Wkt just a dot ball.

One big over this is a precession :-(

Y is ccm still holding price surely they don't come off here

Not just the bowling, D/L itself ruins cricket.

Srich - I'm not referring to D/L.  Lancs had a chance until that plonker bowled

I dont think they did. You have 10 wickets available, you hit the boundaries easily. D/L has never taken enough account of wickets in hand.

D/L never seems to set a fair score.
All over completed match to get out unscathed, this better finish

doesn't the target go up if they lose a wicket ?

Or the team batting should have maybe 3 wickets for what is a slog

someone wiped the market out

which is why is it a futile system, devised by two buffoons, one of whom takes exception to any criticism of it.

its all over. luckily for the first time i was on a DL favoring side otherwise usually i ended up on the wrong side and lost it

yea lancashire got a very challenging score of 178 and D/L made a joke of it.

Poor lanky great batting and screwed by this joke dl.

the duckworth lewis method is effective and fair, apart from at these extremes where it evidently requires tweaking.

to call it futile is the sign of a moron.

Yeah, D/L still favours the batting team in really reduced chases.
Lancs were odds on before the rain and when they came back on were 2.7. Needs adjusting when reduced to a slog, more in favour of the bowling side.

a really great way to actually work this stuff out would be to look at the betfair odds across a season to see when it gets out of kilter.

the problem with D/L for T20s for very short run chases is as follows:

top order batsman have a much greater scoring potential than those lower down the order.

this is factored in the resources calculation used by D/L but as the overs remaining gets down to less than 7 or 8 the difference in remaining resource, based on the remaining wickets becomes smaller and smaller and the resource remaining approaches a function solely of overs remaining, especially so when there are less than 7 wickets down.

this is an invalid assumption to make for higher run rates, which is of course happens far more often in t20s than ODIs.

there is a gigantic difference between expecting 5,6,7 to get 11+ an over, and expecting 1,2,3 to get it,  i.e. there has to be a much greater weighting for remaining wickets in calculating remaining resource for T20s when the chase is shorter than 7/8 overs.

short game didnt help lancs

that said reckon in those conditions notts would have fancied chasing 178

d/l not updated for teams to hammer the bal; round nowadays, even in 50 ovs 100 off last 10 is common place. whent the system was devised 70was a good effort.good system but b=needs tweaking for t20 and 50 ovs