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nigelpm1
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Early thoughts....

It's not a result wicket :

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/ground/58008.html?class=1;template=results;type=aggregate

30 matches, 11 draws

No chance of rain.

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-INXX0202?cm_ven=cricinfo_UK&cm_cat=grounds&cm_ite=weather&cm_pla=10day

Could be opportunities to lay draw if goes odds on
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Report Blake84 February 23, 2013 6:32 AM GMT
Game switched to viewers choice so they can show a practice match between the Broncos and Warriors in HD.
Report Joel February 23, 2013 6:51 AM GMT
Stupid
Report Blake84 February 23, 2013 7:30 AM GMT
T20 like odds movement after Sachin hits a couple of boundaries.
Report Blake84 February 23, 2013 7:46 AM GMT
Cracking game of NRL. 2-0 after 45.
Report rob_dylan February 23, 2013 8:06 AM GMT
How is tendles looking?  The spreads give him another fifty runs and I am tempted to sell, he was awful v England and I was convinced he was finished and wouldnt buy a run v aus, did I write his obituary too soon?
Report Conch February 23, 2013 8:28 AM GMT
He's looked solid enough and pitch not really doing anything. Aus in need of a spinner I think.
Report Back High Lay Low February 23, 2013 10:22 AM GMT
Sachin should have walked there.
Report JustWinBaby February 23, 2013 12:07 PM GMT
Australia have got the wrong attack for this pitch

Probably not going to have the correct attack for the series either. Lyon doesn't look up to it
Report nigel no idea February 24, 2013 4:40 AM GMT
not much interest in blog here is that because the british are sleeping. if india retain wickets and score slowly the draw must drop. the market must feel the wicket being very tough for aussie in 2nd dig. Any ideas?
Report Conch February 24, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
Pitch looks dead for the quicks but doing plenty for spin.  India obviously have better spinners, ashwin looked difficult enough in the first innings and its doing more now. Expect the draw to go low though a few overs into the third innings
Report Conch February 24, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
Think Clarke should be doing more bowling
Report sonofshinner February 24, 2013 7:18 AM GMT
ime on the draw hope india slow it down a bit and the aussies have their batting boots on.
Report Injera February 24, 2013 7:26 AM GMT
I love how Dhoni often goes up the order to seize control.


I'd like the draw price to come back into Evens but Oz will have to bat very well for that to happen.
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 7:27 AM GMT
Surprised thedraw is still 3s. Ive just backed out of my draw lay at a similar price.  Might wait a bit and then lay again. Wouldnt touch india at these prices, way too short.
Report Clueless1 February 24, 2013 7:27 AM GMT
gone at last
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 10:34 AM GMT
448/8. Draw at 3.0 still which surprises me.
Report hologon February 24, 2013 10:47 AM GMT
be hard for australia to bat out
Report scliffor February 24, 2013 10:49 AM GMT
Interesting game. Starting to look like Australia are going to have to bat for 3.5/4 sessions depending how fast they score. Don't really fancy the Indian attack to bowl them out, but then look at Aus batting and there's only really Clarke of any class. Think it all depends on how Ashwin and Harby (and part time spinners) bowl.

Given how the pitch looks, Aus starting to look a bit tired in the field and the number of left handers in the Aus top order, I'm leaning to India getting over the line.

As usual when test match looks like going the distance expect odds to fluctuate. May top up my draw lay if price goes much lower.
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 10:54 AM GMT
Id rather lay draw when aus have a decent partnership
Report scliffor February 24, 2013 10:57 AM GMT
Forget to say, whatever else happens, this has been a maginificent innings from Dhoni.
Report hologon February 24, 2013 11:03 AM GMT
How many wickets will they lose knocking off the deficit i reckon 3
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 11:06 AM GMT
Eyeing up a double ton.  A shame the double ton market doesnt have more liquidity
Report JustWinBaby February 24, 2013 11:07 AM GMT
Match to be over inside 4 days. Aussie top 6 apart from Clarke clueless against spin
Report JustWinBaby February 24, 2013 11:12 AM GMT
Dhoni has been feasting on pies for much of his inning
Report Injera February 24, 2013 11:24 AM GMT
Magnificent innings.

With such big lead, Dhoni can attack with plenty of men around the bat. Wouldn't be surprised to see Bhaji take wickets and Oz all out for 200 or less.

Pitch looks like a beach but the bounce is good so you can happily stay back.
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 11:43 AM GMT
One thing for sure we can all agree on, it is very sad to see such an impotent aus team, as a lifelong english cricket fan I can honestly say I get no satisfaction at all from watching this rabble get absolutely spanked by a p1ss poor Indian time.  No satisfaction at all.
Report Conch February 24, 2013 11:59 AM GMT
A good chance they'll be different in England though I think, they have a decent set of seamers
Report rob_dylan February 24, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
On paper we are much better, not counting any chickens mind, its a funny game.
Report mafeking February 24, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
have to disagree with you there, rob. certainly haven't got bored with battering oz (and hope i never do). they'll get pummelled in england for sure. can't imagine they've ever brought such an inexperienced side. should win by 2 tests at home. will be harder over there obviously

in a composite XI very few of theirs would get in. clarke, warner and maybe siddle or pattinson instead of broad.
Report sonofshinner February 24, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
surely aussies can take it into the final day.
Report mafeking February 24, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
on their last tour of india a better aussie batting line up than this made 400ish in the first innings of both tests and ended up getting rolled over in the 2nd dig
Report scliffor February 24, 2013 11:47 PM GMT
Agree Mafeking and (book talking) hope you are right. Only worry is who is going to take the wickets for India. May need Bhaji to help out, which didn't look likely in the first innings. Can't see Ishant or Kumar taking many. Maybe Sehwag or Tendles could break a partnership or two. Still can't believe India left Ojha out.
Report JustWinBaby February 25, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
India lead by 192
Report logroller February 25, 2013 5:09 AM GMT
nl  results now .... India / Draw, the betting equation is easy to follow now until stumps
Report logroller February 25, 2013 5:10 AM GMT
ony 2 results now.......
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 5:17 AM GMT
should be a market up, Can Australia avoid an innings defeat?
Report SergeantMarcel February 25, 2013 5:22 AM GMT
If India were using the review system in this series this match would almost be over by now
Report JustWinBaby February 25, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
Ball is turning square, literally
Report JustWinBaby February 25, 2013 5:29 AM GMT
Cowan hits a 4 and the Indian price goes up 4 ticks. wtf
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 6:10 AM GMT
Australia 34/1
Report dylansdad February 25, 2013 7:23 AM GMT
just layed some of my india green @1.38 looking to buy back at +1.70
Report dylansdad February 25, 2013 7:29 AM GMT
bad timingGrin and a bit more @1.21
Report sonofshinner February 25, 2013 7:43 AM GMT
what about moises top bat @4.1
Report lanza February 25, 2013 8:51 AM GMT
gonna need clarke out soon  sonofshinner.  (should have gone already tho)

If you wanna top up @6ish.  Put some up.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 8:57 AM GMT
cant give moises away.  lol. Happy
Report lanza February 25, 2013 9:02 AM GMT
yesssssssssssssssssss  come on moises.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 9:43 AM GMT
come on moises or patty!!!
Report lanza February 25, 2013 9:47 AM GMT
would prefer patty now, tho moises alot better than cowan.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 9:53 AM GMT
Sad

come on moises then, down to you.  9 to go.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 10:03 AM GMT
getting close now.  aus 9 down... moises on 30  needing 3 more.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 10:06 AM GMT
felt sick with that lbw... come on lyon just block a few more
Report lanza February 25, 2013 10:09 AM GMT
Love moises. -phew to close that one.

right get out so i can go to bed please.
Report sonofshinner February 25, 2013 10:20 AM GMT
moises home and hosed.
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 10:22 AM GMT
Am I missing something - TME now out to 1.2 but they have a full 40 mins (+ 30 mins) to get one wicket - the runs won't take long.
Report lanza February 25, 2013 10:23 AM GMT
at one point i had 6.00 up (him +clark in) but i couldnt tempt anyone.

First over after tea, clarke was out and never in doubt from there.  hahaha Cool
Report JustWinBaby February 25, 2013 10:27 AM GMT
Other than weather intervening hard to see any result other than 4-0 for India this series. It's not like Australia has batsmen waiting in the wings that know how to play spin
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 10:57 AM GMT
ouch!  Might not get the 30 mins extension now.
Report trader pj February 25, 2013 11:36 AM GMT
1.02 1.03?
I think NOT!
Report RothmanMike February 25, 2013 11:52 AM GMT
What lead do Australia have to get for price to go EVENS ?
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
Think for Australia to hit evens, these two would have to have around a 175 run lead, with under 40 overs to play.
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
wait
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
Australia would have to have India 6 or 7 down, with around 100 runs to chase
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:34 PM GMT
from what I have seen of the pitch its spitting balls left right and centre, if I was Clarke id just bowl the 2 spinners first up tomorrow, it will be an advantage bowling last, a chase of around 85 runs could be interesting
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:36 PM GMT
I think for the Draw to hit evens , Australia would have to bat at least 60 overs tomorrow, with a lead of around 180 or so
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:36 PM GMT
ive seen funny things happen before
Report RothmanMike February 25, 2013 12:41 PM GMT
85 would be optimistic but Australia wont be scoring slow, so 65 overs to get them surely easy victory for India.
I think a 55 chase would be favourite with me
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:47 PM GMT
yep and ud be about right..............but I wouldn't be sleeping easy if I was an Indian backer, if Aussies somehow managed to get a 100 run lead or so..........definitely not a 1.01 job on this wicket
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:49 PM GMT
18 runs or more= 2.20 (45.45%), 43 runs or more= 4.50 (22.22%), 68 runs or more= 7 (14.28%) based on the odds . Would love it as an Aus backer if they could get their 100 run lead but I know im dreaming.........
Report West Coast Eagles February 25, 2013 12:50 PM GMT
^^^^^^^^ Above market refers to how many runs Australia will score tommorow
Report RothmanMike February 25, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
Nowt wrong with pitch for last hour or so for No.11  Excited
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 1:15 PM GMT
Absolutely no chance of draw - should be 1000/1 unlayable.  Aussies have a tiny chance - probably 1/100 as per market
Report RothmanMike February 25, 2013 1:24 PM GMT
What scenario Aus to win - 1000/1 for me
Report RothmanMike February 25, 2013 1:28 PM GMT
If Aus put on a further 100, surely means easy pitch.
India can do the same, why should it change when they bat.
Simple
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 1:33 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2013 -- 7:28AM, RothmanMike wrote:


If Aus put on a further 100, surely means easy pitch.India can do the same, why should it change when they bat.Simple


tend to agree.  1.02/1.03 looks like a gift I have to say

Report trader pj February 25, 2013 2:13 PM GMT
Any rain around? LOL
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 2:26 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2013 -- 8:13AM, trader pj wrote:


Any rain around? LOL


10% chance of some apparently.  Can't see it being an issue.  Be very surprised if it extends beyond first hour.

Report Lix February 25, 2013 2:49 PM GMT
doesnt rain in chennai at this time of year. draw should be about 300s here.
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
This guy seems to think it's raining :

https://twitter.com/IndianBookie1
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
why on earth are AUS less likely then draw?  What a crazy market.
Report Lix February 25, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
daft. dont listen to that indian bookie guy nigel. he's a known ramper.

draw needs aus to add another 150 runs with 1 wkt left. never happening here.
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
I think he was confused by the mist ;-0)
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 11:23 PM GMT
Even if AUS add another 200 runs (at say 4 an over)

India probably have another 45/50 overs to chase 240 - easily done on this pitch.
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 11:23 PM GMT
The price is beyond belief.
Report Wildone February 25, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
Aus are less likely than the draw for obvious reasons.

If Australia get another 100 then obviously India should get far more unless wicket deterioates like a madman in last 1-2 hours

If Australia gets out early India wins because they will get the runs.

The only way Aust can win is if Aust get a reasonable score and out because they will be worried about India win and play for draw and India capitulate against Aust inferior bowling attack. Odds really remote on that.

The most likely left field is a draw as last two bat out and India can get the runs.

The other thing is overnight India know how to play Aust last 2. They no they need to Contain Moses and try to get Lyon out with their best bolwers eg. Aswin etc... because under this scenario even if Aus hang around they will not get many runs -eg. India win in the end chasing them
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
Well both are highly unlikely.
Report Wildone February 25, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
Aus getting another 200 at 4 an over for Laugh, Odds would be well over 1000/1 for that. Never happened before surely!!! Lyon is a new batsmanLaughCrazy
Report Wildone February 25, 2013 11:29 PM GMT
Rothman Mike on the money IMO
Report Wildone February 25, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
43.runs or more at 4.5????


West Coast Eagles what market is that??? who is offering that??
Report nigelpm1 February 25, 2013 11:36 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2013 -- 5:27PM, Wildone wrote:


Aus getting another 200 at 4 an over for , Odds would be well over 1000/1 for that. Never happened before surely!!! Lyon is a new batsman


Can't be a draw then!

Report Wildone February 26, 2013 2:24 AM GMT
Ha ha, I doubt the batsman are worrying about run rates unless India are chasing a big total!!!Laugh
Report Lix February 26, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
if you think the draw is more likely than an aus win here you shouldnt be betting on cricket. Devil
Report Charkitz February 26, 2013 3:58 AM GMT
Agreed. It's never a good idea to risk more than half your bank on any one market imo but was tempted to do so when draw was sub 100-1.
Report Joel February 26, 2013 5:04 AM GMT
Think Lyon can still have a 9 for here
Report nigelpm1 February 26, 2013 7:32 AM GMT

Feb 25, 2013 -- 9:58PM, Charkitz wrote:


Agreed. It's never a good idea to risk more than half your bank on any one market imo but was tempted to do so when draw was sub 100-1.


Disagree with this.  The Draw was not even close to 100/1.  Lix reckoned 300/1.  I thought 1000/1 - you can still make decent money from 1.01 shots IF they are less unlikely than the intrinsic odds.

Report Charkitz February 26, 2013 7:54 AM GMT
Yes I agree 1.01 shots can still be very good value and profitable long-term if the right approach is taken. I just don't like risking more than half my bank on one market, regardless of value
Report nigelpm1 February 26, 2013 9:31 AM GMT

Feb 26, 2013 -- 1:54AM, Charkitz wrote:


Yes I agree 1.01 shots can still be very good value and profitable long-term if the right approach is taken. I just don't like risking more than half my bank on one market, regardless of value


Fair point RE: bank size.  I tend to limit myself to 20% but will go >20% if it's "too good to miss" - this was one such example.

Report nigelpm1 February 26, 2013 9:42 AM GMT
And to add to this discussion - I think Cricket (particularly test cricket) is one of the better markets out there for 1.0x value - Football is terrible.  Our old friend "Bravado Trader" could a pummelling yesterday.
Report sonofshinner February 26, 2013 9:45 AM GMT
betting suggests it wont be a whitewash,wheres the aussies crumbs coming from.
Report nigelpm1 February 26, 2013 10:06 AM GMT

Feb 26, 2013 -- 3:45AM, sonofshinner wrote:


betting suggests it wont be a whitewash,wheres the aussies crumbs coming from.


Aussies weren't that bad.  They could play out a draw in at least one game.

Report lanza February 26, 2013 10:19 AM GMT
lanza 20 Feb 13 08:34 
thinking bout this match: our old anger therapy thread comes to mind, esp if india bat first. CoolLaugh

how low did the innings defeat go? CoolShockedLaugh
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