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Ok, i know we'r not even close to IPL game 36 (half way-ish) but having seem some of the other nations creme de la creme t20 players and a few 2nd rate aussies thrown in for good measure (dan christian) 
900k
, haha anybody wanna offer up some early speculation on the next world t20 winners?
For me, i really fancy the windies and really dissapointed with the current offers available on here and with the books. Anyone know if gayle is to be selected? Id imagine he is with the price just having touched 9.00 on here. Was hoping for high teens.
I think if they could get a proper usefull wicky (had this same problem for awhile) or convert someone then they have the making of a very good t20 side. id much rather have a fletcher (red eyed raster lol) than baugh or ramaden? are there any usefull wicky bats in the windies at the mo?
1...gayle
2...bareth
3...darren bravo
4...chanders (floating)
5...dwayne bravo
6...pollard
7...sammy
8...narine
9...bishoo / shillington
10..f edwards
11..k roach
a russell...kev on cooper...edwards... give the gloves to someone?
Alot would depend on gayle ofcourse... but from 1-7 they can all smack it and clear the ropes. Chasing a target would probably be nerve jangling reaching like 170 in 14 overs 9 down or something. lol.
2 out and out fast men,
Narine has looked good in the ipl, better than i thought and for me, has seemingly come from no-where?? Bishoo really impressed bursting onto the scene, gone a little off the boil of late tho, but shillingfood looked a possibly apt replacement
possible other spin in gayle, and overs from sammy / pollard / dwayne bravo.
Has bareth / chanders ever kept?? haha.
Thinking of investing in these but want / waiting for a slightly better price, think the ride will be a good one, maybe / probably a bumpy one but hopefully a winning one / tradeable one.
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Anyone care to do a similar write up of the team they fancy to win it and reasons for their choice.
Regards.....
Lanza.
900k, haha anybody wanna offer up some early speculation on the next world t20 winners?For me, i really fancy the windies and really dissapointed with the current offers available on here and with the books. Anyone know if gayle is to be selected? Id imagine he is with the price just having touched 9.00 on here. Was hoping for high teens.
I think if they could get a proper usefull wicky (had this same problem for awhile) or convert someone then they have the making of a very good t20 side. id much rather have a fletcher (red eyed raster lol) than baugh or ramaden? are there any usefull wicky bats in the windies at the mo?
1...gayle
2...bareth
3...darren bravo
4...chanders (floating)
5...dwayne bravo
6...pollard
7...sammy
8...narine
9...bishoo / shillington
10..f edwards
11..k roach
a russell...kev on cooper...edwards... give the gloves to someone?
Alot would depend on gayle ofcourse... but from 1-7 they can all smack it and clear the ropes. Chasing a target would probably be nerve jangling reaching like 170 in 14 overs 9 down or something. lol.
2 out and out fast men,
Narine has looked good in the ipl, better than i thought and for me, has seemingly come from no-where?? Bishoo really impressed bursting onto the scene, gone a little off the boil of late tho, but shillingfood looked a possibly apt replacement
possible other spin in gayle, and overs from sammy / pollard / dwayne bravo.
Has bareth / chanders ever kept?? haha.
Thinking of investing in these but want / waiting for a slightly better price, think the ride will be a good one, maybe / probably a bumpy one but hopefully a winning one / tradeable one.
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Anyone care to do a similar write up of the team they fancy to win it and reasons for their choice.
Regards.....
Lanza.
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THink everyone's already on at 16s aren't we?
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Russell the 2nd name on the team sheet after Gayle IMO, would play him in Delhi over Taylor, a brilliant allrounder who could do what Afridi did for Pakistan in the T20 World Cups.
WOuld also have Marlon Samuels/Lendl Simmons over Chanders, Chanders not good enough in this form, too slow and he cant increase his SR over 110 which is not good enough. India the early favourites and rightly so, team will be very strong with this possible starting line-up Gambhir, Sehwag, Kohli, Raina, 2 out of Rahane/Rohit Sharma/Uthappa, Dhoni, Bhajji, Ashwin, Zak and Dinda/Ishant rightly favourites Early odds look OK with bangladesh a value bet for a trade, can see them reach the next phase. |
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Missed the 16's
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West Indies 17 £18.00 £288.00
Ref: 18319520734 Bet matched:17:58 18-Mar-12 thats all i got from awhile back. |
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yes...forgot about samuels. lol
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can't see past India myself in the sub-continent. This would be my team, gives deep batting and good variety in bowling:
Sehwag Rahane Gambhir Kohli Raina Dhoni Jadeja Irfan Pathan Ashwin Zaheer Khan Nehra Jadeja's form with the ball's been a bit worrying in the IPL but him and Pathan give very good balance to the side |
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actually forget what I said about Jadeja, his bowling's been very respectable before today
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saffers could put out a decent t20 side imo.
they could probably play two sides that could win if i was a selector i would go: smith faf ab duminy ontong de **** albie botha peterson steyn morkel that would give you lots of power at the top, deep batting, 2 decent quickies, 2 decent spinners. I would also make de **** the keeper and that would allow ontong, ab, duminy and faf (4 of the best fielders in safferland) in the inner ring saving runs and making run outs. unfortunately that aint gonna happen and the playing team is more likely to look like smith levi kallis faf duminy berhardien / ontong / peterson albie / peterson tsosolososkilele botha steyn morkel oh ffs who knows what these mugs will come up with |
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de ****
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de kóck
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Drop Kallis and play VDM and you guys have a genuine chance IMO Rolo.
Good Spinner, dangerous lower order batsman, brilliant fielders and an unbelievable attitude is Van De Merwe My Team would be the follows - FAF, Levi, SMith, AB, JP, Ontong (or Whoever is the 6th best batsman with AB keeping), Albie, VDM, Steyn, Morne and Theron/Thomas or Tsosbe |
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windies look great
my team would be. gayle barath dwayne bravo samuels dwayne bravo pollard russel sammy baugh narine roach |
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Gayle
Dwayne Smith Dwayne Bravo Pollard Samuels Russel Cooper Baugh Narine Roach Bishoo Top 7 all all-rounders...  No place for Sammy  though.. maybe he could learn to keep wkt..?  awesome bench strength with Shillingford, Simmons, Darren Bravo and Rampaul. Who will stop the mighty Maroon machine? |
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I don't see Sammy not being in the team!
he's managed to earn a bit of respect with his performances against Australia now. who'd have thought you'd see a potential West Indies T20 side where they could choose 3 quality spin bowlers! |
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Sammy actually makes the team on Merit. He bowls stump to stump and his battiing has come on leaps and bounds.
LOve the allrounders in the Windies side - Gayle, Simmons, 2 Dwaynes, Samules and Pollard can all bowl. Sammy, Narine, Cooper, Rampaul can all bat. Will be dark horses without Gayle and genuine contenders with him. Pretty sure he will play |
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cause ive got nothing better to do with my time...
WI Gayle Dwayne Smith Samuels Dwayne Bravo Pollard Russell Sammy Cooperman Baugh Narine Roach/Edwards/Rampaul IND Viru GG Vrat Raina Rohit MS Jadeja Irfan Bhaji Ashwin Zak AUS Warner Watson Marsh Mussey Dussey Piglet Wade McKay SOK Hogg Lee/Cummins NB - no bailey :) Pomglomerate Wright KP Shah-baash Morgan Ravi Samit Bedwetter Broad Swann Finn Dernbach SA Levi JK (only due to lack of options really...) Faf AB JP VDM Johannes Albertus Botha Dale Morne Tahir All this lot pretty even IMO - India look the weakest though - bowling just so ordinary whereas all other teams have world class performers Can't be assed doing the other teams - Pak pick themselves, as do SL mostly, whilst the Fruits will have a team of no-names |
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No idea how India and Aus are favs, baffling outright market. It should be clear to anyone who watches any sort of cricket that the strongest 3 sides in the world at international cricket are England Pakistan and SA.
India's bowling attack is woeful, i'm not sure how they plan to defend any score. Australia's attack doesn't look suited to conditions in SL either, i'll be looking to lay these two teams. As i have stated on this forum numerous times bowling attacks win matches and tournaments, the strongest attacks in world cricket are again SA, ENG and Pakistan. Also if you look at records, England, Pakistan and SA all have very good records in this format. Whereas India and Aus both have pretty poor overall records. After taking all that into consideration, Pakistan at 8-1 has got to be the play, the tracks will suit their attack down to the ground, they probably have the best attack for those conditions and they have a great record in the comp, runners up, winners and Losing semi finalist (from 1.01). |
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SA record in T20 WCs is sh1te aint it dougy?
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little englanders chatting reckless about india, ur boys gonna get mashed up easy
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yep lix which is why I haven't backed them although if anyone offers anything bigger than 6-1 i will have to get involved. Pakistan at 8-1 my only play so far. But my main point is, is that the best three teams in world cricket right now are for some bizzare reason not the 3 favs for the comp.
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totally agree there. market is all wrong although you'll still get a decent price on Pak cos rightly or wrongly people still dont fully trust em...
and they've done some 'strange' stuff in SL before..Their test series over there a few yrs ago was almost certainly dodgy but that was in the bad old days of Butt etc.. More recently they played their group games in the WC last year. We saw em concede 100 off 5 overs to NZ which didnt look right and also a very dodgy looking slow start from the openers against a minnow. If the market was fully convinced Pak are 100% clean these days i dont think they would be as big as 8s. They still look a bit short on batting especially some lower order power hitting if Razzaq is FINNISH at international level now The BPL was encouraging from a Pak point of view with Shezhad and Imran Nazir showing they had come on. Nazir a top class fielder too. not sure if he's in their plans though. They may have to recall Kamran Akmal.... His batting is fine in Asia. |
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was slow go v kenya!! lost a few quid there me did.
we'l have to get on a windies / pak final. |
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I can't believe people still consier Kallis in this format.
Sa can't win with him, i will lay SA with all i've got if he plays |
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windies with gayle and narine....mmmnnnnnnnnn
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no kp for england.
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got a really horrible feeling Bopara will open for England at World T20s now KP's missing. Personally the team I'd go with is:
Cook Hales Kieswetter Morgan Davies Stevens Patel Bresnan Broad Swann Dernbach Team looks far worse without KP, can't see any way we can win it now to be honest |
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nice to see gayle back playing for the windies. Some good t20 hitting at the end of the windines v middlesex 50 overs game. Hopefully narine will get a few now.
simmons gayle da bravo d smith pollard bravo ramadin russell sammy rampaul narine having fancied windies asked a few books for a wt20 double... narine and gayle..... no quotes as yet. |
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Im not very active in forums, but cant resist in saying that i havnt seen a better WI side ever to play a T20 event.The only issue with them as all know is thier lacklustre and brainless attitude, but this team has Sammy to lead them who somehow gives a feeling of a decent leader with a right to occupy a place in the team by merit.In opening they have Gayle who needs no intro, with Samuels,Bravo to support in upper middle order and Polard,Russel,Sammy to finish the big hitting.The bowling for a change looks very impressive with Roach-Rampaul to lead the attack and later Nariane to Bamboozle with able support from Sammy and Russel.If WI doesnt win or reach the finals it would be highly surpising .
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with todays game washed out, watching the re-run of the last wt20 final, got me thinking who goes further this time.
for me ...australia will go further than england this time. How would peeps price this up? |
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england are a huge lay for me..
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Eng could be one of the strongest teams there. Must be 50-50 that a compromise is worked out with KP and he plays. Owais Shah would be nice too.
Kies Bopara KP Shah Morgan Patel Buttler Bresnan Swann Broad Finn That is a fkin strong team if you ask me. Better than the one which won last time in the caribbean. I'd like to know how India win this with no good seamers... Ashwin their only reliable bowler imo. THe likes of Jadeja,Pathan,PK,Munaf are gonna get smashed all over the place. |
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If England don't solve the issue of the missing ego then they may well struggle unless they can find a new player that can fill his role. Filling his role isn't that easy though as the whole point is he can intimidate bowlers and a new player can't easily do that even if they are bashing the runs out.
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do you reckon Shah would get a go, a long time since he was last picked?
is Luke Wright not fair game for a crack as opener if they can't resolve the KP issue? At present only 6 players remain from the 2010 world cup winning side plus Anderson if he could get in the squad. |
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Wright the best Eng T20 bat behind KP and Morgs for mine....as long as he opens.
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England are my biggest red at the moment, i was actually looking at the windies price and had ssnews on when it was announced that kp retires, so i laid them at about 8.4ish looking for a trade / overreaction but it hasnt happened..... yet.
For me...take out kp, and not sure shah will even get considered  (tho after the ipl he should) and theres no one there that'l frighten the opps bowling and get some regular high scores.could morgan go up the order? but then the middle order looks bleak. patel seems to always have his place under scrutiny and under pressure and buttler even tho he's a good young kid, we'r all thinking is / when will he start cut the mustard at top level. Bopara for england always seems to be under pressure also and i cant remember a game where he had a really high strike rate. I think they'v all played well for england but from the knocks i can remember they were mostly in support and around a kp innings. bresan / swann / broad / a positive in terms of batting deep but i cant see them going at 9/10 / scoring many against top quality fastmen or spin like narine or ajmal And i worry if like 5 down (no kp / shah) how they might score 50 off the last 5 to set up/ chase a target.At the top of the order (without kp) i dont see anyone that 's gonna bat for 15 overs and be close to a hundred. Windies have gayle, aus have warner / watson, india have sehwag/gg, even nz have jesse? / mucullum, sri lanka have dilsh where youd think theyd all be close to 100. Bops probably be on 30 just infront of kallis. .. i like kies but will he be consistent. After a poor start / powerplays ... i think the middle order will be under too much pressure to catch up and quite ofter collaspe trying to go to far. I dont think theyr bad players, just the other teams will have set a better platform. I also dont see the big finisher /s in the england side, that 'l help score the quick 30 off 15 balls at the end, bit like nz.(oram?) No dhoni / jadeja, no pollard sammy rusell dw bravo..lol / , no afridi?, no morkel, no m-dussey / white even smith/johnson. Not even a no -perera Bowling wise... i think swann will be ok, but the other spinners wont frighten anyone. And if a pitch offers little bounce not sure how the rest of the unit will get on. Again, good players but will conditions suit them? For me, windies whom im on big now, along with pak, sa, aus and india all go further than england. |
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^as do lanka and id love muruli to play the wt20.
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we wont need 30 off 15 at the end. will be restricting sides to under 140 most of the time.
KP will play i reckon. He's too big a star if the form of his life to be sitting this out. The ECB will come to their senses. |
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India as favs is a hilarious joke. Their last two T20 WC performances have been shambolic and they are weaker this time round.
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Guess India could go for Dinda, Aaron and Yadev.
Aaron and Yadev haven't played any T20 international cricket though. Might prove a bit tougher than IPL..  |