**Eng vs Windies 3rd Test - official pre-game chatter**

it's the first time england have conceded 400+ in absolute ages. that's why they win a lot of matches

some clouds hovering around

Lustrumm - Windies won't bowl us out twice but they may have us 30-3 which is why people snapped up the 40s+ on them. The price will contract if that happens.

It's a trading site. People look to call a stage of a game, not always the result.

rain due at 5pm.  Any kind of bet other than on the draw is a waste of money

but agree WI will move in for they get early wickets

This draw price is certainly more attractive than any isa Barclays been offering me

Back the draw or lay WINDIES either way this is the nearest you can get to free money.

3% in a day !!

Mind boggling

yeah.  it's just pure bizarre

didnt know that either mushtaq, re the 150 behind in shortened game, thx

Really bizzare market. Can't remember last time wi took 22 wickets even more so in under 2 days.
This market must think big curtly and Walsh are taking the new ball

also showing how fanciful it was for ENG to win though

BOOOM FKN BOOOM

Free munny @ 3% interest

here we go. 1.05

they need another 19 - ain't going to happen

Was hoping that was out was expecting bigger draw price tho.
Might sit tight hope for another wicket and lob some more on the draw

imagine how ENG would be feeling now if they'd forefeited innings

cause it's cook - been awful this series

That is bollox, nigel.

Before today he'd scored 172 runs in this series at an average of 57.

Really cannot understand this free money nonsense, yes the draw is fairy certain but anyone backing at 1.03 really doesn't comprehend trading and will end up getting severely burnt one day. Who has the greater profit at the moment, the 1.03 backers or layers?

For me this game has been destroyed by rain as a betting propositionso I'm Clydesdale Banking It Up A Storm this afternoon.

But am Very Interested to see how Narine gets on!

it's free money Uncle.  Rain tomorrow, rain after 5pm.

Cook 26 and 79 at Lord's; 24 and 43 not out at Trent Bridge

Massive wicket for the W Indies, however much the free munny gang try to kid themselves.

ok, you're right he's done better than I remembered.

if there was a day and a half of play I'd agree with you guys that it isn't free money

Only an outside chance of any further rain in this Test.

there's not mate.  http://www.meteox.co.uk/forecastloop.aspx?type=1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655603

tomorrow looks horrible, rain expected at 5pm today has gone though.

Meteox is just the raw GFS operational run. They use it because it's free-of-charge. It has no input from even the GFS ensemble runs, never mind human beings.

And the BBC is the Met Office forecast from half a day ago.

You're missing the point Nigel, yes I'm sure you will win on your draw bet, however, to make any meaningful profit you would have to risk(?) several thousands, by laying at 1.03 you have risked a fraction of that and already made your profit by greening out at 1.05. I wish you well, all I am saying is be careful.

FREE MUNNY!!! FREE MUNNY!!!!

And Narine hasn't even got going yet

Point proven.

Anyone tell me what the start/finish time of the afternoon session please

They began at 2pm, and this was scheduled as a 2 and a half hour session.

Whether that's still the case after the first session was extended, I'm not sure. Sorry.

thanks

Ramdin notes

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23ramdinnotes

Lord Gower has written Narine off after one over!

Who's backing England here? I'd like to meet these people in real life.

laying windies is free money. 20/1 is crazy.

Mariner, we have seen Windies lose 10 wickets in a couple of hours before. Not that I would back england!

Fair enough.

Have you seen how much rain is forecast tomorrow? This is certainly a draw now. Day 5 wash out with torrential rain. Pile in.

Deluge for London tomorrow, possible light rain for Birmingham on the northern edge of the system

screaming - that's excatly what I posted earlier from meteox and bbc.  Those sources IMHO are second to none. 

Uncle - I've been on the draw since pre-match so doesn't apply in my case.

slightly irriating to see a similar post three hours later

mariner - remember there'll be plenty of those who laid England off at 4 when the market went nuts - why not take your profit early and stick it on another sport say tennis and Nadal?

FREE MUNNY!!! FREE MUNNY!!!!

And Narine hasn't even got going yetShocked

And the problem with this is you've not considered the weather and the fact they still needed 18 wickets!! Really pointless

Yep. Delighted to see all you free money sheep trading out your 1.03 backs at 1.03 for a free profit of 0% just 3 hours and 3 wickets later.

How is that not "really pointless"?

haha. coming off.  give it a few hours

"free money sheep" - some of your language is appalling

and you can still get 1.02 - nuts

wonder if narine is like dernbach: a bastard to score more than 7 an over off, otherwise rubbish.

Narine not getting any assistance from this pitch.

yep, good in IPL but not at test level

i know it was a bit unfair of me wurzel, particularly after dernbach being so very very crap in the big bash.


but i really think T20 is the worst possible proving ground for a bowler: being difficult to slog is not the same as being a good bowler.

Does England have any indoor grounds? Stupid rain

1.01 still there!

It's his first test nigel - could be a bit premature to write him off - Warne started his test career poorly.

agreed. Very early days

swann got zero out of pitch and didnt look like taking a wicket, narine wasnt amazing but had bell dropped on 20 and will improve, early days

what a shame we didn't get a five day test though - would have been a great contest!  I fear ENG are going to struggle against SA if they don't sort a few things out.

england are should be significantly better than south africa in home conditions in most areas. steyn's a trump card obviously but england are massively superior from 7 to 11 in batting.

Looking forward to Pietersen reaching into his pocket when he gets to 100.

YEH NIK TALK NAH

DStyle     10 Jun 12 17:32 
i know it was a bit unfair of me wurzel, particularly after dernbach being so very very crap in the big bash.


but i really think T20 is the worst possible proving ground for a bowler: being difficult to slog is not the same as being a good bowler.


V. good point. Explains why Ajantha Mendis is the number-2 ranked international T20 bowler.

that's a bit worrying for me than the supposed short ball concerns: he just played around a straight one

*bit more worrying

looks like we'll be treated to Ravi Bopara in all formats v Australia and South Africa this summer then

at the close of play

bell 1.1+ to score 3 more runs?  is the forcast really that bad for tomorrow? 

2k available at 1.2 now.

lanza - yeah I saw that - the forecast is very bad but tempting.

however it's a large block which indicates to me that someone is on the ball - i.e. it's not your usual punter

surely they will get a couple of overs is.  Any other thoughts out there?

it's effectively a bet on whether there's any play tomorrow.  Weather forecasts across the web seem inconclusive - some indicate total washouts others less rain.

Might just get on the phone to my pal at the Met Office

have to confess, i have no idea about the weather tomor just whats been said on the radio and on sky. With a quick look at the met office website everynow and again.

I had some money up at 1.1 hoping someone might have taken it and i could have a happy-ish night.

but then someone put 2k up at 1.2  lol...  Which like you say... doesnt make it seem good for the morning. 

I was thinking tho about laying bell at 1.2 and betting over 325 at 1.2 ish.   hope bell gets out but still have some play to cover you?????   

im
+250kp
+350 bell
+50 anyother

Wanted / was hoping my ton @1.11 bell would have gone.  and i could have stayed in bed.

ideally, i just want 1 session tomor,  bell to get up and england to make 300-349. 

well I just got off the phone - no trade secrets given away but he reckons :

http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Birmingham/hour_by_hour.html

are the best which indicates a wet morning but should be time for a least a session in the afternoon.

its whether they can be bothered with an afternoon session

if rain falls in morning could be called off early afternoon

I think they will.  Unfair on spectators etc..

hmm.. really not looking good this morning and someone's quite happy to hit the >325 runs market at up to 1.5.  Washout I reckon on the cards.

**225 runs**

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DStyle     10 Jun 12 17:32
i know it was a bit unfair of me wurzel, particularly after dernbach being so very very crap in the big bash.


but i really think T20 is the worst possible proving ground for a bowler: being difficult to slog is not the same as being a good bowler.


V. good point. Explains why Ajantha Mendis is the number-2 ranked international T20 bowler.





Yeah agree with all this - Mendis is a possible example of the way Narine's career might go. Just think it is a bit premature to make a judgement based on one match - he's got a lot of ability - can he translate that into being a good test bowler ?

Its currently peeing down in Kettering Northants. Is anybody closer to the ground?

covers on, light drizzle, on SSN

currently dry but overcast-v hopeful might get some cricket this morning.

now raining .... light bit enough not to start

Why don't they just suspend the match odds market?

Wonder how much money Warks have lost in this test.

think they are compensated by the ECB in some way

it's not so much the ticket money for which they have insurance it's beer at 4 quid a throw and food etc which they haven't flogged

shame for warwickshire gonna be a loss making year most likely, similar situation sent glamorgan nearly bankrupt, dont they have to pay the ECB a stack to hold a test venue

looks like half the t20 matches going to be washed out this week as well

Astonishing this wasn't called off at 1pm. If it stopped now (and it won't for 4+ hours) how much play could they get in ?

Last week there was a bit of innovative umpiring when they shortened an innings break in a CB 40 game to ensure a 10 over second innings. What is this all about ? Are they looking at radar images of The Sahara ffs ?

they have to bid for the International games

i am not sure there is any form of protection from the ECB.

i think its just tough luck

they would have lost a stack lad of cash from this.

also haven't got another test match till 2015, so could well be right up sh*t creak

Umps bought 225 runs.

guess warwickshire want to keep todays gate receipts from the 7 poeople that are currently there at ground

congratulations draw backers,been a rocky road last 10 days

Took them 'til 3.10pm to force feed seven pensioners two dozen burgers. Cricket the winner, once again.

simply baffling that the 2nd biggest ground outside lords and the one england probably like playing at best won't have a test against australia next year or india in 2014

With the recent results,the strength of the crowd,and the atmospere they create,the decision to not give them another Ashes Test is nothing short of a disgrace imho. As Vaughan and Flintoff have been quoted,the fans at Edgbaston are our 12th man.

Agreed.  Cricket is a baffling sport at times.  There is so much good about it and it's exciting but fans are treated with contempt and so it seems good venues.