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nigelpm1
27 Aug 12 20:33
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As with the previous test a lay of NZ looks like the first bet - even at 15 before a ball is bowled I like it.
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Report DJSteer August 29, 2012 4:40 PM BST
I'll wait til the 1st day to see what they say about the pitch and the weather. Assuming neither pull me in another direction, I'd be tempted to back India or lay the draw from the outset. Almost 1.8 on India looks very generous based on that dire 1st test performance from NZ.
Report DJSteer August 30, 2012 4:36 PM BST
Draw price going down, down, down... weather forecast worsening and pitch reports say this one won't be as spinner friendly. Worth backing the draw/laying India now then reassessing tomorrow.
Report Lix August 30, 2012 5:56 PM BST
all about getting top price on an India win here (as ever)

KIWIS ARE UTTER SH1T
Report fatboy August 30, 2012 5:57 PM BST
last weeks forecast was much worse than this weeks,if you listen to cricket info they say rains over the weekend most of the forecasts  aint got much rain if any sat and 2moro looks pretty ok.to say this pitch wont assist spinners as much as last has no bearing for me as its nz inability to play spin not the state of the pitches they play when did nz last score enough runs  to make a test go the distance.the price has come in so much its like they are gonna lose a whole day at least.they lost half a day last test and india still won witha day spare. 3 for the draw is too low let alone 2.38
Report fatboy August 30, 2012 5:57 PM BST
last weeks forecast was much worse than this weeks,if you listen to cricket info they say rains over the weekend most of the forecasts  aint got much rain if any sat and 2moro looks pretty ok.to say this pitch wont assist spinners as much as last has no bearing for me as its nz inability to play spin not the state of the pitches they play when did nz last score enough runs  to make a test go the distance.the price has come in so much its like they are gonna lose a whole day at least.they lost half a day last test and india still won witha day spare. 3 for the draw is too low let alone 2.38
Report Lix August 30, 2012 6:10 PM BST
Bangalore not known for big spin but then neither was Hyderabad and look how that turned out..

Have said for a while that India may want to  use this series as practice on big turners in anticipation
of the revenge series with england so we could see another turner..  Indian groundsman are pretty good at
preparing surfaces to order. They turned the usually spin friendly Mumbai pitch ultra flat last yr when
Tendulkar was searching for his 100th ton. They could make this one rag square if they want. its
happened before at this ground..

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/engine/match/473326.html

so wait and see for me but expecting India to trade odds against again and win.
Report snap crackle and pop August 30, 2012 11:33 PM BST
Hopefully India will trade at odds against at some point. Then its time to bet like men! Cool
Report mahe August 31, 2012 12:05 AM BST
Lix,

this is simply impressive..hw do u keep track of these things..specially even a wam up match...awesome...

abt this match i think NZ is bit under rated..some of their batsmen has done well In India..
yes they had a bad game..but I expect them to show a fight in B'lore..so lay India for me..
Report manafana August 31, 2012 8:01 AM BST
kiwis playing like they want a win, might be bit to risky, enough runs up just need save their wickets and take the singles when their able.
Report EnvyMyGreen August 31, 2012 8:55 AM BST
i have my full bank on draw hear

weather luks terrible next 4 days
Report jaga August 31, 2012 9:20 AM BST
weather may look terrible but this isnt england, pitches dry up quickly after thunder storms and the sun tends too come out every day, banking on the weather is dangerous.
Report Lix August 31, 2012 9:36 AM BST
no draw here. ball turning already. kiwis the value
Report EnvyMyGreen August 31, 2012 9:47 AM BST
have the kiwis found a match winning spinner then?

(thats not vettori btw)
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 31, 2012 9:49 AM BST
Is this the first time since Edgbaston 2005 that a side has talked about coming out and batting positively after being tonked in the previous game, and actually coming out and doing it?

Will be great if the rest of the Test is like Edgbaston 2005.Happy
Report Lix August 31, 2012 9:52 AM BST
Patel took 4 fer in the 1st inns last week. a decent return no?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 31, 2012 9:58 AM BST
4/100 not really. better than vettori would have done tho. Happy
Report Lix August 31, 2012 10:01 AM BST
4/100 in the 1st innings in india is fkin amazing mate. kiwis got rid of the awful martin too so more tail end runs and hopefully more wkts. if kiwis make the 350+ the spreads say and the rain stays away they are more of a 4/1 shot here. they still wont win tho Silly
Report kingmax August 31, 2012 10:05 AM BST
looks dark?
Report Lix August 31, 2012 10:09 AM BST
open your window max Silly
Report kingmax August 31, 2012 10:10 AM BST
ExcitedLaugh
Report Lix August 31, 2012 10:18 AM BST
no draw here
Report EnvyMyGreen August 31, 2012 10:22 AM BST
just run some quick calcs i estimate 150 overs max left in the game after today based on the weather forecasts
Report EnvyMyGreen August 31, 2012 10:23 AM BST
draw all the way
Report maxstout August 31, 2012 10:26 AM BST
I hope you are right Envy. Like you, I am heavy on the draw - much of it at badly timed low odds
Report jaga August 31, 2012 10:27 AM BST
like i said envy never base your bets on weather forecast, this is india, hardly ever rains all day. i think result here.
Report fairfranco August 31, 2012 10:49 AM BST
this partnership...or Kruger rather is killing my under 325 bet.
Report maxstout August 31, 2012 10:52 AM BST
How long is it untill stumps?
Report kingmax August 31, 2012 11:06 AM BST
under 325 is dead
Report Asparagus Man August 31, 2012 11:13 AM BST
Getting interesting this now.

Whereas the original plan was what was the best price you might get on India, now it is how low will the Kiwis trade before they mess it up?
Report kingmax August 31, 2012 11:16 AM BST
there gonna get 400
Report d13phe August 31, 2012 11:27 AM BST
Kiwis looking decent value but cannot bring myself to back them

the draw is probably going to go very low in this test
Report rohit79 August 31, 2012 1:56 PM BST
If they game starts on time then India worth a back. New Ball and NZ can collapse. Also when India bat Sehwag to hit a couple and the market will shake.

I remember when WI made 550 odd batting 1st, India were 2nd favourites ahead of windies in less than 10 overs.

Cant call the weather so important to see how the day looks before making any trades
Report Steam August 31, 2012 2:14 PM BST
Australia in the last test played here scored over 400 and yet lost it..NZ are no where near that australian side..Markets are about right now...but draw should see 1.3 lows I think..weather looks bad, friends in banglore suggest its raining quite a bit these days so i m backing draw till the first innings is played by both the sides would take it further from there on...NZ a good lay at this price.
Report Lix August 31, 2012 3:41 PM BST
India dont score 500+ much these days chaps.
Report aljohnson August 31, 2012 6:21 PM BST
It looks like India have taken a wicket on the graph!!
Report rohit79 August 31, 2012 8:03 PM BST
Last test scored 440 odd against the Kiwis and the previous test at home scored 500 against windies.

DOnt compare India's home performance Vs Overseas performance. Largest delta in performance home and away in the last year. Can rack up a big score and even if they dont can bowl kiwis out cheaply second dig. For Eg Lost 5-0 in the ODI'ss to ENgland and beat them 5-0 in the ODI's at home.

Weather a huge player. If this was a sure shot 5 day test India would have won 8 out of 10 times but with weather around you need to think through your trades

Will only back India tomorrow morning if no weather around and will try a key trades. Cant have a very large liability on the draw here
Report Mariner Paul August 31, 2012 10:29 PM BST
Market has no confidence in NZ and neither do I. Lay.
Report kingmax September 1, 2012 8:22 AM BST
is it raining..
Report Mariner Paul September 1, 2012 8:42 AM BST
Fine right now but can't help but think that the weather and possible NZ 2nd innings collapse is being factored into the market.
Report Steam September 1, 2012 8:45 AM BST
Nope it is not...and doesnt look it would rain even tomorrow...it is usually raining in the evening..for now result looks a high possibility
Report Steam September 1, 2012 8:49 AM BST
NZ is a good lay...no way they can win this..India would some how scrap through to their total
Report Mariner Paul September 1, 2012 9:21 AM BST
No ball Laugh
Report rohit79 September 1, 2012 9:34 AM BST
An advantage of thi game is it is moving at a rapid pace. Scorecard suggest Day 3 in reality it is half way at Day 2.

Result likely. NZ not a bad 10/1 shot.
Report maxstout September 1, 2012 10:34 AM BST
6 6. That's not 'dot ball' Dhoni, is it?!
Report Steam September 1, 2012 12:09 PM BST
NZ still a good lay..they are not winning this one now..these two have got India out of danger now..all pressure back on NZ and they would crumble now.
Report nigelpm1 September 1, 2012 12:33 PM BST
that was an utterly great display of test cricket from India.  Deep in trouble at 80/4 and close the day 283/5 - only 82 runs behind NZ
Report rohit79 September 2, 2012 5:46 AM BST
New Zealand do have a shot with the balll seaming and will continue to do so in the second innings but India will probably dismiss NZ cheaply in the second dig and scrape through though keeping some of my 10/1 on NZ.

Fantastic test pitch this with the ball seaming, spinning and coming onto the bat to play your shots.
Report Steam September 2, 2012 8:28 AM BST
NZ a good lay..they cant win this one
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:12 AM BST
Hear what you say steam but another century plus partnership between these two will make things more difficult for India
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:16 AM BST
The odds on the draw have fallen dramatically in the last half an hour
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:20 AM BST
No century for Taylor this time!
Report Steam September 2, 2012 9:31 AM BST
Draw a nice punt for now..weather tomorrow looks dicy and I would give at least 2 sessions to rain..which would be enough for market to get them at about 3s..NZ lay as always a safe bet.
Report nigelpm1 September 2, 2012 9:40 AM BST
no chance of draw IMHO - NZ quite likely to be all out by close of play leaving four session for India to chase a low score.
Report nigelpm1 September 2, 2012 9:42 AM BST
that assumes two sessions knocked out by rain as well
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:43 AM BST
Much depends on the various weather forecasts where, for instance, the BBC say that there's rain/thunderstorms likely for today and tomorrow whereas the majority of local forecasters are saying that the likelihood of precipitation is relatively remote.
Report nigelpm1 September 2, 2012 9:44 AM BST
indeed.  I value the BBC/yr.no forecasts for Asia as being pretty poor usually
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:45 AM BST
There's an enormous cloud mass to the west of the country
Report maxstout September 2, 2012 9:49 AM BST
But BBC Weather seem to be saying that it's largely staying put
Report mrSmurf September 2, 2012 11:17 AM BST
what time is play scheduled to finish today? says local time 4.30 but not sure what that equates to in the uk? 1.30?
Report aljohnson September 2, 2012 11:27 AM BST
12 noon scheduled but will play on because they won't get 90 overs in.
Report mrSmurf September 2, 2012 11:34 AM BST
ok so potentially 1pm then. current pair are looking ok so will hold fire with backing india for now
Report tommycockles September 2, 2012 11:38 AM BST
think 12.30 is the cut-off time, any overs not bowled will be lost
Report mrSmurf September 2, 2012 11:42 AM BST
missed the trade
Report Mariner Paul September 2, 2012 11:47 AM BST
Anybody else think that India are low here?
Report d13phe September 2, 2012 11:50 AM BST
i do

if they can somehow get a 300 lead then NZ should win imo
Report mrSmurf September 2, 2012 12:00 PM BST
depends if another wicket falls before the end of play here
Report d13phe September 2, 2012 12:26 PM BST
kiwis might have blown it now
Report d13phe September 3, 2012 8:53 AM BST
speculative lay after the rain break

could disrupt the flow of these 2
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:02 AM BST
very speculative I'd say but a wicket and you'll get 1.1 I guess
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:04 AM BST
NZ have shown they aren't total mugs in this test - looking forward to ENG vs IND - would have thought we'd be favourites
Report cragihol September 3, 2012 9:06 AM BST
any idea how long likely to be am on test match end market
Report d13phe September 3, 2012 9:11 AM BST
no imminent play

still drizzling
Report Mariner Paul September 3, 2012 9:18 AM BST
It can't be too bad given the prices.
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:19 AM BST
1.40: Message from the ground is that it's an annoyingly steady drizzle. Oh well.
Now the rain has relented and the covers are coming off. That's good news.
Over the last few months, I've jinxed matches regularly thanks to the rain. Don't even get me started on Sri Lanka..
Well plenty of you mailing in giving weather updates from various parts of Bangalore. It's baffling that it hasn't rained in certain places near the stadium.
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:48 AM BST
resumes in 3 mins - can play until 12:30pm UK time
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:48 AM BST
Still plenty of rain about but now starts at 10am
Report Mariner Paul September 3, 2012 9:50 AM BST
An uneasy time for 730 draw layer.
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:56 AM BST
still plenty of time left - forecast tomorrow looks fine but laying at 730 with some poor weather about is nuts!
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 9:59 AM BST
any thoughts on the type of people that lay huge like that?
Report Mariner Paul September 3, 2012 10:00 AM BST
Drunk! Grin
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 10:00 AM BST
I mean yes, it's highly unlikely but you'd need brass balls!
Report Mariner Paul September 3, 2012 10:06 AM BST
It's about time that Tenders hung his gloves up.
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 10:06 AM BST
agreed. poor.
Report Lix September 3, 2012 10:10 AM BST
no way will Eng be favs this winter. but fancy us to win a test or two at a nice price.
Report d13phe September 3, 2012 10:26 AM BST
another wicket would make this interesting
Report Lix September 3, 2012 10:27 AM BST
market still doesnt give kiwis a prayer till Dhoni is gone.
Report Lix September 3, 2012 10:47 AM BST
dhoni and kohli still there so no chance of a kiwi win.. CryWhoopsCrazy
Report d13phe September 3, 2012 11:15 AM BST
India win but made a few quid laying the 1.04 earlier
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 11:16 AM BST
yes, good call that - tip my hat to you
Report d13phe September 3, 2012 11:53 AM BST
i reckon NZ would have won this test if they managed to get a lead above 300

a lot harder to chase 300+ physcologically in the last innings
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 12:18 PM BST
No chance - their mistake was not taking advantage at 80/4 in the first innings
Report nicky27 September 3, 2012 2:41 PM BST
anyone know what price India touched when Raina fell at 166 for 5 , still needing 90 odd ?? must have been 1.25ish  i would imagine  ... just 2 T20's left in this series Sad , really enjoyed trading the 2 tests , always plenty of opportunitiesGrin
well done India for 2 test wins and at good in-running prices tooCool
Report Lix September 3, 2012 3:09 PM BST
think 1.33 when Raina fell. really really tough to oppose india chasing until all bats and Dhoni are
gone!
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 3:28 PM BST
touched 1.35 I think.  Got £50 on at 1.31 for fun
Report rohit79 September 3, 2012 4:28 PM BST
Good series. India winning but some silly odds on INdia in both tests with the draw coming in too short.

Plenty to trade in the 2nd test but Lumpers and Leavers making about 175% for 2 weeks work

Was hoping for 1.5 when raina went but got only 1.33. WOnder if DHoni had gone soo India could have lost that one
Report mahe September 3, 2012 10:58 PM BST
did nt follow this test fully..but just curious..hw many overs was lost due to RAIN not bad light ?
Report nigelpm1 September 3, 2012 11:36 PM BST
not many - perhaps 15
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