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By:
tyco161
When: 10 Jul 13 21:36
Im surprised that the lay draw continue to out perform all other options by such a big margin. Its a winning strategy for sure :) But you would think people would cotton on so to speak... I guess its the psychology of it, covering for an eventual draw etc. At this stage with so many matches these figures are statistically significant as well... wow.
By:
tyco161
When: 10 Jul 13 21:38
p.s keep up the good work crunchyfrog, its appreciated
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 10 Jul 13 23:20
Ah yes, the usual debate about the draw SP. We all know that test matches don't usually end in a draw, but we can't resist a good old "back-to-lay" strategy! Long may it continue Cool Love
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 16 Jul 13 08:23
Match 216: backfav
laydraw +£2160
lay2fav +£149
backfav +£45
laydog +£4
back2fav -£1718
layfav -£1846
backdog -£3885
backdraw -£4449
By:
rob22
When: 16 Jul 13 10:43
Great work you put in to these tables crunchyfrog,much appreciated,good luck.
By:
bitbybit
When: 18 Jul 13 08:30
nice one Crunchy!
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 18 Jul 13 09:02
Match 217: Eng v Aus, 2nd test, Lord's ...
Eng 2.08; draw 3.4 Aus 4.3
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 22 Jul 13 08:47
Match 217: backfav
laydraw +£2201
lay2fav +£190
backfav +£153
laydog +£34
back2fav -£1818
layfav -£1946
backdog -£3985
backdraw -£4549
By:
Fallen Angel
When: 22 Jul 13 11:14
the lay the draw profit just keeps gaining P&L amazing that this edge still hasn't been eroded. Someone will eventually realise the biggest impact of 20/20 cricket has been its impact on the likelyhood of drawn test matches.
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 01 Aug 13 08:58
Match 218: Eng v Aus, 3rd test, Old Trafford ...
Eng 1.9; draw 3.7 Aus 4.8
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 07 Aug 13 08:30
Match 218: backdraw
laydraw +£2101
lay2fav +£90
laydog +£60
backfav +£53
back2fav -£1548
layfav -£1835
backdog -£4085
backdraw -£4279
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 09 Aug 13 08:38
Match 219: Eng v Aus, 4th test, Chester-le-Street ...
Eng 2.14; draw 3.55 Aus 3.9
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 19 Aug 13 13:48
Match 219: backfav
laydraw +£2140
backfav +£167
lay2fav +£129
laydog +£94
back2fav -£1648
layfav -£1935
backdog -£4185
backdraw -£4379
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 21 Aug 13 08:56
Match 220: Eng v Aus, 5th test, The Oval ...
Eng 2.18; draw 3.5 Aus 3.75
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 02 Sep 13 23:26
Match 221: Zim v Pak, 1st test, Harare ...
Zim 18.5; draw 5.2; Pak 1.32
By:
currant bun
When: 03 Sep 13 08:06
thank you crunchyfrog, interesting and useful,as always
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 03 Sep 13 08:42
Match 220: back2fav and backdraw
laydraw +£2040
laydog +£130
backfav +£67
lay2fav +£29
back2fav -£1398
layfav -£1851
backdraw -£4129
backdog -£4285
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 10 Sep 13 00:22
Match 222: Zim v Pak, 2nd test, Harare ...
Zim 9.2; draw 7.2; Pak 1.32
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 10 Sep 13 08:46
Match 221: backfav
laydraw +£2063
laydog +£135
backfav +£99
lay2fav +£52
back2fav -£1498
layfav -£1951
backdraw -£4229
backdog -£4385
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 15 Sep 13 14:14
Match 222: backdog
laydraw +£2079
lay2fav +£68
laydog +£35
backfav -£1
back2fav -£1598
layfav -£1639
backdog -£3565
backdraw -£4329
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 08 Oct 13 23:26
Match 223: Ban v NZ, 1st test, Chittagong ...
Ban 7; draw 1.98; NZ 2.82
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 13 Oct 13 21:21
Match 224: Pak v SA, 1st test, Abu Dhabi ...
Pak 5.4; draw 2.72; SA 2.22
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 14 Oct 13 13:50
Match 223: backfav
laydraw +£1979
lay2fav +£122
backfav +£97
laydog +£51
back2fav -£1698
layfav -£1739
backdog -£3665
backdraw -£4231
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 17 Oct 13 14:00
Match 224: backdog
laydraw +£2037
lay2fav +£180
backfav -£3
laydog -£49
layfav -£1658
back2fav -£1798
backdog -£3225
backdraw -£4331
By:
nicky27
When: 17 Oct 13 16:47
well done for your continued efforts and studious work Crunchy ,I'm grateful for your excellent insight and analysis , I hope u been laying the draw over the years Grin
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 21 Oct 13 00:31
Match 225: Ban v NZ, 2nd test, Dhaka ...
Ban 5.5; draw 1.8; NZ 3.65
By:
ada
When: 22 Oct 13 00:15
So is just Laying draw best or Back to Lay Draw?
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 22 Oct 13 19:44
These figures are simply for bets before the start of the match. Back-to-lay in running can obviously be profitable, but it is dificult to quantify as easily!
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Oct 13 20:57
Hey cruncyfrog.. firstly thank you for your analysis on this phenomena. I am too laying the draw as a profitable strategy. But I have wondered (just do not have the time to do the research) if "laying the draw at the start of the 2nd day" may not be more profitable than laying the draw before the match begins. Do you have any anecdotal evidence to support this view? Regards.
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 22 Oct 13 22:41
Nope, I have no record of test match odds at the start of the second day. Sounds like an interesting strategy though! Mischief
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 22 Oct 13 23:27
Match 226: Pak v SA; 2nd test, Dubai ...
Pak 3.8; draw 3.25; SA 2.28
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 25 Oct 13 14:51
Match 225: backfav
laydraw +£1937
lay2fav +£217
backfav +£77
laydog -£27
layfav -£1758
back2fav -£1898
backdog -£3325
backdraw -£4251
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 28 Oct 13 14:44
Match 226: backfav
laydraw +£1981
lay2fav +£261
backfav +£205
laydog +£8
layfav -£1858
back2fav -£1998
backdog -£3425
backdraw -£4351
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 06 Nov 13 00:17
Match 227: Ind v WI; 1st test, Kolkata ...
Ind 1.83; draw 2.92; WI 8.8
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 08 Nov 13 13:48
Match 227: backfav
laydraw +£2033
lay2fav +£313
backfav +£288
laydog +£20
layfav -£1958
back2fav -£2098
backdog -£3525
backdraw -£4451
By:
Justinius.
When: 12 Nov 13 19:00
I notice the draw lay section (the overriding winner here) is calculated without commission being subtracted. Any idea what the figures would be with this considered? Could be devastating to the p+l if using 5% as a nominal figure?
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 12 Nov 13 20:07
Indeed, laydraw(-5% commission) = +£1639.75 Sad
By:
Justinius.
When: 13 Nov 13 22:31
Thanks crunchy - a smaller proportion of the total than I thought it may be actually. The other greens must be well into the red after commission I'd guess.
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 14 Nov 13 00:36
Match 228: Ind v WI; 2nd test, Mumbai ...
Ind 1.53; draw 3.75; WI 11.5
By:
crunchyfrog
When: 18 Nov 13 08:50
Match 228: backfav
laydraw +£2069
lay2fav +£349
backfav +£341
laydog +£29
layfav -£2058
back2fav -£2198
backdog -£3625
backdraw -£4551
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