank-turner-for-australia/375866-78.html
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 17:02
it makes no sense for india not to produce a turner, cant understand the market...sjames go 1.9 india and they are 2.5 on here
By:
smithy91
When: 01 Mar 13 17:09
Pxb draw a value lay then and should trade higher?
By:
pxb
When: 01 Mar 13 17:40
Smithy,

Good money made the last year laying the draw. But i was thinking prior to the market move, this might be an old fashioned test that goes to the last day, and draw well under 2, days 2/3.

I think Oz are probably the value here, but then I did in Chennai. I expect a similar game to Chennai, but without a Dhoni double and fewer wickets early.

All in all, lay India, especially if they bat first, then look to back them day 3/4.
By:
Injera
When: 01 Mar 13 17:53
Took them 5 matches this winter but eventually Dhoni got the pitch he wanted.

Virtually impossible for a touring team to win a test on that type of pitch without high quality tweakers.

Looking ahead to the Ashes, our preparation looks perfect. English conditions in NZ, home to NZ in May, then..

Oz on the other hand ought to be preparing for Jimmy and Finn, instead they're trying to negotiate Ashwin's Carrom ball Laugh
By:
smithy91
When: 01 Mar 13 18:04
Cheers pxb great help :)
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 18:20
oz face the prospect of up to 250 overs of searching spin bowling..no way can they keep 20 wickets intact in my humble opinion
By:
pxb
When: 01 Mar 13 18:23
My main concern is Pattinson's fitness. Any indication he isn't fully fit and I'll be backing the draw, rather than laying India. He took half the Indian wickets to fall in the first test.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 18:27
do you not think the draw is way too short at current odds?
By:
pxb
When: 01 Mar 13 19:19
Most Indian wickets are roads for 3 days and this one could be. No pace attack for India. Sharma is hopeless and rumour is Dhoni will play 4 spinners. Australia bat first, not much turn, how many do you think they will make?

When Australia played last in India, only 2 tests, but all first innings scores were over 400. And Zaheer took 12 wickets over the 2 games.

If I recall correctly, the draw went sub 1.4 in both matches.

Which is why I'd like to see India bat first and the Oz quicks take wickets. If Australia bat first, I am faced with backing the draw, and I've been burned in the past doing that.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 19:25
if aus bat first and are lets say.. 100-2at lunch, draw will be slight odds on?
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 13 19:26
conversley of course if aus bat first and lose 3 or 4 wickets before lunch whilst the pitch is benign, the draw will trade above 4.5 imo
By:
nigelpm1
When: 01 Mar 13 23:36
No harm in laying the draw at these prices IMHO
By:
nigel no idea
When: 02 Mar 13 01:09
if aussie win toss must bat first? would not want to back india as aussie best chance to make a decent score as spinners became more effective as the test goes on. i am very tempted to lay india early if aussie bat first.
By:
nigel no idea
When: 02 Mar 13 04:03
so much for the aussie showing faith in their no1 spinner gets dropped for no2 and part timer are they playing for draw
By:
pxb
When: 02 Mar 13 04:23
2 openers gone, 4th over.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 02 Mar 13 04:33
Why are india 2.7 and the draw similar?
By:
logroller
When: 02 Mar 13 04:57
WTF why is the draw so short 47/2 after 12 overs and still layable at 2.70.........have to butter up again i think
By:
pxb
When: 02 Mar 13 05:12
Watto gone. Draw much too short. Factoring a Clarke 100 maybe.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 02 Mar 13 05:14
57/3 and still close to threes?  And theyre scoring quickly.  Does the market know something i dont?  Is it a road in the eyes of all but the aussie batsmen?  No chance of rain from what i can see.  Tempted to top up on the draw lay, if clarke goes surely the dam breaks.
By:
logroller
When: 02 Mar 13 05:28
the market is revolving around clarke.....i suppose the right call
By:
pxb
When: 02 Mar 13 05:40
Ashwin 5.2 overs, 1 run, 1 wicket.

Ominous for Oz and draw backers.
By:
logroller
When: 02 Mar 13 05:47
god help the aussies if clarke goes cheaply
By:
T20man
When: 02 Mar 13 06:31
I dont understand the enthusiasm for a draw here tbh. I think the Aussies are in deep crap.
India already got 4 wickets in the 1st session and I'm guessing that the Aussies wont score
too many in the 2nd innings once the pitch becomes more spin friendly. So I am just about
ruling out the draw. Aussies dont have the bowlers to bowl out India twice. So that just
leaves 1 likely result. INDIA win. I've taken the 1.85 on that. Might top up some more as
the game continues.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 02 Mar 13 06:37
The draw is 1.99 you mug
By:
rob_dylan
When: 02 Mar 13 06:37
India are 1.99 yoi mug
By:
T20man
When: 02 Mar 13 06:42
at least u got it right the 2nd time moron...LOL.
I backed India a while ago...therefore the 1.85.
But as I said, I am topping up.
By:
sonofshinner
When: 02 Mar 13 06:49
ime going to have some of india,especialy 4 wks down.
By:
JustWinBaby
When: 02 Mar 13 08:07
Looks a decent pitch to bat on once in
By:
sonofshinner
When: 02 Mar 13 08:51
soon as i back india aussies pick up.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 02 Mar 13 10:38
Goodness me, not looked at this until now.  Genuinely thought draw > 8.  5 (!!!)  Lay time.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 02 Mar 13 10:39
oh that was lucky timing ;-)
By:
nigelpm1
When: 02 Mar 13 10:41

Mar 2, 2013 -- 6:31AM, T20man wrote:


I dont understand the enthusiasm for a draw here tbh. I think the Aussies are in deep crap.India already got 4 wickets in the 1st session and I'm guessing that the Aussies wont score too many in the 2nd innings once the pitch becomes more spin friendly. So I am just aboutruling out the draw. Aussies dont have the bowlers to bowl out India twice. So that justleaves 1 likely result. INDIA win. I've taken the 1.85 on that. Might top up some more asthe game continues.


Good call.  Might be tempted to take some profit though.  Wicket doing loads.

By:
lanza
When: 02 Mar 13 10:46
LOL. early dec.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 02 Mar 13 10:47
amazing.  love Clarke
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