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***** Pakistan v England 3rd Test 1st Day *****
***** Pakistan v England 3rd Test 1st Day *****
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england don't play spin well anyway but this wicket is terrible
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Looks like a similar match to the last. A cameo from someone might get us 70 ahead but still may have to chase 150.
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*hopefully this chase will be 100 though..
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someone has made a killing on the draw this series.
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From TomAstleyPhoto: "I wonder how many wickets Shane Warne would have if DRS was available for all his career. Batsmen have nowhere to hide any more."
from the beeb i don't reckon that many because the majority of his lbws pitched outside leg. |
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It's patently absurd the 'experts' in the comm box claim the pitch is a belter. 16 wickets in a day. The ex-test player club need to wake up to modern cricket. They would all be bundled out in similar fashion with DRS.
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Missed the first two sessions so cannot comment on those, from watching England post Pietersen getting out and the way they bog themselves down, have to think that Pak at 2.7 over the England price looks cracking value. England batting last will be haunted by their collapse in the previous test. I expect greater value to come down the line but can't have Pakistan at such a price with respect to England's at this stage.
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need to have a serious rethink about how DRS is employed. it was meant to eradicate howlers not to fire out batsmen lbw every time they miss it. changing the face of test cricket and not for the better.
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^^^Disagree with that, two very good bowling attacks this series and if the batsman misses it, it hits his leg and would have hit the stumps, why shouldn't it be out?
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It's when it's only shown to be clipping that makes it a little farcical esp. on these sort of wickets.
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that's right. at very least under the current system change to the batsman should never be out when's it umpire's call on hitting the stumps. a good portion of the ball must be hitting
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well if the original decision is out and its shown to be clipping I think that's fair enough, perhaps a little unlucky but can't have too many complaints.
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It's hardly a terrible decision if hawkeye has it hitting
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On anything but the flattest of tracks surely you have to play two spinners nowadays? When UDRS is in use, I would play Swann & Monty in every game
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The LBW law was brought in to eradicate negative batting.
It's always been considered an unfortunate type of dismissal in that no catch has been taken or stumps broken. Now LBWs are taking over, at least in this series. Some might say it's great for bowlers to get some payback. Whilst I agree with that up to a point, LBWs merely clipping leg stump on the say so of Hawkeye, doesn't seem to be in the spirit of the game. All good fun though! |
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England currently can not play pakistan spinners fact
 , every ball looked like taking a wicket by the pakistan spinners again, England bowled well 1st up pakistan batted poorly. 200 run lead gonna be like 350 /400 here , wrong favs imo which time will tell  |
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Use your bat and you don't have to worry about lbws
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i've watched dozens of test matches where there hasn't been one decent LBW shout for 2 days at a time. DRS hasn't suddenly created some magic situation where bowlers beat the bat all the time and players miss deliveries that are going on to hit the stumps. The bowlers in this series have bowled exceptionally well, on pitches that have helped them and made batting tough. The ball still has to hit the batsman in line and go on to hit the stumps for the LBW to be given it's not like the umps are making up dismissals.
There's no doubt in my mind that as soon as we get on a flat pitch or even a normal pitch DRS will show us that it just gets decisions right, in test matches where batting is tough and there are lots of good lbw shouts, it will mean lots of batsman get given out LBW. That isn't DRS that is pitch related. |
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yes , looks like a minefield doesnt it
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