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A prize for the best version of the thought, that was going through his head?.....
Idiots I'm dealing with idiots,Jacksons statement was ridiculous what a fcking tool.
Colin Jackson has a point,MJ just didnt get it.
She wanted a medal just not a Gold after the furore following the last Olympics,now if she is allowed to compete in the womans events it shouldnt be a problem........but for some it clearly is.
She wanted a medal just not a Gold after the furore following the last Olympics,now if she is allowed to compete in the womans events it shouldnt be a problem........but for some it clearly is.
Looked at Jackson like he'd just pissed on his kids.
Poor Michael. The legend has earned his fee this Olympiad. Extremely gracious chap.
having to sit there and listen to them two for the last week or so is finally getting to him ,they are terrible and are 1.01 not to be in rio surely
Johnson's a winner so can't comprehend the idea of someone not wanting to win. Personally I think Jackson's right on this occasion. Semenya runs at the front when she's trying!!
Makes sense to me. She poured it on going past those athletes. Deep down she knows she could take all of them, but didn't want all the headlines all over again. Maybe it's enough to her that she herself knows she was the best there.
Doesn't make me feel any better for having lost money backing her though!!!
Doesn't make me feel any better for having lost money backing her though!!!
Aug 11, 2012 -- 8:15PM, chelters16 wrote:
Colin Jackson has a point,MJ just didnt get it.She wanted a medal just not a Gold after the furore following the last Olympics,now if she is allowed to compete in the womans events it shouldnt be a problem........but for some it clearly is.
that is Ball0cks
True Doktor. I couldn't believe how far back she was in comparison to her usual running style. I assumed there must be something wrong with her until she turned it on at the end.
Jackson sounds like he is on the drugs he should have taken when he was running 
Understand Jackson's point, but don't agree with it myself. If she hadn't wanted to win then stay the phook away.
As for what Johnson was thinking....
I think retarded is the word he was looking for.
Loved the way Lewis tried to come to his rescue. Pathetic.
As for what Johnson was thinking....
I think retarded is the word he was looking for.
Loved the way Lewis tried to come to his rescue. Pathetic.
Even if he thought it true he shouldnt have said it,silly man.
Even if he thought it true he shouldnt have said it,silly man.
The level of homophobia in some threads is VERY disappointing ffs grow up.
Staying away wouldn't have been the same at all. She had to test herself and know how much more she could have produced. It's like when you give the computer a 9 goal start in a football game and you end up losing by a goal. You know you would have destroyed it had you faced the computer on 'equal' terms. In this case she didn't want to win, so she gave them all a big headstart so that she could still work out whether or not she was the best.
He's probably gone to Commentary cos of the 400m
Why shouldn't he have said it? What's wrong with somebody saying something controversial??? He's putting the idea out there. Just because Michael Johnson (who's never not tried to win a race in his life) couldn't fathom it, it doesn't mean that everybody thinks the same way.
If the girl DID decide not to win, it's almost certainly down to her experience of the type of bullies that seem to infect this forum. Vile stuff.
Semenya got an absolute sh!t storm after the last time. And yes, I was one of those who was and who remains dubious about whether she should be competing. I don't blame her for wanting to wake up all the same tired rants again.
Jackson is a complete tool as a pundit.Always has been.
Tonight has confirmed it tenfold.
Michael Johnson is as good a pundit as there is on any sport imo.
Tonight has confirmed it tenfold.
Michael Johnson is as good a pundit as there is on any sport imo.
Then why the hell enter in the first place, Lord Bobbin ?
Medal and the sponsorship gravy train continues,Silver/bronze mission accomplished and little/no flak from the bigots.
Exactly and I don't like gay men myself chelters not my bag.
non jigger in an olympic final. You couldnt make it up
Flyingbolt, because otherwise she doesn't really know deep down how well she would have done. She's competed, and perhaps she knows she gave them a few seconds and still took silver. She knows that had she gone closer to the front (as she does in most of her races) she would have beaten the lot.
She now *knows* that she could have won had she wanted to. That's the point. If she had been sitting at home right now, she might have had a little guess, but she wouldn't have *known* how she would really have fared. But now she does.
She now *knows* that she could have won had she wanted to. That's the point. If she had been sitting at home right now, she might have had a little guess, but she wouldn't have *known* how she would really have fared. But now she does.
Maybe you feel threatened mate by gay men me as long as a guy is cool couldnt give a feck whether prefers Arthur/Martha or both,live and let live dude.
Not threatened, chelters just disgusted by blokes who suck other blokes c0cks and stick it in their a$$es just my opinion you are welcome to like that sort of thing.
You obviously are as thick as you are bigoted and shame our country.
chelters
Live abd let live. That applies to people whose views you disagree with. Shrieking that someone shames our country is pathetic just because you disagree with how they see things.
Live abd let live. That applies to people whose views you disagree with. Shrieking that someone shames our country is pathetic just because you disagree with how they see things.
Jackson made a decent point imo. Whilst i wouldn't say she was a deliberate non-trier I think she went into the race scared of winning. She ran negatively and ended up messing it up and coming 2nd. Uncomfortable with the thought of winning rather than not wanting to win. She went through hell previously and by coming 2nd she won't get noticed this time. Having said all that Savinova did run extremely well and for me you could only say it would have been close if Semenya had got her tactics right.
nah Eeternaloptimist, it's pretty fair to say to some bigot that they shame their country. Whether you shriek it or not is irrelevant. I doubt you'd leap to the defence of someone who said black people disgust them so gallantly.
isn't that russian savinova another that served a suspension for a doping violation?
if not why not?
if not why not?
To suggest Samenya didn't want to win gold is absurd. Have people forgotten she'd done all the tests etc and been very publicly cleared to race?
It was all BEHIND her, and any talk of 'he or she' in the event of winning gold would have been dismissed emphatically with hard facts. She simply messed up her tactics.
It was all BEHIND her, and any talk of 'he or she' in the event of winning gold would have been dismissed emphatically with hard facts. She simply messed up her tactics.
'Hard facts'? She's borderline female/male. That's been proven medically, and there remain plenty who think she has an unfair advantage over 'other' women due to her abnormal makeup. At the very least, her winning would have brought up lots of jokes and sneering comments about her sexuality - far more than you see here.
I hate to say it but during the race I was thinking "she doesn't want this" and I think Jackson made a fair point. Would also love to know the names of those who he said were happy just to get a silver.
This thread also shows that there would still have been an incredible load of shyte stirred up about the he/she debate. I can understand why she wouldn't have wanted to go through all that again.
This thread also shows that there would still have been an incredible load of shyte stirred up about the he/she debate. I can understand why she wouldn't have wanted to go through all that again.
I criticised Jackson immediately afterwards (mainly because his punditry is embarrassing) but as I've reflected and understood the point he was trying to make I think it was valid.
I've no idea whether or not she wanted to win, but it's certainly plausible that she feared the consequences of winning the gold. I therefore officially withdraw my withering remarks about Jackson!
I've no idea whether or not she wanted to win, but it's certainly plausible that she feared the consequences of winning the gold. I therefore officially withdraw my withering remarks about Jackson!
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